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Post time 26-11-2009 03:46 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Subject: Tan Sri Lim Goh Tong Declared a Muslim


THIS IS  SHOCKING NEWS !!!_,_._,___


(KUANTAN,  Friday) The Syariah Court today has today declared that the
late Tan Sri  Lim Goh Tong was a Muslim more than 10 years ago when he
passed away, in  2007. The Syariah Court also ruled that since no
non-Muslim is allowed  to inherit any part of a Muslim's assets or
wealth, the inheritance of  Lim's property by his non-Muslim children
are invalid and  unlawful.

"Therefore, the assets should be immediately returned  to Tan Sri
Lim's name, and then redistributed to his Muslim heirs (if  any)
according to Syariah law. If he has no Muslim heir, then the assets
shall be given to the Islamic authorities and they can do whatever
they  wish. The non-Muslim children are disinherited." The Syariah
Court  ruled.

Dato' Zakaria Lim Abdullah, 35, the late Tan Sri Lim's  only Muslim
child and the 20th of his 20 offsprings, is now poised to  become the
Chairman of Genting Group, 1 of Southeast Asia's richest  companies
worth RM2 trillion as at press time. (He would have inherited  only
1/20 of Tan Sri Lim's assets if Tan Sri Lim was not declared a
Muslim.) However, he refused to confirm whether he would stop the
gambling business of Genting even though it is haram under Islamic
law.

"Are you saying that our Hadhari government should refuse to  collect
taxes from gambling, alcohol, pork and other haram businesses?"  Dato'
Zakaria replied, perhaps rhetorically.

Dato' Zakaria has  also said that his shall honor his pledge to donate
1/10 of his newly  inherited fortune to Jabatan Agama Islam Pahang and
UMNO in equal share  if he won the case, made 3 days before the
Syariah Court  decision.


"Business Reasons"

"My late father wanted to  keep his conversion secret because he was a
gambling tycoon, and he did  not want to jeopardize his gambling
empire
or make his shareholders  lose confidence in Genting," said Dato'
Zakaria during the hearing in  Syariah Court. The Syariah Court felt
that "this is most likely true  because of the huge business
implications. It is very normal for Chinese  to do this. We can accept
that."

As to the testimonies of Tan Sri  Lim's 19 other offsprings in the
Syariah Court, who unanimously disputed  the alleged conversion, the
Syariah Court said, "Even though it is 19 to  1, but because the
non-Muslim witnesses refused to swear on the Qur'an  before they
testified in court, we could not consider their testimonies.  In any
event, even if they did swear on the Qur'an, the non-Muslims  would
still carry less weight when compared to the testimony of 2 Muslim
men. It is not about the number, it is about quality of the
witnesses."

The other witness supporting Dato' Zakaria's claim to  have witnessed
Tan Sri Lim's conversion is Ustaz Abdul Rahman Ganinah  Abdullah, 23
year old. The Ustaz would have been only 13 year old at  that time of
the conversion, but the Syariah Court said that,"Being a  righteous,
God-fearing Muslim, we have no reason to suspect that the  Ustaz told
any lie. In any event, he has reached the age of puberty at  the time
(of the conversion) so he was qualified to witness the  conversion."


"Answer To God" It Depends

The Syariah  Court has also ruled that the overwhelming evidence of
Tan Sri Lim  drinking alcohol, praying to pagan idols, celebrating
pagan religious  festivals, eating pork and gambling in his own
Genting Casino and  generally behaving like a non-Muslim all his life
until his death was  irrelevant. "Once you have converted, you are a
Muslim till you die, no  matter what you did before your death. You
will answer to God for all  your sins."

However, on the same kind of "answer to God" argument  made by the
non-Muslim children that:"By the same logic, the Deceased  himself
should answer to God for concealing his alleged 'conversion'  from his
family and resulting in him not being buried as a Muslim and  his
assets distributed among his non-Muslim children; it's not up to the
Islamic Authority to insist on his assets being inherited under
Islamic  law if he, KNOWING THAT HIS ASSETS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED LIKE
AN INFIDEL  (AND HE MIGHT BURN IN HELL), still didn't want to tell his
family to  bury him as a Muslim and distribute his assets like a
Muslim."

The Syariah Court said "you cannot say he must answer to  God for
everything. Sometimes he also has to answer to us, the Islamic
Authority and Syariah Court. If we say he has to answer to us, then he
has to. When it comes to God's law, logic has nothing to do with it.
Why  is it so difficult to understand?"


"New Conversion Policy" vs  New Economic Policy

The case to declare one of the richest  Chinese in the world (at his
death) as a Muslim was started 2 years ago  (8 years after his death),
1 month after another non-Muslim Malaysian  tycoon's Muslim son was
able to exclusively inherit his father's global  business empire worth
RM80 billion at that time by proving in Syariah  Court that his father
had "converted in secret," resulting in his mother  and all 9 other
siblings losing the right to inherit any part of the  tycoon's wealth,
leaving him the sole heir to the huge  fortune.

