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[JTBC/Netflix] Sisyphus : The Myth - Cho Seung Woo, Park Shin Hye

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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 12:44 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Iols share bts couch scene ni dulu ye sblm iols post more serious stuff tonight...enjoy!!!
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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 08:16 PM | Show all posts
sementara tunggu epi 13, let's recap what we know so far...
ni iols punya andaian apa yg berlaku kat original timeline..
1991 - 2020 berdasarkan apa yg kita dah tgk setakat epi 12 :
- Tae Sul & Seo Won Ju (Sigma) attend the same school
- little Sigma nak berkawan dgn Tae Sul since Tae Sul yg selamatkan dia dari kena buli
- Sigma dpt tau yg Tae Sul ada plan utk buat time machine yg blh go back to past sahaja
- Sigma nak gunakan Tae Sul to execute his plan
- tapi Tae Sul dah takut nak berkawan dgn Sigma lepas Sigma killed his own family member, tambah2 lagi Tae Sul is a lone ranger & suka buat hal sendiri  
- Sigma start planning to change the world according to his plan that expressed thru his drawings
- but how? dia bukannya siapa2...dahlah datang dari broken family
- so dia start kumpul lottery results utk digunakan once dia balik ke past

2021
this is based on my assumption since belum tunjuk lagi dlm drama...
- Tae Sul berjaya buat uploader...we're talking about the original timeline, so takde lagi perang time ni...dia memang nak buat time machine since he's a kid..
- Sigma antara org pertama yg naik uploader


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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 08:24 PM | Show all posts
Edited by xyla73 at 1-4-2021 07:10 PM

Second timeline & seterusnya (lepas Sigma balik ke tahun 2001)
2001
- Tae Sul accidentally activated the downloader
- future Sigma sampai ke tahun 2001
- according to Mr. Park ada satu advance team yg travel sama2 dgn Sigma (termasuk Mr. Park & Seo Jin)
- masa ni control bureau belum ditubuhkan lagi
- Sigma bwk keratan akhbar keputusan loteri dari tahun 2001 - 2010...dia guna keputusan lottery ni utk buat duit
- 6 Aug 2001, saham KOSDAQ turun sebab konflik kat Middle East...cuma saham berkaitan dgn nuclear power je yg naik (ni ada mention dlm epi 8)
- Sigma start urusan jual beli saham guna 'put option' dgn bantuan fund manager, Kim Dong Hyeon (saham yg ada kaitan dgn kuasa nuklear?)
- masa tragedi 11 Sep 2001, saham2 semua jatuh kecuali saham2 dari 11 sektor (Sigma beli saham2 dari 11 sektor ni?)

2010
- Sigma buat deal dgn Kim Han Yeong (ayah Seo Jin), IT investor dgn gunakan ubat utk rawat ALS yg dia bwk dari future
- Sigma suruh Kim Han Yeong invest kat company Tae Sul (Quantum & Time) so that Tae Sul buat the uploader
- Quantum & Time berjaya disenaraikan kat NASDAQ
- bagi Tae Sul ni pencapaian terbesar dia
- Tae San cuba bg warning kat Tae Sul pasal Sigma tapi Tae Sul anggap Tae San kacau dia di saat dia kat puncak kejayaan
- Sigma nmpk apa yg berlaku antara Tae Sul & Tae San
- Tae San kena tangkap dgn Sigma

2020
since Quantum & Time dah listed kat NASDAQ, Sigma dpt 10 kali ganda keuntungan drpd investment
by this time perancangan dia dari segi kewangan dah berjaya
so tinggal the last piece...get Tae Sul to build the uploader..



