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Edisi fitnah : Dalam kristian tiada kasta!
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Apa yang putar belit? Tolong senaraikan. Aku boleh jawab satu per satu.
Lepas tu aku akan senaraikan putar belit dan teori merepek kau pulak.
Jom! Ada berani?
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ok, da tengok. lol. simple je alasan dia. 'comfirmation'.
eccely ramai kat sini bukan nak bertanya n belajar sama/beza antara agama.
lebih pada nak kondem agama org je. pastu takdpt beza 'antara agama dgn perangai'.
lebih buruk keadaan bila ada hindu yg gigih jd hero kristian dan kutuk islam.
saja2 nak jana provokasi agama. 
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Edited by Redskin at 12-2-2018 03:35 PM
Jesus ngaku dia equal dengan God, siappengakuan dari mulut Thomas kata Jesus my Lord, my God, dan Jesus tak deny. Koada baca ke tak?
Ayat mana yg kata Jesus mengaku dia EQUAL to God ?? 
Ayat2 yg ko bagi semuanya TAK JELAS, usah nak temberang.
Kami mintak unambiguous statements dimana Jesus kata “I am God” or ”I am Equal to God” or “Worship me” ???
Ko syok sendiri kaa Cikgu ?? 
Ko kata Jesus EQUAL to God, banyak BERCANGGAH dgn ayat2 Bible sendiri
Ko melakukan syirik membanding2kan Elohim dgn Jesus and Holy Spirit.
John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, forI seek not to please myself but him who has sent
Isaiah 46:5
"With whom will you compare me or count me equal? To whom will you liken me that we may be compared?
Cikgu Tadika yg mandai2 tafsir sendiri , last2 kantoii bercanggah dgn kata2 Elohim. 
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Kau akan lagi susah atau terkantoi bila bercakap pasal trinity ni
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Ha ha .. ni aku nak pekenakan lagi clueless cikgu chazey yg mati2 klaim ttg biblical Jesus adalah tuhan & kes trinity dlm bible
Aku tepek post#116 dari ko
Now perhati ayat2 di bawah:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
Macamana lowbowdo Sam boleh benak namampus sampai tak nampak The Word dalam ayat 'in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ngan The Word dalam frasa 'The Word became flesh' tu bukan merujuk kepada benda yang sama? Gila ka apa lowbowdo Sam ini?
Pahaman clueless cikgu chazey
(1) tuhan dlm bible adalah trinity (ie. God = Trinity)
(2) biblical Jesus adalah tuhan (ie. Jesus = God , 2nd person of the Trinity)
(3) Word = biblical Jesus
Skg kita tengok joh1:1 ikut pahaman cluless cikgu chazey :
In the beginning was the Trinity , and the Jesus was with Trinity, and the Jesus was Trinity.
Ni lah dia Joh1 1:1 kalo kita ikut fahaman clueless cikgu chazey
Bible dah hancur dgn pahaman clueless cikgu chazey
Ok , skg kita tengok pulak pahaman aku
(1) God dlm bible hanya satu (dipanggil Father oleh Jesus)
(2) biblical Jesus adalah manusia biasa
(3) word <> word became flesh
Definisi 'word' pada joh1:1 ada pada ps33:6 (Bible NIV)
By the word of the Lord the heavens were made,
their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
Kita rujuk pulak Joh1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
Kalo ikut pahaman aku
joh1:1 : In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
joh1:14 : The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
joh1:1 rujuk kepada pengetahuan / kebijaksanaan tuhan & joh1:14 kepada seorang manusia yg terima pengentahuan / kebijaksanaan tuhan , ertikata lain Rasul tuhan
Clueless cikgu chazey , ada tak tukar apa2 pada 2 ayat2 tersebut?
Kalo tak ada , bermakna fahaman aku harmonise the bible manakala fahaman ko contradict or destroy the bible
Ha ha ha ha ... apa mau cerita skg clueless cikgu chazey? Sama tak 'word' & 'word became flesh'?
Kalo ko masih pikir ia sama .... god help your students .... kesian depa dapat cikgu yg tak cerdik
Lepas ni mula lah maki hamun pasal tak mampu jawab ... typical lah dgn lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis. Mula2 dok lari dari satu ayat ke ayat yg lain , bila dah tersepit , maki hamun ... tapi , tapi , tapi .... isu tak terjawab pon
Kah kah kah ... gurantee clueless cikgu chazey tak akan berani jawab
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Soalan mudah je kot.
Kami minta penyokong pengganas Kristian bagi tahu di mana Nabi Isa a.s. ada kata "I am God, please worship me". Itu saja.
Soalan pendek macam tu pun penyokong pengganas Kristian tak boleh jawab dan bagi macam-macam alasan untuk lari dari soalan di atas.
Siap masuk cerita pasal Islam. Padahal orang tanya pasal Kristian.
cc @FOTHER-MUCKER @chazey @Dwdrum @lkick2113 @M5 |
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Edited by Redskin at 12-2-2018 03:49 PM
Why would Thomas say:
"My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28), to Jesus,
if Jesus is not God in the Bible?
