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[tvN/Netflix] Bulgasal : Immortal Souls (Lee Jin Wook, Kwon Nara, Lee Joon, Gong Seung Yeon)

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 Author| Post time 30-1-2022 10:35 AM | Show all posts
summary epi 14..
i guess Si Ho & Do Yoon will die in tonight's episode..
that's the only reason kenapa Hwal boleh rasa guilty & even try to kill himself dlm preview epi 14...
detektif Kwon pun x sure whether he can survive till the end...
so apa yg jadi 1000-600 tahun lepas berulang balik unless if they find a way to stop it...
but what's the point kalau org yg diorg anggap family tu semua dah mati?


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 Author| Post time 30-1-2022 10:47 AM | Show all posts
epi 13 ni iols geram betul kat Hwal & Sang Un...
Hwal boleh dia cakap 'tu je ke? ingat penting sgt' masa Do Yoon panggil dia suruh tengok2kan Hye Seok...
dia marah ke Do Yoon kacau daun panggil time dia tgh borak2 dgn Sang Un?

Sang Un pun satu...patutnya dia bgtau je apa yg dia nampak dlm vision dia kat Hwal...
so that diorg boleh plan nak buat apa...
dunno why, i feel both main characters are dumb..
tu yg buat ramai viewers x boleh nak root for them mcm apa yg sepatutnya...
mcm time Hwal bawak Eul Tae ke well dlm episod minggu lepas tu, dia xde buat apa2 plan pun...just simply bawak Eul Tae ke situ...
ke bulgasal ni memang dumb? x boleh pikir bijak sikit...

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Post time 30-1-2022 01:11 PM | Show all posts
xyla73 replied at 30-1-2022 08:48 AM
Writer citer ni bukan writer Goblin walaupun ramai dok compare citer ni dgn Goblin…

Writer Gobli ...

oh yes writer dia bukan ye pnulis Goblin

and i check it's the director
yups sorry
director goblin tu and writer pernah bekerja dengan director Bulgasal.
https://www.soompi.com/article/1 ... -to-goblin-and-more
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Post time 30-1-2022 02:00 PM | Show all posts
adakah dengan ep 13 ni terjawab kah soalan  yg ditanya Hwalgasal ni

1. who was I before ?
- yes - you and Sanggasal were  a couple ,  you two seemed to love each other , though you are slighlt more possessive and obsessive , sampai insecure gitu.
- you seemed to be associated with the massacre , amok  in a village 1000 years ago -  ep 4 , masa swimming pool tu kan Hwal pernah citer yg ayah dia pernah dengar rumour atau legend yg ada bulgasal giler ngamuk ... thsi was  circa 600 years ago masa Hwal human was with Detective Known ( the foster father ) ...
- you were killed stabbed  by Ok Eul Tae  presumed done
but dunno the actual context ...takkan obseesive possesive sangat sampai gitu
could be eul Tae's doing

2.  Why did she put a curse on you - because you were running amok , massacre . Probably  there was some misunderstandings , miscontrued context by Ok Eul Tae - i dont think Ok Eul TAe ni baik lah.


3. why did i ask you to turn me into human ke Bulgasal ?
ini i dont think jawapannya betul dari Ok Eul Tae. ep 12 ok eul tae cakap Hwal asked him to become  bulgasal...so he broght Sang eun to him  600 years ago, but we also see sapa yg beria sangat  so..


. one sided love - ? not quite one sided  - i think Ok eul  tae yg one sided.

sebab patchy memories kedua duanya ni - Hwal and Sang Eun maka susah nak established true concrete answers .

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Post time 30-1-2022 02:19 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 30-1-2022 02:20 PM

hwal 's shirts.
the colour has changed from dark ,greyish hues to white - last week and then blue and then purple..
what are they implying ...i nampak macam representing hsi state of mind, emotions  and  tengok ep 1  pulak colour ape...
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 Author| Post time 30-1-2022 03:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 30-1-2022 02:00 PM
adakah dengan ep 13 ni terjawab kah soalan  yg ditanya Hwalgasal ni

1. who was I before ?

Apa yg Ok Eul Tae cakap tu half true je…event yg dia cakap tu memang berlaku tapi si pelakunya lain…contohnya kalau ikut cakap dia Hwal teringin nak jadi bulgasal, tapi sebenarnya dia yg merayu kat BulgaHwal utk jadikan dia bulgasal…

I believe the same goes to cerita pasal one sided love ni…kalau tgk flashback doesn’t looks like BulgaHwal’s love to BulgaLady was one sided…sebenarnya Eul Tae tu yg ada one sided love kat BulgaHwal…he yearns for BulgaHwal’s attention even in present time…tu sebab dia benci sgt kat Sang Un sebab Hwal always choose her…he just manipulate the story supaya memihak kat dia…bila Hwal xnak percaya kat dia he went berserk & ugut nak bunuh org2 yg dekat dgn Hwal…

another theory why Eul Tae beria2 sgt nak bunuh Sang Un, sebab Sang Un is carrying his soul…dia nak destroy his own soul so that dia boleh jadi full bulgasal…
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Post time 30-1-2022 03:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
xyla73 replied at 30-1-2022 03:28 PM
Apa yg Ok Eul Tae cakap tu half true je…event yg dia cakap tu memang berlaku tapi si pelakunya la ...

