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Mas Selamat Kastari

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Post time 24-4-2008 08:54 AM | Show all posts
Kalau kes MRT Circle line / Nicole Highway colapse ari tu.... pandai plak dorang sack engineer atasan kerana masalah ni....
tapi bila kena kes gini.... pandai plak cari alasan tak moh sack si WKS ni....
eniwei... wa rasa... rasa aje tau....
Gua dah agak dah si WKS ni takkan turun takhta kerana kesemua ofiicer yg on-duty pada hari si selamat ni escape just kena transfer to another division (tanpa diturunkan pangkat)

Originally posted by Browneyes at 24-4-2008 08:46 AM
padan muka wong kan seng.. MP pembangkang  senyum aje dengar si pendek ni explain kat parlimen
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Post time 24-4-2008 08:55 AM | Show all posts
yelah kan.... dah 2 tahun kat dalam.... mesti dah sebei siang-siang...
Originally posted by miezarra_27 at 24-4-2008 08:54 AM
i think... dia dah sebei tempat ni awal2 lagi...
& dia pun dah dapat baca gerak geri jaga2 kat situ...
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Post time 24-4-2008 08:59 AM | Show all posts
credit to: spiderweb6969  MPS Board





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Post time 24-4-2008 09:11 AM | Show all posts

Reply #161 sutera_abadi's post

yep... mesti dia tak kena sack... kan pm dah kata...
tu bukan salah si wks.. tu kesilapan bodoh org lain..!!! :@
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 Author| Post time 25-4-2008 05:42 AM | Show all posts
April 24, 2008         
Why forensics can't tell how Mas Selamat got out

By Chong Chee Kin and Teh Joo Lin


INVESTIGATIONS were unable to pin down exactly how Mas Selamat Kastari left the Whitley Road Detention Centre after he climbed out of the toilet window.

Forensic evidence gathered by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) showed smudges on the water-pipe he could have used to climb down after squeezing through the window, but no conclusive fingerprints.

The packet of toilet rolls outside the toilet was probably used to cushion his fall.

But from then on, there was no 'conclusive evidence' pinpointing the exact route he took to get out, said the Committee of Inquiry (COI).

It suggested that he could have gone 20m from there, scaled the fence, climbed onto the roof of the adjoining enclosed staircase and walkway, and jumped over the converged perimeter fences.

But there was no definite signs to suggest their deduction was right. Nor any to show how else he got out.
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Post time 25-4-2008 10:16 PM | Show all posts

Reply #165 fatz's post sambungan

REPORT ON MAS SELAMAT'S ESCAPE
Forensic evidence can't pinpoint breakout route

Trace evidence at the scene was unclear and timing of forensic checks was not stated

By Teh Joo Lin & Chong Chee Kin



WITHOUT A TRACE: The forensic evidence did not allow the authorities to pick out Mas Selamat's escape route, but it is likely that he went into the forest. -- ST FILE PHOTO

INVESTIGATIONS were unable to pin down exactly how Mas Selamat Kastari left the Whitley Road Detention Centre after he climbed out of the toilet window.

The forensic evidence gathered by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) showed smudges on the water pipe he could have used to climb down after squeezing through the window, but no conclusive fingerprints were found.

The packet of toilet rolls outside the toilet was probably used to cushion his fall.

But from then on, there was no 'conclusive evidence' pinpointing the exact route he took to get out, said the Committee of Inquiry (COI).

It suggested that he could have gone 20m from there, scaled the fence, climbed onto the roof of the adjoining enclosed staircase and walkway and jumped over the converged perimeter fences. But there were no definite signs to suggest that its deduction was right, nor any to show how else he could have got out.

According to forensic experts, shreds of evidence will always be left behind at a crime scene, but their inconclusive nature could be due to a few factors.

United States crime scene expert Gary Rini said in an e-mail that 'endless' possibilities of forensic evidence could remain at a scene, including hair, fibres, fingerprints, DNA and footprints.

But this physical evidence could be lost or destroyed over time, as such evidence is generally 'fragile, some more so than others', he said.

The 33-year crime scene expert suggested that smudges, not conclusive fingerprints, were found on the pipe because the sliding motion of hands would obliterate clear imprints.

The smudges would be useless to forensic experts because they lacked 'rich details for positive comparison'.

Mr Rini was puzzled by the lack of forensic evidence but said that the question was how soon the team had been called in.

This was not stated in the COI's executive summary or in Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng's ministerial speech in Parliament.

The only forensic examination mentioned was that of a CID team, to establish if there had been an insider helping Mas Selamat. The team's work started on the day of the escape.

