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[Tempatan] Edisi fitnah : Dalam kristian tiada kasta!

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Post time 15-2-2018 08:16 PM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 15-2-2018 12:31 PM
The first and most important one is that those women whose husbands died at war can be prevented ...

Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel , you are soooo clueless & terlampau konfius

Aku tepek apa ko cakap :
Sudah makan ubat penenang gila sam ? Dahsyat juga apabila penyakit u datang ...

Ingat kan hebat sangat tentang slavery di murica ... mereka hamba untuk buat lkeeja buruh yang dibayar dengan cara untuk berlangsung hidup providing needs  seperti tempat berteduh,makan dan minum dibayar untuk ganjaran kerja mereka ...samalah juga concubine western culture dahulu .... tidak ubah cara isle ....dalam masa yang sama boleh di tala .... yang di dera dan diseksa itu attitute master mereka ..... di sini i ber cakap tentang kasta .... walau isle terang kan cara layanan mereka ....tetapi tetap hamba kan dan ada syarat tertentu untuk bebas .... perbandingan penghambaan kapir dengan islam adalah sama tiada perbezaan pun .... cuma dunia sekarang di barat melaknat penghambaan sedang kan isle sedaya upaya putar belit untuk menyelamat kan budaya penghambaan supaya kelihatan mulia .....

Gila sam .... manusia boleh di jual beli?

Yang sokong penghambaan even cara isle.... ini walau bersyarat tetap hina  lebih teruk dari binatang .....
Bzzzzt wrong!!

Anak kepada hamba dari kongsian dgn tuan dlm Islam , zaman tersebut , adalah org bebas tapi tak sama dgn situasi kat US zaman tersebut. Pompuan tersebut kalo dah lahirkan anak akan bebas bila tuan dia mati , tak sama dgn situasi kat US zaman tersebut.

Don't make sweeping statements ... nampak gaya you don't know what you are talking about

Perbandingan apa yg ko nak cakap? Kalo ttg layanan kepada hamba , rujukkan ko terang2 catat hamba dilayan macam ahli keluarga. Banding dgn hamba kat US sebelum the civil war ... lebih teruk dari binatang. So .. what gives?

Kalo ko nak cakap pasal kasta ... mana nak sama ... tu pasal dipanggil hamba. Sekali sekala ko kena pakai akai tau

Kalo nak cakap pasal dunia skg ... mana lah ada hamba. Pasal apa ko ni blur sgt pakai situasi zaman skg & banding dgn zaman tersebut. Ini perbuatan org yg kureng cerdik.

Ha ha ha ha .... You are soooo clueless & teramat konfius

Kah kah kah .... lobainta minah sewel yg terlampau konfius .... tetiba banding situasi zaman skg dgn 1600 thn lepas ... ini semua kerja kaki kencing lah ni

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Post time 15-2-2018 08:45 PM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 15-2-2018 12:50 PM
- lobainita minah sewel , @Dwdrum , yg mati2 rela jadik pelacur daripada hamba yg tuan dia anggap  ...

Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel yg dah betul2 blur .. ko teramat konfius & clueless

Tak betul ke , ko mati2 kata kalo situasi sedemikian , ko tak rela jadik hamba ... the alternate adalah jadik pelacur ... rujukkan ko tau

Pasal apa you are all up in arms?

Apa yg ko nak argue ttg hadith tersebut? Jadik ko dok sibuk pasal jual beli hamba lah. Tu pahaman ko ttg hadith ini?
A man among us promised freedom to a slave after his death, and he did not have any property other than him (this slave). So the Prophet () sold him, and Ibn (Nahham), a man from Banu 'Adi, bought him.”
Ko skg terkinja kinja ... marah lah konon ... apa pasal tuan tersebut telah berjanji utk bebaskan hamba dia , tetiba Nabi Muhammad(saw) jual ke org lain

Cuba ko baca selang satu hadith selepas  , dicatat
that the Prophet (saw) said: "The Mudabbar is part of the one third of the estate."
Ini adalah isu Mudabbar :
If the master of the mudabbar dies and owes a debt which encompasses the mudabbar, he is sold to meet the debt because he can only be freed in the third (which is allowed for bequest) ."
He said, "Ifthe debt only includes half of the slave, half of him is sold for thedebt. Then a third of what remains after the debt is freed. "
Malik said, "It is not permitted to sell a mudabbar and it is notpermitted for anyone to buy him unless the mudabbar buys himself fromhis master. He is permitted to do that. Or else some one gives themaster of the mudabbar money and his master who made him a mudabbarfrees him. That is also permitted for him."
Bila mati , hutang kena settle dulu tau .. kena settle dari harta peninggalan. Ye lah , pada korang lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis , hutang banyak2 bila mati korang kira burn aje .... betul tak

Ko langsung tak paham apa isu yg ko nak cakap. Ko baca separuh aje & buat konklusi berdasarkan apa sedikit yg ko baca & lebih sikit apa yg ko paham.