Kan...i do believe eul tae twist the story to fit his intention from beginning. Entah2 hwal dulu amuk bunuh semorang tu cause by eul tae deceiving him,to break hwal n the lady trust  Kan lps tu ada scene eul tae papah hwal kan tinggalkan lady dgn all the dead bodies. Lepas tu kot sambung scene eul tae dgn hwal sandar bawah pokok n hwal korek eul tae heart.
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Post time 30-1-2022 04:01 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 30-1-2022 04:12 PM
xyla73 replied at 30-1-2022 03:28 PM
Apa yg Ok Eul Tae cakap tu half true je…event yg dia cakap tu memang berlaku tapi si pelakunya la ...

yeah, sbb Ok Eul Tae ni suke ubah ubah dia nyer narrative. and he tends to be greedy, etc . I think the real deal ni dia mesti buat something yg mengeruhkan hubungan Hwalgasal and Sanggasal ni 1000 years ago.
i wish Eul tae jadi manusia balik je then die. tapi ini ade price to pay on sang eun pulak le...unless sang eun tak kisah jadi bulgasal, well dia pun dah faham situasi kan , so okaylah jugak dia bulgasal hwal bulgasal...  tapi  bukan ke sang eun ni dah capai maximal renewal limit ke ? - mcm nak masuk/ type password pulak conceptnya. I hope ep 14 ni Si Ho and Do Yoon jgnlah mati , tapi kalau mati pun , as macam 600 years ago jugak. cheh ...Lady Shaman tu kata si ho , do yoon and her baby gotta live. tapi tu lah nampak ep 1 tu macam trauma teruk je kat Si Ho and do Yoon ...and Hwal nampak macam nak suicide je...


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Post time 30-1-2022 04:17 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 30-1-2022 04:26 PM

it's hot today...markah budak i tak buat lagi ni h haha

but haish i keep on ruminating hal Bulgasal ni sebab dia macam puzzles analytical puzzle gitu...

geram lah ...sebab dsri lue clue ygdiberikan ni tak dapat kah kita agak apa jadi endingnyer?

sad?

happy?

if ideal kinda happy finale ?
ideally i nak semua hidup kecuali Eul Tae, curse being lifted , hwal and Sang Eun jadi manusia lah senang then they could live happily and death parted them lah ..
yg lain lain pun ideal endingnya, now ini mustahil. dah ade yg mati.

acceptable happy ending - Sang Eun jadi Bulgasal , but Hwal kena hidup jugak jadi lah ape ape bentuk pun..ntah lah ni ...dgn concept soul exchanging process frm one body to another tu pun ade rules dia pulak...
yg lain kalau terpaksa mati maka nak bat camne dah...

unacceptable ending
hwal sang eun mati - Eul Tae dalam telaga. oh god this is too awful ending!!!!

in between tak pe lah lebih kurang ...kelat ending - semue ends  in the  "well" hmmmmhaha ambiguous phrase.
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Post time 30-1-2022 04:22 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 30-1-2022 04:24 PM

shaman tu pun satu lah

takkan hwal and sang eun supposedly not to cross each other's path ? they are lovers  in teh past pun ..lerr.... then who suppose to cross path with her or trespassing sanggasal , 1000 years ago ???Eul Tae?
kekadang Shaman i pun clue dia tu ntah.

macam satu tu :   siapa yg dapat memory akan jadi pembunuh so far yg kena bunuh tu dia and may be tonite -  do yoon and si ho so?
yg mmebunuh tu monster and Atas arahan Eul tae...so ???
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Post time 30-1-2022 10:05 PM | Show all posts
ep 14

hmm ....ala ala Vincenzo.....someone reciprocate   hahaha...

anyways ...ep 14 ...adelah beberapa flashbacks...
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Post time 30-1-2022 10:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Sapa budak 2 org 1000thn tu?

Konfius betul dgn timelines drama ni dgn tukar2 soul lg.

