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Post time 22-11-2006 02:17 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by tot31 at 21-11-2006 07:54 AM
Playstation 3 vs XBOX 360 : A Game Developer's Perspective

As long as consoles have existed, discussions, debates, arguments, fights, and all out WARS have taken place over who makes the best video game units. Growing up, I was always a Nintendo fan boy; I didn't want to hear anything about Sega Genesis... In my mind, Nintendo had Mario, Zelda, and other great first-party titles. Sega had Sonic, and red blood.

Things are slightly more complicated these days however. Console makers are taking different approaches to designing their products; some go for hardcore processing power, others focus more on online gaming. We already have a heated debate going on in our forum about which console is better, PS3 or XBOX 360.

I thought it would be a good idea to ask my friend, who is a lead programmer for a large gaming company that produces games for both PS3 and XBOX 360. He has also worked on PS2, XBOX 1, and PC games in the past 6-or-so years. Obviously, considering his position working with both consoles and both Sony and Microsoft, he doesn't want to step on any toes, so wishes to remain anonymous at this time. Here are his thoughts on the subject:
PS3 vs. XBOX 360

Being a video game developer (I develop for both, Playstation 3 and XBOX 360) people ask me almost daily which platform I think is better. These are my personal feelings, in no way does this reflect my employer.

Short answer: XBOX 360.

Long answer: Price, performance, visual quality, game selection and online support. I think the XBOX 360 wins in every category.

Price: This is obvious; the XBOX 360 core is only $299. The PS3 is around $499 for the 20GB version. It comes with a hard drive, but you don抰 need a hard drive to enjoy a lot of great games on the 360 so I think it抯 fair to compare both core systems.

Performance: On paper, the PS3 is more powerful. In reality, it抯 quite inferior to the 360. Without getting into too many details, the three general-purpose CPU抯 the xbox360 has are currently FAR easier to take advantage of than the SPU抯 on the PS3. I suspect a few years down the road some high budget, first party PS3 exclusive titles will come out that really take advantage of the SPU抯 and do things the XBOX 360 can抰, but I don抰 think the console is worth buying based on this speculation (for some it will be though, we'll have to wait and see how these games turn out).

Graphics: The XBOX 360 is a clear winner. The GPU is more powerful. It has more powerful fillrate, and far more pixel and vertex processing horsepower. Part of the reason is their choice of memory, and architecture of pixel and vertex procesing. I can抰 get into details but the same vertex shader will run much slower on the PS3 than the XBOX 360. The 360 also has a clever new way rendering high definition anti aliased back buffers. To accomplish the same effect on PS3 is prohibitively expensive. For this reason I think many games will have no choice but to run in non-HD resolutions on the PS3 version, use a lower quality anti aliasing technique, or do back buffer upscaling. The end result in all cases is going to be noticeably worse image quality.

Game Selection: The XBOX 360 has a huge head start here. 1 year is an eternity in gaming. Almost all multi-platform developers have made the XBOX 360 their primary platform due to timing of release-to-market, this means the games will look and perform better on the 360. The PS3 versions will be ports of the 360 versions. (The opposite was true for XBOX 1 vs. PS2). The XBOX 360 is also far faster to develop for due to better development tools (massively popular Visual Studio .NET vs. proprietary, buggy PS3 compiler and debugger), better documentation, and easier architecture (3 general purpose CPU抯 vs. 8 specialized processors that require DMA). Timing has also caused all next-gen middleware developers to make XBOX 360 their primary platform, and they will 慳dd ps3 support
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Post time 22-11-2006 02:19 PM | Show all posts
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas review
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/ ... ew.html?sid=6162184
Nampaknya,sejak ps3 launch,banyak pula game x360 yg best....
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Post time 22-11-2006 03:34 PM | Show all posts
tuler sbb nyer aku nak sambar x360 dulu..ps3 tak byk game lagi...member aku baru call aku tadik..dier dpt info dari dlm Sony (member dier ada kerja ngan Sony M'sia), board PS3 yg ada sekarang ada masalah, tunggu bln March board PS3 baru. Aku dah agak dah mesti ada bug nyer....kalau rumours nie betul sian lar org yg beli awal2, dah lah kena cekik darah mahal, board ada problem lak tu.
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Post time 22-11-2006 04:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by tot31 at 22-11-2006 03:34 PM
tuler sbb nyer aku nak sambar x360 dulu..ps3 tak byk game lagi...member aku baru call aku tadik..dier dpt info dari dlm Sony (member dier ada kerja ngan Sony M'sia), board PS3 yg ada sekarang ada m ...


