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Sistem Kasta (merged: Sinbad^boy)

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Post time 22-6-2004 12:58 PM | Show all posts
by H猷L鰃頧

sebelum HLX minta ampun maaf  & bukan berniat mengeji sesuatu bangsa

bagaimanapula dengan definasi 'pariah' & dimanakah letaknya mereka ?


Setakat yg saya tahu, perkataan "Pariah" tak wujud mana2 dlm text hindusm. Yg ada adalah Candala yg bermakna "Tak berguna".
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Post time 22-6-2004 01:45 PM | Show all posts
Selepas penjelasan Sephiroth, saya sudah semakin faham akan sistem kasta yg rupa2nya disalahgunakan. Seseorang yg dilahirkan dalam golongan Brahmin yg tak berkebolehan; iaitu tiada ciri2 Brahmin haruslah turun ke status Ksyatria dan seterusnya supaya cirinya betul pada tempat bersama memajukan bangsa & negara. Macam anak seorang lawyer tak pandai sangat tapi nak jadi dan dijadikan lawyer juga. Maka hancurlah keadilan masyarakat dan sekiranya semua berbuat begitu, jatuhlah negara & bangsa.

If the cause of China's downfall is corruption & greed, then the cause of India's downfall is corruption & ego.
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Post time 22-6-2004 02:42 PM | Show all posts
by Adm_Cheng_Ho

Selepas penjelasan Sephiroth, saya sudah semakin faham akan sistem kasta yg rupa2nya disalahgunakan. Seseorang yg dilahirkan dalam golongan Brahmin yg tak berkebolehan; iaitu tiada ciri2 Brahmin haruslah turun ke status Ksyatria dan seterusnya supaya cirinya betul pada tempat bersama memajukan bangsa & negara. Macam anak seorang lawyer tak pandai sangat tapi nak jadi dan dijadikan lawyer juga. Maka hancurlah keadilan masyarakat dan sekiranya semua berbuat begitu, jatuhlah negara & bangsa.

Hanya ada 4 Kasta sahaja mengikut kebolehan seseorang dan itu pun kerana manusia berbeza dr sifat dan keinginan.

Seorang manusia yg menpunyai keinginan utk mencari duit (walaupun dilahirkan dr golongan Brahmin) harus dibenarkan berbuat demikian kerana itu sifat dia. Kalau dia dipaksa masuk ke dlm kuil utk menbuat kerja2 kuil sahaja, adakalanya sifat ingin cari duit itu akan menjadi sifat tamak sampai menyusahkan orang lain. Ini satu contoh sahaja.

If the cause of China's downfall is corruption & greed, then the cause of India's downfall is corruption & ego.

Unfortunately for Indian, they are a bit egoistic in nature and sometimes, they follow something blindly without thinking. :ah: So stupidity is one of their problems as well.
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Post time 23-6-2004 08:04 AM | Show all posts
Sephiroth,

What is the difference between "KASTA" and "JATI"
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Post time 26-6-2004 06:02 AM | Show all posts
Sephiroth just nak inform u, in islam takde system kasta :solute:

but masyarakat islam kat india n pakistan still amalkan some caste system, i rasa it came because of budaya... setahu I kat malaysia still mereka pentingkan kasta, especially bg ceylonis (sorry tak reti eja) and also brahmin... its people attitute yg salah bukan the system, the system does not look down on the lower caste kan? :stp:
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Post time 26-6-2004 08:58 AM | Show all posts
by smilesenyum

What is the difference between "KASTA" and "JATI"

Dua2nya sama juga, hanya "JADI" (DI bukan TI) adalah perkataan dlm Tamil. Di India, terhadap dua bahasa utama - Hindi dan Tamil. Tak tahu apa Kasta dlm Hindi tetapi dlm Tamil, ianya bermakna "Jadi".
Biasanya boleh dengar dlm filem Tamil.


by Adam_sofea

Sephiroth just nak inform u, in islam takde system kasta  

Setiap masyarakat di dunia ada pembahagian masyarakat mengikut kemampuan mereka. Hanya di India, ia diperbesar2kan sampai jadi Kasta.

but masyarakat islam kat india n pakistan still amalkan some caste system, i rasa it came because of budaya... setahu I kat malaysia still mereka pentingkan kasta, especially bg ceylonis (sorry tak reti eja) and also brahmin... its people attitute yg salah bukan the system, the system does not look down on the lower caste kan?  

Yup ...

I have been to the Library the last few days and have been reading through some books. I have some interesting historical details about Kasta and how it all begin. I will put it in detail next week.

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Post time 26-6-2004 09:47 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 26-6-2004 08:58 AM:
by smilesenyum

What is the difference between "KASTA" and "JATI"

Dua2nya sama juga, hanya "JADI" (DI bukan TI) adalah perkataan dlm Tamil. Di India, ter ...


Thank you Sephiroth for the explanation..Sekarang aku confuse..sebab selama ini aku ingatkan Jadi merujuk pada Chettiar, Kaunder, Thevar, Padaiyachi,  dan sebagainya...setakat yang aku tahu, ini bukan kasta sebab kasta merujuk yang empat (seperti explanation awal dalam topik ini).
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Post time 26-6-2004 09:53 AM | Show all posts
by smilesenyum

Thank you Sephiroth for the explanation..Sekarang aku confuse..sebab selama ini aku ingatkan Jadi merujuk pada Chettiar, Kaunder, Thevar, Padaiyachi,  dan sebagainya...setakat yang aku tahu, ini bukan kasta sebab kasta merujuk yang empat (seperti explanation awal dalam topik ini).  