Detective Ham tu kan soldier masa Hwal kena bunuh Bulgasal merah.. Last2 episode ni byk pulak scene dia. Pastu Eul Tae sendiri request dia tangkap Siho & Doyun.. Eul Tae kenal je org2 Hwal dr masa silam..
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 Author| Post time 30-1-2022 10:50 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
So Hwal yg curse diri dia sendiri utk dilahirkan semula dgn scar kat tangan tu…betullah dia ada request Eul Tae to turn him back to bulgasal utk tutup balik lubang hitam Eul Tae…kalau x selamanyalah Eul Tae menderita…dlm erti kata lain dia curse Eul Tae sekali..
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Post time 30-1-2022 11:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by akuchenta at 30-1-2022 11:27 PM

Jadi soul pada Sang Un tu soul Eul Tae la kan

1000 thn Hwal ambik soul Eul Tae
600 thn Sang Un ambik soul Eul Tae pada Hwal..


Sekejap nya episode 14 ni.

Detective Kwon pulak mcm nk side Eul Tae. Harap2 dia tak tertipu dgn Eul Tae
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 Author| Post time 30-1-2022 11:44 PM | Show all posts
sedih pulak tgk epi 14 ni part throwback Hye Seok & Hwal...she's the only family to him & camtu jugak sebaliknya...
walaupun Hwal dah taruk barrier xnak rapat sgt dgn Hye Seok tapi she kept coming to him...

she may be reincarnated from the shaman in her previous life tapi in this life dia bukan shaman tu...
Hye Seok & shaman 2 individu berbeza just like Dan Sol & Si Ho...
they can't remember what happened in their previous life...
kalau ikut logik seseorang tu reincarnated jadi individu yg sama; Eul Tae, Hwal & Sang Un org yg samalah sebab soul Eul Tae yg diorg carry tu...

that's why dari awal lagi i rasa mesej citer ni is to let go...

mungkin tu je caranya to stop the cycle...
sebab kalau asyik berdendam je memang xkan abis sampai bila2...



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 Author| Post time 31-1-2022 12:01 AM | Show all posts
so 600 tahun dulu, Eul Taelah yg sepatutnya stab Hwal utk ambik balik soul dia tapi dia x buat...
persoalannya kenapa BulgaLady yg tikam Hwal, bukannya Eul Tae?
betul ke mcm apa yg Eul Tae cakap, dia yg suruh BulgaLady buat camtu...
tapi kalau ye, kenapa BulgaLady ikut cakap Eul Tae?
apa yg  Eul Tae cakap utk memanipulasi BulgaLady masa tu?
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Post time 31-1-2022 12:56 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 31-1-2022 02:05 AM

ep 14

Huh now we know - the context ....
masa Ok Eul Tae bersendirian dalam hutan ( ? yg sama may be? )
OKay now hmmm..


Well sebenarnya
Hwal yg put the curse of Bulgasal  on Eul Tae...
Tapi , ada syarat - sebelum tu Hwal dala keadaan macam cedera ( adakah lanjutan daripada kecederaan dia mengamuk tu ? who knows ) tapi apa apa pun  , tahulah yg Hwal  robek janting Eul Tae, setelah Eul tae tu habis pujuk rayu bagai - but Hwal said

I could not die yet and he just pierced EUl TAe's chest and crushed his heart ( soul)  BUT  ada syarat
he had made Eul TAe to promise him - he asked after 1000 years  Eul TAe is going to turn him back to  Bulgasal. OR else hwal said that dark hole will cause yu pain somewhat ...kalau u tak keep your promise you akan senantiasa rasa sakit pun ..so itulah tu...

itu janji Hwal yg kat Eul ate tapi Hwal tak ingat , Hwal cuma repeat apa yg eul Tae cakap masa ep 12 kat scene depa lawan kat railtrack on the bridge  tu je...

walhal mamat Eul tate ni manipulated the context. Adalah eul te setakat ni menipu - well...half truths - dia tak mentioned habis habis...kenapa hwal minta eul ate jadikan dia bulgasal balik... eul tae in ep 12 kata di anak kasi tahu semua tu bila hwal bunuh Sang eun...kalau hwal bunuh sang eun maka -apa jadi ? soul sag eun masuk ke hwal - ( eul tae's ) then Sang eun dah reached her max renewal limit dah kan? so dia may be mati atau jadi bulgasal .? but Hwal akan jadi manusia...kalaulah eul tae keeps his promise then , he will turn back to be a human and Hwal's back to a Bulgasal...
tapi ep 12 tu - Eul tae's was the one ,  too keen and eager to be a bulgasal...

well the real deal of the duo is just the promise which both of them should? fulfill lah . The hardest thing is ,  one has forgotten. and the other one  tu ...taimg his time although he has been tracing the whereabouts of Hwal and Sang en + twn sister all this whileeee.....so kalau sincere kenapa terpkasa bunuh bunuh instead of meeting them and communicate???
Sang eun was never been a part of the deal ...but what has caused her to mad intervene with this thingy 600 years ago ?
Then we see  600 years ago, Eul tae to kill hwa;s family - dia tak perlu pun , tapi dia kata ini perlu sebagai plan to fulfil his promise? was it really necessary?