wah.. biar benar..: malang sungguh yang beli awal2..tu..

rules of a thumb..wait for 2-3 years before buying...
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Post time 22-11-2006 04:40 PM | Show all posts
Member aku cakap lagik Sony tak nak kecoh2 sebab takut kena saman dan jualan merosot. Aku pun tak pasti nak sahkan berita nie, nama pun khabar angin. Tapi kalau tak de angin masakan pokok begoyang kecuali digoncang...muahahahhahahha
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Post time 22-11-2006 05:45 PM | Show all posts

Reply #125 tot31's post

Tanya sama pokok apa sebab goyang
nanti jawab pokok tot31 yg goyang
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Post time 23-11-2006 08:13 AM | Show all posts
Waa,,dasat ler ko leh cakap ngan pokok....
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Post time 23-11-2006 06:50 PM | Show all posts

PS3 charge cable vs XBOX 360 charge cable

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Post time 24-11-2006 08:35 AM | Show all posts
Aku confirm minggu depan sambar satu X360.
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Post time 24-11-2006 08:54 AM | Show all posts
Caya la tot...!!
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Post time 24-11-2006 02:18 PM | Show all posts
nk beli yg x modified ke?
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Post time 24-11-2006 02:46 PM | Show all posts
Mlm nie gi bayar deposit X360...huhuu dapat harge baik..2nd hand baru pakai seminggu lebih dapat 3 game ori (Gear Of War, Dead Or Alive 4 ngan Ridge Racer 6) + 1 exta wireles controller dan unmodded dgn harge RM1500. Minggu depan dapat gaji bayor full.

Aku dah tanyer kat kedai,
Unmodded XBox360 Premium Pack = RM1400
Wireless Controller = RM150
1 Ori Game = RM150 - Rm160

Kire untung gak ler, sebab aku memang budget RM1500 (Unmodded XBox360 Premium Pack + Gear Of War) kalau beli kat kedai.

Aku nak mod sendiri...maklum ler aku suka DIY.
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Post time 24-11-2006 03:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by tot31 at 24/11/06 14:46
Mlm nie gi bayar deposit X360...huhuu dapat harge baik..2nd hand baru pakai seminggu lebih dapat 3 game ori (Gear Of War, Dead Or Alive 4 ngan Ridge Racer 6) + 1 exta wireles controller dan unmodde ...

fuuuuyoooooooo........dah masyukkkkk tu
DIY dah biasa buat oleh incik tot. rezeki tot dpt 3 game
bdk mana jual.
leh la pinjam seminggu 360.
huhuhuhu
:nerd:
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Post time 24-11-2006 03:48 PM | Show all posts
ada ler...dobush...muahahha nak pinjam seminggu...huhuu demam pakcik seminggu...alah ko dtg jer kat umah den. tak pun ko sambar satu gak..leh main XBox Live, leh pakai headset berborak...huhuhuhu
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Post time 24-11-2006 06:58 PM | Show all posts
wah,bestnya..
aku pun bercadang nk beli 360 pulak..
masa untuk berubah
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Post time 25-11-2006 11:57 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 maffa's post

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i got the unmodded version...
thinking of flash the dvd rom myself
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Post time 25-11-2006 02:23 PM | Show all posts
ko tau ke camne nk flash..aku nk try gak..
sbb yg unmodded nyer x mhl sgt...
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Post time 25-11-2006 05:02 PM | Show all posts
3 bulan lepas ni,insyaallah 360 ada kt rumah aku
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Post time 29-11-2006 12:53 PM | Show all posts
aper la korang ni.. sampai biler nak support pirate?

aku skg owned 360 unmodded dan quite happy ngannyer. rm150 utk 1 game mmg la mahal but, aku just beli game2 yg aku mmg suke jer. btw, aku nak main online gak coz m$ akan keluarkan update yg terbaru tak lama lagi so, jgn harapla korang nak main game ciplak online.

btw, aku masih student yet aku tau nak simpan duit beli game ori. korang yg dah keje dan bergaji still tak sanggup beli.. ni la mentaliti org kite..

p.s: kalau korang tak mampu beli next-gen..jgn la berangan. ps2 ngan xbox kan ader. 2 pon beli pirated..
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Post time 29-11-2006 01:41 PM | Show all posts
Ko nak main ori ikut ko ler tak siapa yg larang...setakat game jer ori, Windows, MS Office pun masih pirate, itu tak lagi citer download MP3...jgn jadi hipokrit ler....
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