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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 08:25 PM | Show all posts
gigih iols list downkan semua tu nak cari kaitan antara kewujudan uploader dgn perang..
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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 08:36 PM | Show all posts
Perancangan Sigma Seterusnya
Sigma sedaya-upaya nak Tae Sul buat gak uploader kat timeline ni tapi kali ni ada halangan daripada Seo Hae yg jugak datang dari future..
so supaya plan dia tak gagal, dia ada plan B..
- buat situasi supaya Tae Sul fell in love dgn Seo Hae so that Seo Hae become his 'weakness'...people always fell in love bila menghadapi krisis...
- Sigma gunakan Control Bureau to create the crisis...kita tgk Control Bureau memang tak abis2 nak tangkap Seo Hae tapi tak pernah berjaya pun...this is intentional supaya Tae Sul & Seo Hae jadi rapat...kalau Seo Hae dah awal2 kena tangkap, Tae Sul tak kisah pun sebab masa ni dia belum kenal rapat dgn Seo Hae...
- kemuncaknya bila Seo Hae tertangkap jugak & kena tahan kat holding cell...this is a good time to catch Seo Hae sebab Sigma dah nmpk that love is in the air at least di pihak Tae Sul...dia boleh confirm dari tindakan Tae Sul masa kat amusement park tu..
- Hyeon Seok (boss control bureau) terima arahan drpd Sigma utk buat semua ni...that's why dia marah sgt bila Hyeon Gi memandai2 nak bunuh Seo Hae...sebab kalau Seo Hae mati Tae Sul takkan buat uploader tu...
- so utk guarantee yg Tae Sul akan buat jugak uploader tu Sigma punya next plan is to make Tae Sul to choose between his 'weakness' (Seo Hae) & the world..kalau dia choose Seo Hae, dia kena buat the uploader...kalau dia choose the world, Sigma akan bunuh Seo Hae & Tae Sul takkan buat the uploader...tapi kita tau perang tu berlaku, nmpk mcm Tae Sul pilih Seo Hae & build the uploader...tapi once dia dah buat uploader tu Tae Sul & Seo Hae dua2 mati..Tae Sul will be no use to Sigma any more...

persoalannya, kenapa Sigma gunakan Seo Hae utk perangkap Tae Sul? kenapa tak gunakan Tae San?
iols rasa sebab Tae San dah menyorok kat dimensi lain, Sigma tak boleh nak cari dia...
lagipun iols rasa plan asal dia nak dptkan blue print utk uploader tu, tapi Tae San dah sorokkan..


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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 11:01 PM | Show all posts
oh no...sigma gunakan tae san jugak supaya tae sul x bunuh dia...
the last scene epi 13 very well acted...
konfrontasi antara seo hae, tae sul, younger sigma & mr. park...
even seo hae is good...
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Post time 31-3-2021 11:39 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ep13 scene dkt swimming pool, teringat pulak drama alice in borderland..
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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 11:44 PM | Show all posts
iols tau sigma tu villain...tapi apa yg dia cakap ada betulnya...
bila dibagi pilihan sama ada nak korbankan sesuatu for the greater cause atau save your loved ones e.g. family, ramai yg akan pilih save the loved ones...tapi selfish ke kita kalau buat pilihan gitu?
lagi satu dialog dia yg betul2 mengena - kalaulah ada at least sorang yg ambik tau pasal dia, xkan jadi semua yg x diingini tu...

tapi memang salute kat kim byung chul playing sigma...
he's perfect sampai x nampak ada org lain blh bawak watak sigma tu...
the creepiness, the coldness, the craziness...he captured it perfectly...
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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 11:46 PM | Show all posts
Edited by xyla73 at 1-4-2021 12:53 PM
neto replied at 31-3-2021 11:39 PM
Ep13 scene dkt swimming pool, teringat pulak drama alice in borderland..

ye..iols pun teringat alice in borderland...very similar setting...
scene ni sebenarnya nak tunjuk yg org2 atasan/high class sedap2 je bersenang-lenang tapi rakyat mati kelaparan...
even the prime minister pun jadi bodoh...mana nak peduli hal rakyat...
so scene tu sindiran tajam sbnrnya...