Ha ha ha ha .... this is very poor from you. Ni lah dia , hanya baca separuh & tak tau hujung pangkal ... ko mula mengencing

Ni yg aku dok kata , lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis ni semuanya intellectually dishonest ... nak mengencing aje ... tak boleh ke korang try be honest

Kah kah kah ... rupa2 nya lobainita minah sewel tak tau apa yg dia dok cakap .... terbarai lagi kencing mengencing dia

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Post time 15-2-2018 08:56 PM | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 15-2-2018 12:51 PM
Ait? tanya soalan simple pon marah? Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpfffftht

Dah lah orang tanya soklan mud ...

Ha ha ... abam deeen (sengau2 slang mat salleh) terlampau terdesak nak score cheap points

Only cheapskates are on the lookout to score cheap points

Ha ha ha ha .... Yg aku tau hanya org kureng fasih english akan mati2 klaim
- Mariyah was beautiful = maria lebih cantik dari sirin

Desperate rupa2 nya abam deeen (sengau2 slang mat salleh) ni ye

Macamana pulak dgn thread ini dimana tembelang ko sebagai penipu bersiri dah terbarai?

Berpusing ko mengencing pasal nak cover line ... betul2 malu kan kan kan

Kah kah kah .. tak sangka abam deeen (sengau2 slang mat salleh) terlampau terdesak nak score cheap points ... mengaku pulak tu ada firma guaman sendiri ... tak ada kelas langsung



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Post time 15-2-2018 11:16 PM | Show all posts
Ha ha ha ha ... macamana ko boleh dgn pahaman songsang :
- mutawair = isnad
atau dlm english
- multiple attestation = chain of narration

Ni lah dia bahana kalo belajar Islam dari kuilatau gereja. Tambah pulak tak buat apa2 kaji selidik sebelum post.
Konon2 dahtak sabar nak pekena kan geng muslim


Hihihi ... Pader Koteyjo excited sangat tak sabar konon2 nak pekena geng Muslim.

Last2 kantoii tongong tak reti perbezaan isnad dgn hadis mutawatir.

lagi satu kaper lahanat kata Hadis Sahih = Sunnah...


Muka tak tahu maluu ada hati nak jadik pejuang Kistian..







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Post time 15-2-2018 11:37 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sofea_uk at 15-2-2018 11:51 PM
Dwdrum replied at 14-2-2018 07:38 AM
U ini kan gila sam suka sangat yang sadistic even hujah tentang pedo.... semua sadist tentang u  ...
Female slaves and their position
He could have asexual relationship with her. Although it seems unusual at first sight, it wasaccepted
normal in the historical conditions of that time. In fact, there is apermission about it in the Quran.

In the Surah of Al-Mu’minun the permission isexpressed as follows:


“Except from their wives or (the captives andslaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame.”

Hihihihi ..Minah Sewel Tongong tak tahu yg ayat tu bagi kebenaran that you can have
relations with your slave tapi BERSYARAT tauu..

Surah An-Nisa Ayat 25
And whoever of you have not the means where with to wed free believing women,
they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess,
and Allah has full knowledge about your faith, you are one from another. Wed them
with the permission of their own folk (guardians) and give them their due (Mahr) in a good
manner; they should be chaste, not fornicators, nor promiscuous.And after they
have been taken in wedlock, if they commit Fahishah, theirpunishment is half that
for free (unmarried) women. This is for him among you who isafraid of being
harmed in his religion or in his body; but it is better for youthat you practice
self-restraint, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
Surah An-Nur Ayat 32
And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves.
If they should be poor, Allah will enrich them from His bounty, and Allah isall-Encompassing and Knowing.
Sahih Muslim No.2542…Rasullullah SAW bersabda: Sesungguhnya syarat yang paling
berhak untuk dipenuhi ialah syarat kerananya kamu menghalalkan kemaluan wanita (syarat nikah).

Sahih Bukhari No. 4754…Syarat yg paling berhakutk kalian penuhi adalah syarat yg
dgnnya farji dihalalkan (menikah) .

Ini adalah Sunnah Nabi SAW iaitu BERNIKAH dahulu.

Nabi SAW bernikah dgn SEMUA tawanannya sebagai Isteri baginda
termasuk Maria Qibtiya walaupon beliau diberikan sebagai hadiah.


