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[Tempatan] Perjuangan Utk Negara Sekular Tidak Terhenti Dgn Kematian Karpal Singh

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Post time 21-4-2014 12:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts |Read mode
Fight for secular state does not end with Karpal

APRIL 20 — “Karpal is gone,” went an email to The Malay Mail Online’s reporters in the early morning of Thursday. It was the first thing I read when I woke up.

It was such devastating news that I was left speechless. I tried posting on social media to express my feelings about losing this indomitable fighter, but I kept deleting what I had written.

It was hard to spell out the first thing I had on my mind without sounding bad: that I was sure there would be people cheering about the death of Karpal Singh.

The DAP chairman had been undeservedly branded as “anti-Islam” for opposing the establishment of an Islamic state, most famously saying: “An Islamic state over my dead body.”

Hearing stories about him, including from his biographer Tim Donoghue, he sounded like he would probably laugh such accusations off. Karpal would insist that he and DAP were only trying to uphold the Constitution.

“The Federal Constitution provides for a secular state. So you cannot have in a secular state an Islamic law in the form of hudud.

“In a secular state, we cannot have laws other than secular laws,” the Bukit Gelugor MP said in an interview with DAP’s Roketkini just over a month ago.

Karpal’s concern was justified. The past few weeks have been trying for proponents of Malaysia as a secular state.

Little by little, we have seen Islamists extrapolating the concept of Islam as the religion of the federation to instead mean that Malaysia is an Islamic state.

It was as if Malaysia was born an Islamic state and the secularists were trying to rewrite history, instead of the other way round.

Going by recent events, our beloved country might indeed be inching closer to an Islamic state if left unchecked. For an ethnically, culturally and religiously diverse nation like ours, that would be no less than alarming.

Last week, we witnessed the hold Shariah courts have over our civil courts, when police decided not to act against a Muslim convert who abducted his child citing conflicting orders between the two courts.

This is despite the civil court order overriding the Shariah court’s, and despite a blatant offence being committed that should have at least warranted an investigation.

We should also note that this was only the most recent of such cases, and certainly will not be the last, of a Muslim convert spouse who converted his kids without the consent of his partner, and then decided to fight for custody using the Shariah court.

We should also note that none of these clashes between the two systems would have happened if the cases had been settled in civil courts, where both Muslims and non-Muslims can be heard, instead of just one of them in Shariah courts.

However in the aftermath, we have seen Muslim groups such as the Malaysian Muslim Lawyers Association (MMLA), supported by Perak mufti Harussani Zakaria and retired Court of Appeals judge Mohd Noor Abdullah, suggesting that both Muslims and non-Muslims should instead just appear in Shariah courts in these sorts of cases.

This is despite lawyers, even Shariah lawyers, admitting that Shariah courts will inadvertently be biased towards the Muslim parent in custody cases, as they will move to ensure the sanctity of the child’s Islamic faith.

In the meantime, we have also seen Islamist party PAS’ insistence at tabling a private member’s Bill in Parliament this year to pave the way towards implementing the controversial Islamic penal code of hudud in Kelantan.

The selling point of hudud by its proponents thus far had been that Islamic laws such as hudud will only affect Muslims, therefore should not be feared by non-Muslims.

How true is that, when the law can extend to non-Muslims if they are involved in aiding or abetting an offence committed by a Muslim?

In a move that mirrored MMLA’s, Kelantan Deputy Mentri Besar Datuk Mohd Amar Nik Abdullah had even offered non-Muslims to be judged by the Islamic penal code, where physical punishments can be horrific, including amputation and stoning to death.

This, according to Mohd Amar, is freedom of choice.

Lucky for the non-Muslims then since they can afford to choose between civil and hudud punishments. How about the Muslims, who have no say at all since birth?

Another selling point would be that the guilty will have nothing to fear from hudud. This is a lousy argument, as it assumes that hudud’s implementation will be perfect and innocents will never get punished.

How confident can we be when even Shariah laws can be botched in such amazingly astounding ways?

Even when there is political will to reform the implementation of Islamic laws in the country, there will still be a huge stumbling block in the form of the Malay-Muslim-Monarchy juggernaut.

Former law minister Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz had in 2009 proposed changes to legislation, only to have the Conference of Rulers shelving them just hours before they were scheduled to be tabled in Parliament.

Critics of Islamic laws and an Islamic state will not have an easy path, as it will be too easy for those who run out of arguments and defence to just label their detractors “anti-Islam”, prompting heavy-handed responses from the authorities.

Karpal has shown that even against insurmountable odds, one can still be single-minded in pushing for justice, liberty and equality. He might be gone, but his name and legacy will continue to inspire us all.