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 Author| Post time 31-3-2021 11:59 PM | Show all posts
antara highlight dlm epi 13...
kerjasama anak-beranak ni..
they're so cool...
but the ending

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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 07:00 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
I see some comments critisize tae sul...kenapa dia teragak2 nak bunuh the original sigma...
Well...cuba letak diri korang kat tmpt dia...tae san ada dlm genggaman sigma...even jasad je but the moment org2 suruhan sigma pull the trigger, dia akan kehilangan tae san selama2nya...
org2 suruhan sigma pun datang dari future? Are you sure? Not necessarily, just like Hyeon Gi kat control bureau tu, ada possibility among them yg memang dari this timeline...
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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 08:54 AM | Show all posts
epi 13 ni deep & thought provoking...
really my cup of tea...
actually sejak epi minggu lepas lagi iols nak review Sigma punya behaviour...
kenapa dia jadi camtu...

kita tau Sigma memang psiko dari kecik...
at the same time dia jugak mangsa dera...
tapi xde sapa pun yg reach out to him termasuk pihak sekolah...
then kita nampak flashback of younger Sigma...
camna org lain pandang dia...
bila dia beli the necessary tools to commit suicide, nobody stop him...
this is why he hates the society...
agree that this is not an excuse utk dia buat all the despicable things...
tapi kalaulah ada at least sorang yg boleh bercakap dgn dia, mungkin dia tak terdorong utk buat benda2 yg tak sepatutnya...

so this is what the writer trying to convey...
apa yg kita buat even benda2 yg nmpk kecik ada consequences...
kena ada sikap ambik tau even nmpk mcm jaga tepi kain orang...


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Post time 1-4-2021 03:31 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Napa tae sul n seo jin tak jadi kawin.. Ada ke bagi tau dlm mana2 ep.. Ke I yang tak perasan..
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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 03:36 PM | Show all posts
neto replied at 1-4-2021 03:31 PM
Napa tae sul n seo jin tak jadi kawin.. Ada ke bagi tau dlm mana2 ep.. Ke I yang tak perasan..

xtau pun yg diorg hampir2 kahwin kalau Eddie x mention mlm tadi...
cuma ada mention kat epi 1 yg diorg break up sebab Tae Sul berpoya2 dgn idol mana ntah...
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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 03:43 PM | Show all posts
pre-release utk epi 14...naper tae sul glitching?
  

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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 04:16 PM | Show all posts
tapi bila pikir2 balik, kalau Tae Sul & Seo Hae x datang kacau the original Sigma masa dia nak commit suicide tu, adakah masalah akan selesai?
yelah bila original Sigma dah commit suicide, dia punya future version supposedly xde jugaklah kan?
even kalau Tae Sul buat uploader pun,  there will be no war sebab future Sigma xde...
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Post time 1-4-2021 06:21 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
xyla73 replied at 1-4-2021 04:16 PM
tapi bila pikir2 balik, kalau Tae Sul & Seo Hae x datang kacau the original Sigma masa dia nak commi ...

Kalo mcm tu, nanti seo hae pon takde la kan.. I antara lost dgn tak tgk cita ni.. Selalu lepas baca komen uolsss I rasa mcm phm, lepas tu tak phm balik.. Haha

Tapi bulan puasa I selalu ada masa free. I nak ulang tgk dari ep1 balik..
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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 06:38 PM | Show all posts
neto replied at 1-4-2021 06:21 PM
Kalo mcm tu, nanti seo hae pon takde la kan.. I antara lost dgn tak tgk cita ni.. Selalu lepas bac ...

aah gitulah nmpknya...sebab kalau xde war, xde motif utk seo hae balik ke past even kalau ada uploader sekalipun...
tapi tulah kadang2 bila pikir2 balik jadi lain pulak...


iols pun kalau free tgk balik certain2 scenes especially yg ada byk dialog...
sebab kadang2 ada hint kat situ...


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Post time 1-4-2021 08:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ala I tak jumpa link live streaming mlm ni.. Dahla ep mlm ni best...
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 Author| Post time 1-4-2021 09:16 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
neto replied at 1-4-2021 08:43 PM
Ala I tak jumpa link live streaming mlm ni.. Dahla ep mlm ni best...

Sabarlah...dlm pkl 11 nanti adalah subbed version...
I tinggal 15 min je lagi blh tgk...
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