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Tragedi MH17 V5 : 35 jenazah selamat dibawa pulang termasuk 2 jenazah pd 9/9
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saper dah baca report?
aku baru donlod je.. |
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biggirlduncry posted on 9-9-2014 04:05 PM
saper dah baca report?
aku baru donlod je..
Link... ?
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Fly, fly little wing
Fly beyond imagining
The softest cloud, the whitest dove
Upon the wind of heaven's love
Past the planets and the stars
Leave this lonely world of ours
Escape the sorrow and the pain
And fly again
Fly, fly precious one
Your endless journey has begun
Take your gentle happiness
Far too beautiful for this
Cross over to the other shore
There is peace forevermore
But hold this memory bittersweet
Until we meet
Fly, fly do not fear
Don't waste a breath, don't shed a tear
Your heart is pure, your soul is free
Be on your way, don't wait for me
Above the universe you'll climb
On beyond the hands of time
The moon will rise, the sun will set
But I won't forget
Fly, fly little wing
Fly where only angels sing
Fly away, the time is right
Go now, find the light
written by Jean-Jacques Goldman/Galdston |
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Tengah baca report. 34 mukasurat. |
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Persberichten9 sep. 2014
Preliminary report points towards external cause of MH17 crash
No evidence of technical faults
Flight MH17 with a Boeing 777-200 operated by Malaysia Airlines broke up in the air probably as the result of structural damage caused by a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside. This is mentioned in the preliminary report on the investigation into the crash of MH17 that has been published today by the Dutch Safety Board. There are no indications that the MH17 crash was caused by a technical fault or by actions of the crew. |
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According to ATC data, at 12.53 hrs the aircraft was flying within the Dnipropetrovs’k FIR,
Control Sector 2, at FL330, controlled by Dnipro Control.
At that time, Dnipro Control asked whether MH17 was able to climb to FL350 in accordance with the flight plan of MH17 and also to clear a potential separation conflict with other traffic in the area, another Boeing 777 flying at FL330 and approaching from behind.
The crew replied they were unable to comply and requested to maintain at FL330. This was agreed by Dnipro Control. As an alternative to solve the separation conflict, the other traffic climbed to FL350. According to ATC data, at 13.00 hrs the crew of flight MH17 requested to divert the track 20 NM to the left, due to weather.
This also was agreed by Dnipro Control, after which the crew requested whether FL340 was available. Dnipro control informed MH17 that FL340 was not available at that moment and instructed the flight to maintain FL330 for a while. At 13.07 hrs the flight was transferred to Dnipropetrovs’k CTA 4, also with call sign Dnipro Control.
At 13.19:53 hrs, radar data showed that the aircraft was 3.6 NM north of centreline of airway L980 having deviated left of track, when Dnipro Control directed the crew to alter their route directly to waypoint RND due to other traffic. The crew acknowledged at 13.19:56 hrs.
At 13.20:00 hrs, Dnipro Control transmitted an onward ATC clearance to proceed direct to TIKNA after RND, no acknowledgement was received. Data from the Flight Data Recorder and the Digital Cockpit Voice Recorder both stopped at 13.20:03 hrs.
Last edited by mnm77 on 9-9-2014 05:04 PM
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dalam preliminary report tu ada fdr data...
korang donlod baca la sendiri ek... Last edited by biggirlduncry on 9-9-2014 04:25 PM
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Diversion: Alasan TRAFFIC dan WEATHER
Boleh percaya ke?
Last edited by mnm77 on 9-9-2014 04:26 PM
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mnm77 posted on 9-9-2014 04:22 PM
Diversion: Alasan TRAFFIC dan WEATHER
Boleh percaya ke?
mmm tah la rasenye arituh ade yg inform weather crystal clear..
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hmmm, kata nyer kawasan perang... air traffic pun dah kurang... cuaca pun clear jea ms kjadian... mcm kena edited jea skrip dr ATC... |
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MH17 crash: Dutch experts say numerous objects hit plane
Dutch experts say Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 broke up in mid-air after being hit by "numerous objects" that "pierced the plane at high velocity".
A report released by the Dutch Safety Board said there was "no evidence of technical or human error".