Berani korang klaim Bible tak kata pon Jesus Tuhan?
Ayat Thomas mengatakan "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28), to Jesus,
My Lord memang panggilan utk Jesus, My God adalah bermaksud OMG!!!  Tak bermakna Jesus Tuhan.
Kalo org yg terkejut tiba2 sebut Yaa..Allah, adakah org didepannya adalah Allah ? NOOO.
"My Lord and my God!" Adalah ayat yg di TAMBAH KEMUDIAN di ubah sedikit demi sedikit bagi mengangkat supayaJesus dilihat sebagai Tuhan. :mad:
Yahudi mabok memang terkenal suka menyelewengkan Bible.
Dan Kistian2 bodo ni purcaya bulat2 tanpa usul periksa..
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Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel rupa2 nya .. oh ye ko terpaksa pakai nick baru pasal dah malu , kesian ye
Ha ha ha ha , ko paham ke apa tu Free Will? Tuhan bagi hukum melalui wahyu tapi terpulang pada ko kalo nak ikut atau tidak. Konsep senang macam ni pon ko tak tau. Susah ni kalo tak berapa cerdik nak paham konsep yg senang
See folks , ni lah dia kaki kencing nombor wahid kat CI ni
Aku tanya 2 soalan senang aje (Sahih al-Bukhari 4350)
(1) rape
atau
(2) consensual sex
Ni jawapan lobainita minah sewel :
Consensual ? ....mahu cakap isteri ?
Hamba di dera gila sam? U ini penuh dengan sadistic dari pedo hingga ke hamba semua mahu hujah mendera ...lol...
Sahih Muslim 3383—Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported that a man came to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: I have a slave-girl who is our servant and she carries water for us and I have intercourse with her, but I do not want her to conceive. He said: Practise ‘azl, if you so like, but what is decreed for her will come to her. The person stayed back (for some time) and then came and said: The girl has become pregnant, whereupon he said: I told you what was decreed for her would come to he
Tiada beza pun zaman nabi seperti jahilliah saja pun....
Islam tiada kasta ?
Langsung tak mintak hang merepek , kalo ko kata
- rape ; apa bukti / rujukkan
- consensual sex ; apa bukti / rujukkan
ko
Ni counter yg akan rekod berapa banyak kali ko cuba konar pasal tak mau jawab
counter = 1
Observe again folks : bila dah takut jawab soalan , lobainita minah sewel akan lari ke isu yg lain ie. Sahih Muslim 3383 lah , jahilliah lah , kasta lah
Ni typical lah , lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis tak akan jawab apa2 soalan (tapi paksa org lain jawab soalan dia). Depa akan lari dari satu isu ke isu lain , lepas tu maki hamun , lepas tu senyap terus (maklum lah bukti / rujukkan mereka selalunya bawah OSA)
Kah kah kah ... berapa lama agak2 lobainita minah sewel akan lari tanpa jawab soalan senang
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Defcon2 replied at 12-2-2018 03:46 PM
Soalan mudah je kot.
Kami minta penyokong pengganas Kristian bagi tahu di mana Nabi Isa a.s. ada ...
Ek eleh baru sekarang konon ko muncol.
Dah banyak aku bagi, korang tak terima. Macam juga aku minta ayat dari Koran Nabi Muhammad directly ngaku dia nabi utusan Allah but korang takleh bagi. Yang korang bagi cuma ayat dari Allah jah then lobai sam apatah nombor tu konar macam2, pght. Aku pon hada bagi ayat direct dari Elohim tentang Jesus being His Child in the Bible siap tapi korang tak terima. So?
Siap masuk cerita pasal Ialam konon. Tak sadar ko selama ni pon buat benda yang sama bila orang cerita pasal kejahatab penganut agama Islam ko pi konar ceritapengganas Kristian? Pght.
Dasar ketongongan penganut agama Samawi. |
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Redskin replied at 12-2-2018 03:47 PM
Ayat Thomas mengatakan "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28), to Jesus,
My Lord memang panggil ...
MY GOD BERMAKSUD OMG?!
OH MY GOD COBAAN KONAR YANG SANGAT BEBAL! OMG AT LEAST SAM ITU TIDAK LA SEBEBAL KO, OMG OMG DASAR LOBAI BODO KAKI SPIN! |
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Pertama kali akak jumpa argument shitty namampos dari lobai @Redskin di CI ini. OMG! Dah gila agaknya nak menang punya pasal sanggup spin ayat Thomas pada Jesus (My Lord and) My God itu adelah OMG!
Gila kau dek. Tak nak dah akak reply komen ko. Lebih gila dari lobainita Gosh! |
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Edited by Redskin at 12-2-2018 04:04 PM
Thomas takajut.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
See.
Korang interpret Bible ikut suka hati korang as if korang berada di sana masa peristiwa dalam Bible tu berlaku, boleh.