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Post time 21-4-2014 12:45 PM | Show all posts
mmg tidak akan terhenti
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:10 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Off course lah!
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:18 PM | Show all posts
bila diaorg, hak kami untuk bersuara, tak takut utk menyatakan apa yg benar

tetapi bila org mati, oh!!!! tak baik la kritik org yg dah mati, jagalah hati keluarga simati, kritik org mati tu la yg nampak Islam ni tak baik

KEADILAN taik kucing diaorg la

Malaysia negara sekular? tetapi agama rasmi adalah Islam. sejak bila negara sekular ada agama rasmi?
Malaysia negara sekular? kenapa ada undang2 syariah?
Malaysia negara sekular? kenapa hanya Islam sahaja diberikan prioriti di Malaysia?

Singapura adalah contoh negara sekular, Malaysia bukan negara sekular
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:22 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
To the hell he go...
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:22 PM | Show all posts
Bukan Malaysia ni mmg dah negara sekular ke?

Jabatan Agama Islam hanya untuk hal ehwal Islam tmasuk undang2 syariah utk orang Islam sahaja

Undang2 tertinggi adalah Perlembagaan Persekutuan sahaja...mn2 undang2 negeri tmasuk syariah yg btentangan ngn perlembagaan tbatal...itu yg ak faham
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:35 PM | Show all posts
cmf_shalom posted on 21-4-2014 01:22 PM
Bukan Malaysia ni mmg dah negara sekular ke?

Jabatan Agama Islam hanya untuk hal ehwal Islam tmas ...

selagi agama rasmi Malaysia, Islam selagi itulah Malaysia bukannya sekular
selagi undang2 Islam tidak diletakkan tinggi dr Perlembagaan selagi itulah juga tidak boleh dikatakan Malaysia negara Islam
Brunei adalah contoh negara Islam dan Singapura adalah contoh negara sekular
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:37 PM | Show all posts
Totok CI pun togak btg masing2 utk sekular...bab hukum ping point pas...sumber rujukkan sket2 utusex...bangsa islam agama melayu kekdah nyo...
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Post time 21-4-2014 01:57 PM | Show all posts
terkabul permintaan karpal utk jadi Singh is King...kematiannya ala ala sultan mati

terkedu juga bila tgk upacara tu ada unsur2 buddhism...
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Post time 21-4-2014 02:03 PM | Show all posts
penyembah mat salleh negara konkesen nan maju salji makji berkata negara sekular mampu membawa perubahan kemajuan bangsa....

Mamat bin tong @ Piece Ranvaldi
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Selangor
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Post time 21-4-2014 02:07 PM | Show all posts
yg dh mati biar la mati. ekekeke
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Post time 21-4-2014 02:27 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 21-4-2014 02:30 PM | Show all posts
satu karpal mati, akan lahir 1000 karpal lagi
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Post time 21-4-2014 02:43 PM | Show all posts
penyo posted on 21-4-2014 02:30 PM
satu karpal mati, akan lahir 1000 karpal lagi



dah lama lahir..ko je tak pasan kut


tiger show, tiger balm, tiger beer, tiger senaman

Ohhh lupa.. sleeping tiger and the hidden dragon
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Post time 21-4-2014 03:44 PM | Show all posts
Ramkarpal to contest father's seat


  
Karpal Singh's death left a huge void, in both the courts of Malaysia and its political arena. But the Tiger of Jelutong had in mind who should succeed him in his parliamentary seat of Bukit Gelugor...
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Post time 21-4-2014 03:45 PM | Show all posts
kata2 hikmah karpal singh semasa hidup....."Anwar Ibrahim harus bertaubat!"
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Post time 21-4-2014 03:54 PM | Show all posts
negara sekular 'diperjuang' hanya oleh
minoriti termasuk DAP,
namun bunyinya bising umpama tong kosong

hakikatnya,
perjuangan mutlak tentang halatuju sebenar
negara bangsa malaysia masih terletak
di tangan majoriti melayu muslim
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Post time 21-4-2014 03:57 PM | Show all posts
sepatutnya DAP jangan risau, selagi UMNO wujud selagi itulah Malaysia tak akan laksanakan hudud
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Post time 21-4-2014 04:01 PM | Show all posts
DTECCONAN posted on 21-4-2014 03:57 PM
sepatutnya DAP jangan risau, selagi UMNO wujud selagi itulah Malaysia tak akan laksanakan hudud

hudud hanya boleh terlaksana di malaysia
apabila semua ahli parlimen beragama islam berkerjasama
tanpa mengira latar politik

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