You dont know what you're talking, kalau menala tawanan perang
ni ada dlm ajaran agama Kistian yg kau sanjung sgt bak kata junjungan kita
Lord Jesus kata boleh merogol tawanan,,,

A day of the LORD is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. (Zech 14:1-2)

Kira beruntung laaa , pejuang2 Kistian  boleh menala hamba2
sebab junjungan kita Tohan Jesus dah menghalalkan ..

Malu laa skeett..





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Post time 16-2-2018 12:20 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 15-2-2018 02:53 PM
@Defcon2 tolong sam berhujah ....u kata nya martabat wanita ...tetapi kenapa wanita isle saja bukan  ...

Minah Sewel badigol purak2 tak tahu tentang kezaliman org2 Kistian Barat.

Ini bukan reka2 buat cerita tauuu macam kaper lahanat , ini FAKTA.





Kistian buat Hamba macam BINATANG.

TAK SAMA macam Islam treat slaves...

Saheeh Muslim (Book 015, Number 4082:_

Hilal b. Yasaf reported that a person got angry and slapped his slave-girl. Thereupon Suwaid b. Muqarrin said to him: You could find no other part (to slap) but the prominent part of her face. See I was one of the seven sons of Muqarrin, and we had but only one slave-girl. The youngest of us slapped her, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) commanded us to set her free.

Malik related to me from Nafi that a slave was in charge of the slaves in the khumus and he forced a slave-girl among those slaves against her will and had intercourse with her. Umar ibn al-Khattab had him flogged and banished him, and he did not flog the slave-girl because the slave had forced her. (Muwatta Imam Malik: Hudud: Book 41, Hadith 15)

Narrated Wa’il ibn Hujr: When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her. She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That (man) did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had intercourse with her and brought him to her. She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Messenger of Allah. When he (the Prophet) was about to pass sentence, the man who (actually) had assaulted her stood up and said: Messenger of Allah, I am the man who did it to her. He (the Prophet) said to her: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. But he told the man some good words (Abu Dawud said: meaning the man who was seized), and of the man who had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death. Abu Dawud said: Asbat bin Nasr has also transmitted it from Simak. Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud [Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud)] 437 In-book reference: Book 40, Hadith 29. English translation: Book 39, Hadith 4366


Your servants and your slaves are your brothers. Anyone who has slaves should give them from what he eats and wears. He should not charge them with work beyond their capabilities. If you must set them to hard work, in any case I advise you to help them.

Source:  Bukhari, Iman, 22; Adab, 44; Muslim, Iman, 38–40; Abu Dawud, Adab, 124

Jabir ibn 'Abdullah said, "The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, advised that slaves should be well-treated. He said, 'Feed them from what you eat and clothe them from what you wear. Do not punish what Allah has created.' "

Source:  Al-Adab al-Mufrad Al-Bukhari , Nr. 188.



Jgn sembang pasal Islam macam org sewel plssss..







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Post time 16-2-2018 01:11 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sofea_uk at 16-2-2018 01:13 AM
Dwdrum replied at 15-2-2018 01:05 PM
Hahahahhahaa...... siapa yang boleh bagi bukti yang nabi isa tahu agama islam itu wujud?

Hihihi...Bukan Nabi Isa a.s sahaja yg tahu agama Islam, bahkan Nabi2 sebelumnya
sudah tahu Islam telah wujud dari awal lagi..

Mereka itulah sebahagian dari Nabi-nabi yang telah dikurniakan Allah nikmat yang melimpah-limpah kepada mereka dari keturunan Nabi Adam, dan dari keturunan orang-orang yang Kami bawa (dalam bahtera) bersama-sama Nabi Nuh, dan dari keturunan Nabi Ibrahim, dan (dari keturunan) Israil- dan mereka itu adalah dari orang-orang yang Kami beri hidayah petunjuk dan Kami pilih. Apabila dibacakan kepada mereka ayat-ayat (Allah) Ar-Rahman, mereka segera sujud serta menangis.
(Maryam 19:58) |




"And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father,

if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." - New Testament (Matthew 26:39)

"And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid." - New Testament (Matthew 17:6)

"And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying," - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Genesis 17:3)

"And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped." - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Exodus 34:8)

“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Numbers 20:6)

"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Numbers 16:20-22)

And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Nehemiah 8:6)

"And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

"And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Ezekiel 9:8)




Allah telah menerangkan kepada kamu - di antara perkara-perkara agama yang Ia tetapkan hukumnya - apa yang telah diperintahkanNya kepada Nabi Nuh, dan yang telah Kami (Allah) wahyukan kepadamu (wahai Muhammad), dan juga yang telah Kami perintahkan kepada Nabi Ibrahim dan Nabi Musa serta Nabi Isa, iaitu: "Tegakkanlah pendirian agama, dan janganlah kamu berpecah belah atau berselisihan pada dasarnya". Berat bagi orang-orang musyrik (untuk menerima agama tauhid) yang engkau seru mereka kepadanya. Allah memilih serta melorongkan sesiapa yang dikehendakiNya untuk menerima agama tauhid itu, dan memberi hidayah petunjuk kepada agamaNya itu sesiapa yang rujuk kembali kepadaNya (dengan taat).