There are currently at least 200 more cases of the same  nature
pending before the Syariah Courts nationwide involving deceased
non-Muslims who were wealthy during their lifetime and left behind a
huge personal fortune. Rough estimate suggests that 50% of them were
started by 1 of the
Muslim children of the deceased (99% of them  newly converted as
Muslims), and the rest by the Islamic Authorities  seeking to
disinherit all non-Muslim children.

If all of the  cases succeed, it is estimated that the ratio of equity
held by Muslims  in Malaysia would jump from the meagre 19% as at 1
January 2018 to 76%,  a whopping
3-fold increase.

The Perak Mufti, who applauded the  Syariah Court's ruling, said that
this wave of after-death declarations  of conversions is the new
approach taken by the Islamic Authority to  speed up the
Islamicization of Malaysia, butis also designed to achieve  the
government's goal to redistribute wealth among the races which the
government could no longer do (and failed repeatedly to do) under the
now abolished National Economic Policy

"By creating real economic  incentives for the dhimmis to become a
real citizen of the Islamic  state, we expect more of them to embrace
the true path, and this will  mean that we no longer have to rely on
the NEP to achieve such noble  socio-economic goals of the government.
Besides, this is more effective  because to take money away from
living people will create a lot of  noise, but a dead person will not
make any noise, right?"  He said.

However, it is not clear whether the non-Muslim  children would still
be able to keep their inheritance if they convert  to Islam
immediately. The Mufti of Perak, when consulted on this issue,  said,

"If that could bring them to Islam, then it would be good,  so the
Syariah Court should allow that. But then it might be unfair to  those
children who converted into Islam earlier perhaps we can still  allow
them to inherit only 30% of what an "early bird" Muslim heir would
have been able to get, to provide some "early bird bonus incentives"
for  them to convert earlier. When we are dealing with Chinese, such
bonus  incentives are very important, if you know what I mean. Anyway,
we'll  think about this in the next National Fatwa Council meeting.
But rest  assured that we shall continue to our struggle until the
Kingdom comes  (literally)."

Chinese Beginning to Be Concerned

The  Chinese community has now taken this matter very seriously and
are  brainstorming on the options to overcome this problem. They have
also  called for an end to the practice of declaring a person's status
as a  Muslim after his or her death, a radical change from their usual
attitude to shy away from controversial political and religious
issues.  Analysts believe that this is because this is threatening
their economic  interests.

Supporters of the now semi-defunct Malaysian Chinese  Association,
Gerakan and Malaysian Indian Congress, still part of the  ruling
Barisan Nasional coalition, have called on the top BN leadership  to
put forward a plan to resolve such controversial and provocative
religious issues once and for all and in a manner which is fair to the
non-Muslims. An MCA leader who declined to be named told our
reporter:

"We fear a backlash. Most NGO and opposition leaders  have called on
the non-Muslims to boycott BN if no fair solution is put  forward
before the upcoming general election. These issues have been  around
since at least the Moorthy controversy in 2005 but still remained
unresolved. The are now affecting the basic security and fundamental
well-being of the non-Muslims."

This is a very serious issue for  all non-muslim Malaysians to think
over since several recent cases have  been unjust and unfair, and the
basic constitutional RIGHTS been taken  away from them. It's no longer
a safe country to  live.



p/s : leh caye ke nie, cam x caye jee...apa komen korang??? sorrylah mod klu dah ada ttg brita nie delete je k...
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Post time 26-11-2009 03:53 PM | Show all posts
alhamdulillah... org islam dah jadi tokey judi terbesar di malaysia nih... bersyukur goh tong dah jadi melayu malaysia...
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Post time 26-11-2009 03:58 PM | Show all posts
maafkanlah keterujaan dia kerana terlalu gopoh utk menyebarkan tentang pengislaman lim goh tong
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amboi!!!!...kutuk kaw-kaw nampak, klu dah ade britau je laaa...toksah dok maki-maki. Sbb dah selak x jumpa, ngoi tul lah u all nie...

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p/s: kecewa ngan sikap forummer yg tau kutuk org je.
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Ummi senah aka selma, HELP!!!! please carutkan!!! we need uolsss!!!
Fantasia Post at 26-11-2009 15:56


Tak ada maknanya.  Baru tadi i merayau kat board Gosip, umi senah pun kena carut, maki hamun segala sbb bukak topic tak search dulu. Then umi senah bela diri sendiri dengan berkata dia bukan minah felda yg banyak masa nak search segala, umi senah kata dia sgt berkejaya hoccay. Camtu lah lebih kurang.
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Mana ummi senah ni, tak sampai lagi.
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