Ada juga kebenaran terhadap apa yg anda perkatakan itu. Hindus sekarang suka menilai sesuatu kasta dgn mengikut kelahiran dan bukannya minat seseorang terhadap suatu perkerjaan.
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Post time 2-9-2004 06:07 PM | Show all posts
Betul ke kasta DOW tu kasta paling rendah..keje diorang cuma bakar mayat jer?
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Post time 3-9-2004 07:31 AM | Show all posts
by AILIOMLELE

Betul ke kasta DOW tu kasta paling rendah..keje diorang cuma bakar mayat jer?

Tak pernah dengar tentang itu.
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Post time 15-9-2004 03:56 AM | Show all posts
KASTA???KENAPA EH??BOLEH JELASKAN?
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Post time 15-9-2004 07:46 AM | Show all posts
Kalau niat itu utk mencari kesalahan orang lain, tak guna jawab pertanyaan dr orang2 macam itu. ;)

Bukannya pandai memahami apa yg ditulis ... kalau tak suka dgn apa yg diberitahu, diulang balik pertanyaan yg sama. Buang masa dan karan shj layan. ;)
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Post time 15-9-2004 08:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 15-9-2004 07:46 AM:
Kalau niat itu utk mencari kesalahan orang lain, tak guna jawab pertanyaan dr orang2 macam itu. ;)

Bukannya pandai memahami apa yg ditulis ... kalau tak suka dgn apa yg diberitahu, diulang balik ...



Ok lah Sephiroth,kita sambung lain masa ok:ah:
Bukan niat saya untuk memperkecilkan ugama lain,kita sambung lain masa ok,
Besok saya akan berlepas ke Singapura,Indonesia dan Australlia untuk mengumpul dana dan project untuk rumah anak anak cacat.Jumpa lagi dalam masa 20 hari.:hatdown:
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Post time 16-9-2004 08:54 AM | Show all posts
Tak payah nak sambung2 ... masa saya tak banyak dan nampaknya masa anda pun tak banyak. Jadi tak perlu buang masa, kan?
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Post time 25-9-2004 07:18 PM | Show all posts

Seph..

i have read somewhere that this cast system was brougt topractice by this so CALLED ARYAN people to preserve the power and strengthening their position.

It's  not actually there  and what is your comment about that  since you that Buddha ( siddahrata Gautama and JAINISM - had both foundate a new teachings and religion i think as a negative  were the extension of thsi cast system .. they disagree , right ?


and what is KUMBAl MALA? a type of ocasion yg dipractice di tepi sungai every once in 12 month?

TQ
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Post time 27-9-2004 08:19 AM | Show all posts
by mbhcsf

i have read somewhere that this cast system was brougt topractice by this so CALLED ARYAN people to preserve the power and strengthening their position.

Yeah ... true. Aryan people entered India around 100,000 years ago, that time, there already existed people with darker skin in southern parts of India. Aryans who worshipped Indra as the main god in a huge patheon of Gods conquered the Southern Indian easily - by culture, warfare and technology. After that, Caste System was created to differentiate between original Aryan and Southern Indians.

It's  not actually there  and what is your comment about that  since you that Buddha ( siddahrata Gautama and JAINISM - had both foundate a new teachings and religion i think as a negative  were the extension of thsi cast system .. they disagree , right ?

You have not been reading Bhavagad Gita, are you? It's in the other thread. Go and read it also.

Bhavagad Gita do not support Caste System, and there is a LOT of stories been told about the Caste System's problems in society.

The fight against Caste System did not start because Buddha or Jainism only, it have it's roots in Bhavagad Gita also. :no:

and what is KUMBAl MALA? a type of ocasion yg dipractice di tepi sungai every once in 12 month?

I'm not familiar with that word or practise.
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Post time 9-10-2004 09:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 16-9-2004 08:54 AM:
Tak payah nak sambung2 ... masa saya tak banyak dan nampaknya masa anda pun tak banyak. Jadi tak perlu buang masa, kan?



saya berminat untuk tahu sistem kasta??
boleh kita bincang?Saya ada banyak masa sekarang?
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Post time 10-10-2004 12:44 PM | Show all posts
Adakah empat golongan ini, 1. Brahmin 2. Kyastria  3. Golongan petani 4. Golongan Saudagar adalah berdasarkan sistem Varna?
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Post time 11-10-2004 08:37 AM | Show all posts
by fleurzsa

Adakah empat golongan ini, 1. Brahmin 2. Kyastria  3. Golongan petani 4. Golongan Saudagar adalah berdasarkan sistem Varna?

http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/contentsbeach8.html

http://www.swaveda.com/backgroun ... Hinduism&page=2

You may want to read this sites.
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Post time 11-10-2004 09:19 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 11-10-2004 08:37 AM:
by fleurzsa
Adakah empat golongan ini, 1. Brahmin 2. Kyastria  3. Golongan petani 4. Golongan Saudagar adalah berdasarkan sistem Varna?
[url]http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip ...


Thanks... I dah skip n scan website tu..

Betul la tanggapan I tu...
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