(Asy-Syuura 42:13)


Agama apa yg solat dgn kepala sujud ke tanah ???

Tak lain tak bukan, Hanyalah Islam yg sujud pada Allah SWT yg Esa.

Dan Nabi2 sebelum Nabi SAW adalah ISLAM. (submits to the will of God)





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Post time 16-2-2018 03:05 AM | Show all posts
sofea_uk replied at 15-2-2018 09:11 AM
Hihihi...Bukan Nabi Isa a.s sahaja yg tahu agama Islam, bahkan Nabi2 sebelumnya
sudah tahu Islam  ...

Apa makna pre-Islamic?
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Post time 16-2-2018 05:25 AM | Show all posts
sofea_uk replied at 15-2-2018 11:16 PM
Hihihi ... Pader Koteyjo excited sangat tak sabar konon2 nak pekena geng Muslim.
Last2 kantoi ...

iye iye..asnad,mutawatir..hadis saheeh..sunnah etc2...wahtever terms pun..malah sampai panggil "science hadis" sekalipun..gini le lah "sciencenya
Telah menceritakan kepada kami ‘Umar bin Hafsh yang berkata telah menceritakan kepada kami ayahku yang berkata telah menceritakan kepada kami Al A’masy yang berkata telah menceritakan kepada kami Abu Shalih yang berkata telah menceritakan kepadaku Abu Hurairah radiallahu ‘anhu yang berkata Nabi [shallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam] ......


wowee..hebatnyeee.."SCIENCE" hadeeesssss...mutawatir transmission asnad sunnah prrftthhhh

sebab terlalu hebat cara "mengumpul aka auta" hadis..negara maju anggap ia satu permainan budak2 chinese whisper je..bukan science pun..dah la tu..untuk prove kan how UNRELIABLEnya technic ni..

"science" konon...
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Post time 16-2-2018 07:50 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Lol...... dulu ada lobainita cakap jesus bukan isa .... sebab bible tulis jesus bukan isa ..nama lain .. sekarang cakap jesus itu isa pula.... mabuk kah apa
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Post time 16-2-2018 08:24 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Dwdrum at 15-2-2018 04:25 PM

Itu la dia Minah Bangang nak tunjuk pandai , tak baca posting org betul2
konon dtg nak back up balachi2..

My statements..post #115
Akak mengikut ajer cara pemikiran  bahalol otak Kaper lehanat, padahal akak tahu ianya
TIDAK BENAR sebab ada perbezaan diantara Marriage, Paedoplile dan Merogol Kanak2.
Hujah Kaper kena consistent, itu yg akak bawak link bideo puak2 Atheist yg buat,
Kononnya claim atheist non believer last2 sentap, meroyan bila tahu
Field Marshall God Jesus himself adalah bapak paedo dan incest ???


Hihihi... seronok akak tengok, itu baru cuit  sket ajer..

Punya la menyirap darah, Pader Mydin Vatican tangan dah menggigil2  
menaip sambil ketap2 bibir, itu yg posting sama sampai 2X…(post #91 & #92.).

nampak sgt hati dah rentong terbakar!! Hahaha..  


So kat mana yg akak kutuk nabi sendiri ???

Ini ajer ker modal yg termampu Kaper lehanat tulis padahal awal2
lagi akak dah jawab...

Dlm posting yg lepas2..i wrote this..
Ini BUKAN akak yg cakap, akak cuma sampaikan ajer.
Ini kawan2  Atheist kau yg buat bideo dan punya pemikiran macam ni !
Tongdram patut berbangga dgn keceridikan akal setitik mereka.


BTW sis…adake disebutnabi bernama Jesus didlm Al Quran ???  
Show me ??


Ko dah sandpaper muka ko ke belom??  



Waachaaa...


https://bm.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1068036&extra=&page=7&mobile=2

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Post time 16-2-2018 08:29 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
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Yeke roflol atau terkedu ??  