A BBC correspondent says this evidence is consistent with the plane being struck by shrapnel from a missile.
The plane was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed in rebel-held territory eastern Ukraine in July.
All 298 people on board, most of them from the Netherlands, died when the plane came down, amid reports it was shot down by pro-Russian rebels.
Dutch aviation investigators relied on information from the black box flight data recorders, air traffic control, satellite images and photos from the scene to compile the preliminary report.
They said the plane "broke up in the air probably as the result of structural damage caused by a large number of high-velocity objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside."
The cockpit voice recorder revealed no signs of any technical faults or an emergency situation, the experts said.
Criminal investigation
While it is not the final report into the crash, the findings are significant because they are the first official account of what happened, says the BBC's Anna Holligan in the Netherlands.
The report does not attribute blame or liability for the crash but a separate criminal investigation is being conducted by prosecutors in The Hague, she adds.
The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 crashed between Krasni Luch in Luhansk region and Shakhtarsk in the region of Donetsk on 17 July.
The Dutch Safety Board is leading an international probe to try to piece together evidence on what happened.
Ukraine's government and several Western leaders say there is strong evidence that pro-Russian separatists shot down the plane with an anti-aircraft system known as Buk.
Russia has consistently denied allegations that it had supplied any missiles or weapons to the rebels.
Experts from the UK, Germany, Australia, Malaysia, the US, Ukraine and Russia are collaborating on the case.
The board says it expects the final report to be published within a year. |
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cheewong posted on 9-9-2014 04:31 PM
mmm tah la rasenye arituh ade yg inform weather crystal clear..
Belakang MH17 ada Singpore Airline, kalau masalah weather, tentu Singpore pun kena route jugak!
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yaminz posted on 9-9-2014 04:36 PM
hmmm, kata nyer kawasan perang... air traffic pun dah kurang... cuaca pun clear jea ms kjadian... mc ...
Lagi satu, ATC kata crew yang tak comply dan nak stay FL330, walhal semua arahan dari ATC untuk terbang tinggi mana jika ada traffic lain
MAS sendiri dah kata MH17 flightplan yang asal request FL3500
Macam kena edit jer...
At that time, Dnipro Control asked whether MH17 was able to climb to FL350 in accordance with the flight plan of MH17 and also to clear a potential separation conflict with other traffic in the area, another Boeing 777 flying at FL330 and approaching from behind.
The crew replied they were unable to comply and requested to maintain at FL330. This was agreed by Dnipro Control. As an alternative to solve the separation conflict, the other traffic climbed to FL350. According to ATC data, at 13.00 hrs the crew of flight MH17 requested to divert the track 20 NM to the left, due to weather.
Apa reason crew tak boleh comply FL350 yang ikut flight plan asal? Kalau tak boleh comply tentu ada reason yang MESTI disebut.
Last edited by mnm77 on 9-9-2014 04:53 PM
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mnm77 posted on 9-9-2014 04:50 PM
Lagi satu, ATC kata crew yang tak comply dan nak stay FL330, walhal semua arahan dari ATC untuk te ...
Crew mintak naik FL340 pun tak kasi. Traffic alasan dia.
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mnm77 posted on 9-9-2014 04:50 PM
Lagi satu, ATC kata crew yang tak comply dan nak stay FL330, walhal semua arahan dari ATC untuk te ...
kalau tak silap, ari tu baca MAS yg nak lalu at 3500 tapi ATC kata traffic.
awat laporan cakap gini pulak...
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mnm77 posted on 9-9-2014 04:47 PM
Belakang MH17 ada Singpore Airline, kalau masalah weather, tentu Singpore pun kena route jugak!
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betulll betulll....
kalau preli report dah berbelit gini... dapat kah kita pembelaan sewajarnya?
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yup, kalo ms tu mmg byk pesawat lalu & mmg sesak sgt smpi kena tukar path flight mmg boleh consider la kan... tp dlm ms kjadian, laluan tu xsesak & mostly flight operator da divert k kwsan len...
reason tu mmg boleh dsangkal la... mcm dbuat2... |
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@NIXAR
Nanti benang baru tolong update pasal preliminary report ni kat tajuk.
Yg benang lama ni nak update pun boleh gak. |
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