i tak leh nak kata eul tae ni on the right side lah lagi 100%.
Hwal lupa janji and the actual context. that 's why he'd be asking Eul Ate  the  3 questions.

so - questions  mana yg terjawab ? why had sang eun put a spell on me?
why did i ask you to  turn me back to be a bulgasal - part of the promise...

okay  - now it's true Hwal asked Eul tae to turn him back to a Bulgasal but it is a promised where bothparties should.

Now yg jahat Eul Tae lah selama ni dia tahu konteks.
Dia yg tak nak mati and dia nak bunuh Sang eun sendiri  - sebba dia tak nak jadi human ..sebba Sang eun ada soul Eul Tae. so Sang Eun yg memang ada role yg critical...

so dah ade pun trailers ep 15 ...


but anyways - i  fahamlah kenapa Dan Hwal being a bit bitter and has this kind of attitude towards Ms Lee...Hwal masih terkilan dengan apa yg Lady Shaman tu buat 600 years ago, i can famlah lah , she asked teh villagers to kill him off kan...
so...okay he was a bit bitter.

Tapi boleh nampak dia care about do Yoo and San Sol ( Si Ho tu ) his family - he said it.

okaylah ep ni , suspens betul.

Inspector Ham tu teruks lah and I hope Detectuve Kwon tak termakan manipulation Eul Tae.

So - Eul tae's agenda is not to be a human back. he enjoyed the privileges of being a bulgasal.
okay deengan arahkan Hwal bunuh Sang eun - maka hwa akan jadi human and Sang Eun a bulgasal ...but Ok Eul Tae ni akan maintain jadi Bulgasal.

so now - Sang eun nampaknya kena sacrifice dirinya , yups and that 's it . She will turn back to be her Sanggasal lah...cuma something weird dalam trailers ep 15  - la ni trailers pun tak leh percaya sangat pun ...hwal keeps on wanting himself dead.
I could imagine  how tired he must be  facing all this challeneges back again...

choatic and meletihkan betul.

So  Makes sense lah Sang Eun cakap  kat Hwal : what have you done ...you started off the cycle vicious  cycle of bad , repetitive events once again.

masa Sang eun tikam dia tu - adakah sang eun bebetul nak tikam dia - ini yg 600 years ago..sebab he was a human then turned to Bulgasal, kira sang eun dah tolong reverse balik...
Sang eun masa tu transform jadi human ...so okay jugak kan sang eun to live as mortals...
tapi bila Hwal tikam Sang eun - maka itu lah tu...chaos balik, so ade le sebab eul tae ni kata sang eun ni kacau betul lah ta[i he wasn't a saint either , much wrse , eul tae had caused further damage.

cuma Hwal tak salah 100% - didah tak ingat apa apa pun sejak jadi human   , it's Eul tae yg tak nak keep his promise  ( boleh ke i kata cam tu - atau releuctant party  to even disclose the promise to hwal - selama lama ni kenapa nak dia tak cakap the truth? he has been tracking hwal on end since teh very beginnimg?...sebab dia  nak ke jadi manusia  balik  ? bukan dia ke tak nak jadi manusia balik yg sakit sakit and lemah.


memang betullah he needs to find Hwal so he could used him to kill Sang Eun...

Sang eun nyer memory pun patchy still...so apa jadi yg sampai Hwal kena curse bila he is till a human baby ) ep 1 ....? ep 1 ialah 600 years ago..transfoemasi Hwal ke human  , Ok Eul tae to being a bulgasal was 1000 years ago...hwal then turned to be a bulgasal becaue sange un tu 600 years ago...tapi kalau Eul ate ni baik dia hanya dealt with Hwal jelah , tak payah bunuh Si Ho and Do Yoon ersion 600 years ago.






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Post time 31-1-2022 02:07 AM | Show all posts
susah nak kata yg Ok eul tae ni sincere and pihak y benar setakat ni ...sebab kalau Hwal nak jadi bulgasal balik eh itu bukan salah dia pun , dia dah promised eul tae ...pun..ada syarat syarat lagi...

so..apa sebenarnya yg terjebakkan Sang Eun sekali ?
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OST part 4 - Beyond The Time (Janet Suhh)

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Post time 5-2-2022 08:16 PM | Show all posts
i br kedek2 ep 11 ni. so mmg x baca apa2 kat thread ni.. nak avoid spoiler.
x sabar tgu flashback apo lagi yg muncul
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