The fragility of evidence is why a quick response and preservation of the scene are vital, said Mr Rini. The longer the interval, the 'more likely evidence will be lost, contaminated, destroyed or altered'.This is why tents are put up at outdoor crime scenes, so rain or wind cannot remove trace evidence, he said.

A local law enforcement officer said Singapore's weather conditions can adversely affect the quality of evidence obtained. 'Our weather is hot and humid, so it quickens the decomposition rate of blood, skin or biological samples. They will start to decay once there is moisture from rain or dew. Once the samples are decayed, they are of little use even if they are found.'

Depending on the scene, the evidence left behind is not easy to detect. Investigators are likely to be looking for strands of hair, but if Mas Selamat was sporting a short crop, looking for a short strand in a large area would be akin to looking for a needle in a haystack.

The COI said there had also been no evidence of the route Mas Selamat had taken after he got out of the compound. 'Pinpointing a route would have been speculative, given the many possibilities and the lack of evidence on this issue,' it said.

One possibility: that Mas Selamat was heading through the forest, given that his baju kurung was found there.

Mr Glenn Porter, a former federal police forensic officer who now heads the forensic science programme at the University of Western Sydney, said that usually the escape route is 'fairly obvious and discovered shortly after'.

For example, at some scenes, smashed windows or broken doors make these exit points clear. But in a prison-like setting, there could be multiple points to examine before reaching a conclusion. 'Finding or not finding an obvious point of exit would be both realistic outcomes in cases like this,' he said.

joolin@sph.com.sg

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Post time 27-4-2008 07:07 AM | Show all posts
April 27, 2008         
JI DETAINEE'S ESCAPE: EXPERTS' VIEW

Is someone harbouring Mas Selamat?

By Mavis Toh




Do not even think of helping or harbouring Singapore's most wanted man, Mas Selamat Kastari.

Anyone caught aiding him will find himself in serious trouble with the law.

A Ministry of Home Affairs spokesman told The Sunday Times that the person will face imprisonment for life, or a jail term which may extend to 15 years, and will also be liable to a fine.

Aiding the escape of, or harbouring, a prisoner is a breach of Section 130 of the Penal Code.

In Parliament last Monday, Home Affairs Minister Wong Kan Seng gave a detailed account of how Mas Selamat was likely to have escaped from the Whitley Road Detention Centre on Feb 27.

He noted that even as the authorities confirmed that no one helped the Jemaah Islamiah leader break out from the centre, there is a possibility that he could have secured help after his escape.

Said Mr Wong: 'While there is no intelligence to confirm this, the possibility cannot be dismissed and is indeed a scenario pursued by the Internal Security Department (ISD) even now.'

The question that has not ceased being asked: So where is Mas Selamat now?

Terrorism experts The Sunday Times spoke to said that the 47-year-old fugitive could well be getting help now to evade arrest.

'The chances are high that someone is harbouring him,' said Dr Rohan Gunaratna, head of Singapore's International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research.

'That is why the Government must repeatedly announce the severity of harbouring a person of Mas Selamat's notoriety.'

The group most likely to assist him, experts say, are people who are sympathetic towards his situation.

If help is indeed being given, it is also more likely to come from a group than a lone person, they speculated.

Mr Saifullah Khan, research analyst at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS), added that harbouring a man of Mas Selamat's profile is tough, especially in an HDB flat, since neighbours' suspicions would be easily roused.

'In flats, people can see and hear what is going on. But if a group of people living in the same area work together, it'll be easier to harbour such a man,' he said.

If harboured in a secluded spot with low human traffic, Mas Selamat could possibly go undetected for 'an indefinite period', experts said.

Dr John Harrison, an assistant professor at RSIS, said: 'He would keep a low profile, careful not to draw unwanted attention to the flat. Others will then feed him food and information.'

If indeed harboured, the experts speculate that Mas Selamat would lie low till 'things die down' and then make his escape out of the country.

Others, however, believe it is unlikely he is holed up in a flat or building. Rather, they believe he is still roaming Singapore's forested areas.

One survival expert, who wanted to be known only as Mr Tamilselvam, said that someone with Mas Selamat's jungle skills could easily survive in Singapore's forests for up to two years.

Mr Tamilselvam, 57, who used to be an instructor to the Singapore Armed Forces commandos and conducted jungle survival training for soldiers, said that iguanas, squirrels and edible plants are available for food.

Also, items like groundsheets and water bottles, which are sometimes left behind by soldiers during training, could be hoarded by the fugitive and come in handy.

Mas Selamat, who reportedly received military training in Afghanistan, would also be careful to travel only in the day to prevent sustaining injuries at night.