Cikgu tadika menunjukkan kebodohan sundri.. 
Luke 24:36
And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37Butthey were terrified and affrightened, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Bila masa imterpret Bible ikut sendiri??
Cikgu Bahalol.. you don’t know your own Bible !!!   
Mereka taarkaajuut berokdan ketakutan seolah2 mereka nampak HANTU Jesus.!! 
Apa tak betul mereka taarkajutt/terrified mengikut ayat Luke…???Bingaiii.
Lain kali jgn ketawakan org dulu, sendri bodo tak tahu own Bibel.
Padahal Jesus tak mati ponnn…
Tapi bila orang lain interpret Quran or hadith ikut sukahati pemahaman sindri pandai lak melenting.
Kapir2 lehnat memang suka fitnah tentang Al Quran dan Hadith..tapi tak mampu bagi BUKTI black and white...sembang air lior ajer..
 Hahaha.
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Defcon2 replied at 12-2-2018 01:13 PM
Mana ayat Nabi Isa a.s. isytihar dirinya tuhan dan semua orang kena sembah dia? Mana?
Takkanlah ...
Ko pi view author's post ja la view post aku. Koser nak taip balik satu persatu. |
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Ha ha ... bro , tu pasal aku panggil dia tu clueless cikgu chazey
'God' dlm joh20:28 , langsung tak rujuk kat biblical Jesus
Selang 3 ayat lepas ayat 28 dah konfom , joh20:31 (Bible NIV)
But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
Langsung tak kata Jesus adalah God. Jadik pada joh20:28 , 'God' tak bermaksud Jesus
Yg best , clueless cikgu chazey skg mati2 klaim
messiah = tuhan
Kah kah kah .... nak kata apa , dah paksa diri jadik kureng cerdik ... mengaku pulak diri tu cikgu & ajar anak2 org .... this is scary
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sam1528 replied at 12-2-2018 02:42 PM
Ha ha ... tak salah baca bible
- Baca bible rosak akidah? No
He was praying for himself la dalam ayat tu!
Ya ampun kemain konar! Ko tanampak ka tajuk besarnya tertera apa di ayat tu?!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=John+17:1-3&version=NKJV&interface=amp |
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sam1528 replied at 12-2-2018 02:42 PM
Ha ha ... tak salah baca bible
- Baca bible rosak akidah? No
Dah hancurkan konsep trinity apanya?Hello? “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30) kata Jesus so apa konsep trinity yang hancur? |
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katowjo replied at 12-2-2018 12:22 PM
miss chazey..aku tertarik ngan hujah lobai2 yang bila tersepit suka keluar buku mitos fiction dia ...
Aik, ada rupanya ayat gini dalam hadis. Tenkiu for sharing sis Kat. Semoga kita mendapat manfaat hasil dari perkongsian ini.
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Ha ha ... you are so confused & clueless lah clueless cikgu chazey
Praying for is not the issue
To whom is he praying to?
(1) the Trinity
(2) Father (whom he address being God)
(3) himself
(4) Holy spirit
mana satu?
You have this uncanny ability to misunderstand anything & everything
Ko terlampau konfius & clueless
Kah kah kah ... hmmm , you a teacher ke clueless cikgu chazey
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Edited by chazey at 12-2-2018 04:21 PM
sam1528 replied at 12-2-2018 04:04 PM
Ha ha ... bro , tu pasal aku panggil dia tu clueless cikgu chazey
'God' dlm joh20:28 , langsung ...
Ek eleh. Dari post ni jah dah nampak betapa kaki putar alamnya lobai Sam ini.
Lehat gimana takda pun '&' kat ayat asal, yang ada hanya koma, tetiba dia pi delete koma tu pastu tambah simbol & . Pastu klaim dia betul. Padahal dia sindri pepandai tambah delete comma, insert (conjunction) '&' yang akan mengubah maksud asal, pastu klaim dia betul sambil membangga diri.
Ek eleeeeeeh.
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sam1528 replied at 12-2-2018 04:17 PM
Ha ha ... you are so confused & clueless lah clueless cikgu chazey
Praying for is not the issue ...
Hello Samputar, dah berapa banyak aku taip kat post seblom2 ni Jesus tu turun ke bumi sebagai anak manusia, thus dia juga digelar son of man banyak kali dalam New Testament, dan kuasanya terbatas sebagai seorang manusia although he did perform miracles?
Dan sah2 he was praying to the Father since he addressed the Father dalam ayat tu. Ini juga bokti Jesus hada close relationship dengan the Father as praying tu kan ke cara manusia communicate or reach out to God. Berapa banyak kali he prayed to the Father dinyatakan dalam Bible dan surely takda Kristian yang tahu Bible akan deny pasal ni.
Muslim memang takkan terima dan takkan faham konsep ni la, sebab dalam Islam, Jesus bokan Tuhan.
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Post time 12-2-2018 02:48 PM
