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Hudud Boleh Hakis Hak-Hak Wanita – Sister In Islam
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Maideen. replied at 26-3-2015 11:30 PM
Maaf mencelah AN. Dalam soalan @elmen tadi ada dua kesalahan yang dilakukan . yang pertama iala ...
Ye maideen..yg jd isunya pasal wanita tidak boleh jd saksi dlm kes menyamun hukum hudud tu tadi lah..tak tahulah bila tak cukup saksi..maka bila didakwa dibawah takzir..wanita yg disamun dan dirogol itu tadi boleh mendakwa dan menjadi saksi dan mangsa.
Ini perlu pas jelaskan.. |
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kena rogol
nak cari saksi, cuma ada acong, spidey, taikor dan noor2
acong, spidey dan taikor takleh jadi saksi sebab kafir
noor2 walau muslim, tp pompuan |
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mencuri di kelantan
kena hudud ikut mahkamah syariah
lepas tu kena penjara ikut mahkamah sivil pulak
kesian org islam, dua hukuman utk 1 kesalahan |
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tumpang tanya ya AN...hadi adoh speaking cctv tu besi...tak leh jadi saksi.....jiga kalu duit dio kat atm keno kobes.....cuma ado cctv rakam kutu yang rembat duit dio...tak bolih tangkap mamat tu kan.......
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Betui lah Sahib....Sis ni tak baco AlQuran...tau nak melenting......kan dalam Surah (Al-Baqarah 2:282), adoh sebut pempuan bulih jadik saksi....
sekerat dari ayat tu....."Kemudian kalau tidak ada saksi dua orang lelaki, maka bolehlah, seorang lelaki dan dua orang perempuan dari orang-orang yang kamu setujui menjadi saksi, supaya jika yang seorang lupa dari saksi-saksi perempuan yang berdua itu maka dapat diingatkan oleh yang seorang lagi."
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On the other hand, women were not allowed to bear witness in early Jewish society.The Rabbis counted women's not being able to bear witness among the nine curses inflicted upon all women because of the Fall (see the "Eve's Legacy" section). Women in today's Israel are not allowed to give evidence in Rabbinical courts. The Rabbis justify why women cannot bear witness by citing Genesis 18:9-16, where it is stated that Sara, Abraham's wife had lied.
http://www.al-islam.org/
siapoh ikut siapoh neh.....
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betul gak ISIS ni ckp.. eh SIS. |
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@sofea_uk
Sebok pader2 pertikaikan kata hukum2 takde dlm al-Quran.
Jesus dah terang2 sebut Hukum Hudud dalam Bible pun tak tau or buat2 tak tau!!!
Matthew 5:29-30 ( ADULTERY)
…29"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30"If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 ESV
“When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.
[John 8:7 b]Jesus Delivers the Adulterous Woman
…6They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. 7But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." 8Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.…
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IN THE BIBLE
STONING, BURNING, HANGING, STONING, SLAYING, SRANGLING, CRUFIX....Semua Hukum2 ni
terang2 disebut dalam Bible.
Pader2/paderita2 tara baca ka? Itu Bible taro almari simpan baik2 bagi lipas2 baca ka?
Ni mesti jenis pader2/paderita Vatican lulusan Kg. Railway!!
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ok, paham.. makne nye bukan hudud je yg ade dlm sistem kehakiman islam.. ade ta'zir dan lain2 utk pembuktian kesalahan..tapi org ni sume benda pun nak panggil hudud.. tu yg konpius.. thanks..
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jelas sgt dah ni.. dah faham makna nya.. thanks bang meden..
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ntah apa pasal, berita dari oversea lagi betul sebut bab ni...
diorang panggil 'sharia law'.
Kat sini patutnya panggil undang2 Shariah, baru betul.
Hudud tu salah satu komponen je.
TAKZIR ada orang sebut sikit-sikit
QISAS dan DIAT....terus takder orang sebut.
Tu yg boleh terfikir takder 4 saksi boleh lepas la.
Asal mencuri je, kena potong tangan la. |
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Yup klu kes mahkamah pun rakaman cctv sbnarnya xkukuh
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I selalu kurang bersetuju dengan ideology SIS ni. Perjuangkan sangat equality between men & women. Banyak sangat ilmunya, sampai semua benda dia argue. |
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skg isunya bukan kasi senang susah bang..isunya keadilan utk kedua2 pehak...yg dituduh dan yg menuduh...ko pun tak suka kalo org yg merogol terlepas camtu je sebab saksi kena rejek kan.
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kecimpret replied at 27-3-2015 01:12 AM
skg isunya bukan kasi senang susah bang..isunya keadilan utk kedua2 pehak...yg dituduh dan yg menu ...
adakah hudud tu satu-satunya sistem nak sabit kesalahan? kalau itu lah satu-satunya cara, mmg pesalah terlepas dan mmg hudud tu zalim. |
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kalo org tu beragama Islam dan undang2 hudud ni jd kenyataan di kelate, mmg itulah satu2nya sistem yg digunapakai..mana leh pilih2 nak dibicara bwh sistem mana...camtu best laaaaa
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"Kesaksian non-muslim lebih rendah tarafnya berbanding orang muslim"
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bab islam ada saja yg bantah |
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Jalan je dulu HUDUD tu baru tau kesannya macam mane  |
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Post time 27-3-2015 01:18 AM
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