Said Mr Tamilselvam: 'It is most important that he doesn't injure himself. If he needs medication, things could get complicated.'

But Dr Gunaratna thinks it unlikely that Mas Selamat is still hiding in the forests.

Even with his jungle expertise, he thinks that it is hard for Mas Selamat to survive in a jungle for long since he is used to operating in an urban environment.

Meanwhile, the Home Affairs Ministry said that members of Mas Selamat's family have been interviewed by the police and ISD.

It also reiterated that targeted searches based on intelligence and leads in forested areas are still ongoing.

'We will continue our search for Mas Selamat for as long as it takes until he is apprehended,' said a spokesman.

It added that tightened security at coastlines and checkpoints will continue to deny him any chance of fleeing the country.

Experts, too, felt that the fugitive is still somewhere in Singapore.

But on his possible future movements, International Crisis Group analyst Sidney Jones said: 'If he could find a way to get out of Singapore, then Indonesia would probably be his first choice.

'There, he has friends and contact, a network that can hide him, and knowledge of the area.'

mavistoh@sph.com.sg
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Post time 27-4-2008 07:22 AM | Show all posts
SM Goh says it's time to repair reputation after Mas Selamat's escape
By Dominique Loh, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 26 April 2008 1940 hrs

SINGAPORE: Terrorist leader Mas Selamat Kastari's escape was thoroughly debated in Parliament earlier this week and Singaporeans are still talking about it.

While Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong acknowledged the debate's focus for many Singaporeans has shifted from how he escaped to the issue of accountability, he believes it is time to enter a "new phase of reflection and repair" and to move on.

Mr Goh made this point in his speech at his Marine Parade constituency function on Saturday.

He said Singapore will not learn anything from the episode unless the country reflects on what has happened and draw the right lessons.

SM Goh said: "We have to repair our reputation, both as a government as well as a country. Our reputation has suffered as a result of the escape of Mas
Selamat. But let's look for ways to repair that.

"We welcome the adversity in a way, that we are going through, and then rebuild our reputation. One way to do this is to make sure we are seen as being on top of other pressing challenges.

"If we are on top of these challenges, we can overcome problems others find difficulty in doing so, then we repair our reputation." - CNA/vm
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Post time 2-5-2008 11:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by fatz2 at 27-4-2008 07:22 AM
SM Goh says it's time to repair reputation after Mas Selamat's escape


In other words, case closed lah. Don't brood over it. They will capture some other guys related to him somehow and show they are good and worthy. Ok jugak ah tu... to them...

Aku baca pat sg_review pasal no matter wat, ader orang escape 2n d time ke apa... WKS will still be at the post ah... why? sebab once u are considered family member, u will stay there lah.

Oh dorang pun ader letak pasal isteri WKS is LKY nyer niece....

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Post time 2-5-2008 12:43 PM | Show all posts
hmmm.....  No wonder laa..... :re: :re:
Originally posted by herokampong at 2-5-2008 11:50 AM


Oh dorang pun ader letak pasal isteri WKS is LKY nyer niece.......
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Post time 2-5-2008 02:25 PM | Show all posts

Reply #169 herokampong's post

to me personally...dorang sedara ke hapa ke, tak penting...
yg penting...taraf pelajaran dorang mesti tip top....lebih dari org2 biasa..
kalau setakat 'O' dgn 'A' level pun dorang angkut pegang jawatan..takder beza dah dgn negara lain...


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2 bulan lebih dah mas selamat ilang....kalau bermisai....dah bersambung dah dgn janggut..janggut pulak dah sampai ke dada....
singapore mcm ni nyer kecik, mustahil takleh dapat cari....

nak kata dah lepas sempadan...belum semnggu pihak singapore dah komfom yg tak ada tanda2 yg dia dah keluar sempadan...
mcm tau2 jer...and sounded like tak mau biarkan pasukan2 keselamatan jiran2 buat keje2 tak berfaedah...
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Post time 9-5-2008 09:46 AM | Show all posts
May 8, 2008

Man gets 12 weeks for false Mas Selamat call
By Elena Chong
AN UNEMPLOYED man who made a nuisance call that fugitive Mas Selamat Kastari might have committed suicide was jailed for 12 weeks on Thursday. Govindaraju Narayanasamy, 66, admitted making the call to the police emergency line from a public phone at Marsiling Lane on March 30. A Community Court heard that he was drunk when he told police to meet him. Among other things he said: 'I think Mas Selamat has already committed suicide and he could be around this area'. A police officer went to Marsiling Lane and tried to look for Govindaraju to no avail. Later, Govindaraju approached him and said 'Mas Selamat will come and bomb Block 19 Marsiling''. The Jemaah Islamiah chief is still at large after he escaped from the Whitley Road Detention Centre on Feb 27.

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banyak-banyak uncle.. uncle ni create stori.....
sampai ketawa bergegar skrin wa....
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 Author| Post time 26-5-2008 01:40 AM | Show all posts
DPM Wong to give post-escape update
Parliament to hear update on Monday on disciplinary action taken after escape
By Clarissa Oon



There is a proper process for disciplinary action under civil service or Police Force rules and this must take its course,' DPM Wong Kan Seng (above) told Parliament last month. -- ST PHOTO: FRANCIS ONG

WHEN Parliament meets on Monday, Home Affairs and Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng is expected to give an update on disciplinary action in the wake of the Mas Selamat escape.

The House heard on April 21 how a confluence of security breaches and weaknesses at the Whitley Road Detention Centre allowed the terror fugitive to escape.

He had been held there under the Internal Security Act since March 2006.

The breaches included a ventilation window that was not secured properly, and guards who let him out of their line of sight.

After considering Criminal Investigation Department findings which showed no evidence of criminal wrongdoing, the Attorney-General's Chambers decided not to lay criminal charges against any individual.

Instead, it was decided that disciplinary action be taken against the guards, detention centre staff, and any others found culpable.

'There is a proper process for disciplinary action under civil service or Police Force rules and this must take its course,' the Minister told Parliament last month.

Contacted by The Straits Times, the Public Service Commission (PSC) said it has authority over the discipline and dismissal of civil servants, as vested under Article 103 of the Constitution and the Public Service (Disciplinary Proceedings) Regulations.

However certain categories of officers, such as junior police officers, will be disciplined by the Police Force under the Police Force Act.

According to the PSC's 2007 Annual Report, it handled 30 disciplinary cases last year under the Public Service Regulations.

In all disciplinary cases in the civil service, the officer will get an opportunity to be heard first. If he denies the charges, a panel comprising two civil servants and a Justice of Peace will be formed to investigate.

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Post time 26-5-2008 01:46 AM | Show all posts
waduhh dengar2 Mas Selamat dah bolos ke indon...emm dah namanyer  Selamat...susah oii nak tangkap...lagi ramai yg sebut nama dia lagilah dia Selamat....
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Post time 26-5-2008 01:54 AM | Show all posts

Reply #174 soktau2's post

   awu ah... namanya lagi "Selamat"

bijak jua orgnya ah... dpt escape...
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 Author| Post time 26-5-2008 02:00 AM | Show all posts

Reply #175 holmes's post

bijak apa...nyusahkan anak bini jer....
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Post time 26-5-2008 02:05 AM | Show all posts

Reply #176 fatz's post

aah tul gak tu kan... kesian anak bini dia...
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Post time 26-5-2008 05:06 PM | Show all posts
Superintendent of detention centre sacked over Mas Selamat's escape


SINGAPORE: The superintendent of the Whitley Road Detention Centre has been sacked over security lapses that led to the escape of Jemaah Islamiyah detainee Mas Selamat Kastari. His deputy has also been demoted in rank, with a corresponding pay cut.

The two were the most senior officers in charge of the ground management of the detention centre, and were among six Internal Security Department (ISD) officers charged over the escape.

Two other Gurkha officers were also charged and have been demoted after pleading guilty.

Deputy Prime Minister and Home Affairs Minister Wong Kan Seng disclosed the moves when he updated Parliament on the disciplinary action taken after Mas Selamat's escape.

Mas Selamat had escaped from a ventilation window in a toilet at the detention centre on February 27 and remains at large.

No grilles were mounted on the window. Mr Wong said the superintendent should have instructed the renovation contractor to install grilles on the ventilation window.

Instead, the superintendent asked for the handle of the window to be sawn off in the mistaken belief that it was a sufficient security measure. This, Mr Wong said, was a serious error.

The superintendent and his deputy have also been held accountable for the lack of supervision over the subordinate officers implicated in the escape.

Mr Wong said the ISD's command director, whom the superintendent reported to, has also been relieved of his duties on April 24.

Although the command director was neither directly nor indirectly linked to the lapses of specific officers down the line, and he was not at fault over the lapses, Mr Wong said he was formally the apex of the supervisory and management chain of command overseeing the detention centre. - CNA/ac
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 Author| Post time 26-5-2008 05:19 PM | Show all posts

Reply #178 SQ154's post

kesian pegawai2 tu.....
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Post time 26-5-2008 10:41 PM | Show all posts
apalah nasib dia.. periuk nasik dia kena kaco eh.
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