Skrg non believer dah tahu dan akuiladgn Hujah Kaper Atheist yg Field Marshall God
Jesus adalah  BAPAK segala Paedo dan Incest. Yes or No…let me hear you say it !!

gi mai gi mai 2x5 je ...dia kutuk agama lain terpalit katagama dan nabi dia sendiri

Terpalit???   Are you sure ??

Adake  Nabi bernamaJesus disebut dlm Al Quran???  Show me ??  

Ayat nak sedapkan hati yg terbakar rentong..

Hati terbakar didlm boleh nampak dgn cara2 posting yg takboleh nak jawab soalan2..



Kantoiii... Nampak tak satu soalan pon tak mampu nak jawab..pejuang Kisten bahalol..



Gotchaaaa..
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Post time 16-2-2018 08:32 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Lagi .....kali ini boyfriend sofea pula


Hahaha...Nak tergelak aku baca kapir2 lahanat disekolahkan oleh sis Sofea..

Betul la kata sis sofea, ramai pejuang2 Kistian pondan kat CI yg mengaku etis sebab
takut nanti agama sendiri dikecam..takbley nak jawab

Kononnya nak bawak citer bahalol Pader Medeng Vatican hujah paling kuat
pasal captain dan field marshall...alih2 sendiri menggelupor cerita dah makan tuan..


Haairrleoooluuujahh..
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Post time 16-2-2018 08:36 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
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Nabi Isa a.s yg disebut dlm Al Quran merujuk kpd Yeshua. Given name by Yahweh / Allah SWT.

Bideo Kaper lehanat Atheist tu sebut God Jesus..stick to the issue Bongokk !!  


Hujah Kaper Atheist dlm bideo tersebut, I repeat Hujah Kaper Atheist
( Not Muslim, not Christian, not Buddhist and not Hindus).


Dlm bideo Kaper Atheist specifically cakap Field Marshall (Highest Ranking) God Jesus himself
Adalah Bapak segala Paedo dan Incest berdasarkan ayat2 Bible itself. No Al Quran involved.  


NO OTHER NAMES MENTIONED. Bideo tu kawan2 Atheist kau yg buat, not Muslim,

Sepatutnya kau berbangga dan bergumbira dgn keceridikan akal setitik mereka..

still tak boleh cancel fakta yang nabi dia pun kawin andmain gauli budak kecik si mek esah tu..

So kenapa babitkan agama2 lain ???

Mana pergi FALSAMPAH  kau “ Two wrongs don’t..bla..bla..”

Agama kau mencuri lepas tu kau kata agama lain pon mencuri..gitu??

Field Marshall kau paedo, lepas tu nak tuding jari pada agama2 lain..ehhh..Islam pon ada la, eh..ehh
Buddhist pon ada paedo laaa, Hindu pon ada jugak laa..bahalol punya Atheist ..


Yg kecik2 ikan bilis nak dipertikaikan, yg besar top ranking Field Marshall paedo buat tak Nampak??


Cakap tak serupa bikin, betul punya spin auta pariah kau  niii..  



Stick to the issue, Bideo hujah Kaper Atheist tu mentioned God Jesus and the Bible..NOTHING ELSE.!!


Cirimin hadoo, cirimin ??


Gotchaaa...

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Post time 16-2-2018 08:40 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kan i sudah cakap di awal thread cakap saja YESHUA BEN YAMEN ..checkmate terus dua agama ....sudah ambil dari kitab yahudi
Bodoh memang tidak boleh diajar ia datang dengan sendiri


Hihihi...Bukan Nabi Isa a.s sahaja yg tahu agama Islam, bahkan Nabi2 sebelumnya
sudah tahu Islam telah wujud dari awal lagi..

Mereka itulah sebahagian dari Nabi-nabi yang telah dikurniakan Allah nikmat yang melimpah-limpah kepada mereka dari keturunan Nabi Adam, dan dari keturunan orang-orang yang Kami bawa (dalam bahtera) bersama-sama Nabi Nuh, dan dari keturunan Nabi Ibrahim, dan (dari keturunan) Israil- dan mereka itu adalah dari orang-orang yang Kami beri hidayah petunjuk dan Kami pilih. Apabila dibacakan kepada mereka ayat-ayat (Allah) Ar-Rahman, mereka segera sujud serta menangis.
(Maryam 19:58) |



"And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father,

if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." - New Testament (Matthew 26:39)

"And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid." - New Testament (Matthew 17:6)

"And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying," - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Genesis 17:3)

"And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped." - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Exodus 34:8)

“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Numbers 20:6)

"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Numbers 16:20-22)

And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Nehemiah 8:6)

"And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

"And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Ezekiel 9:8)




Allah telah menerangkan kepada kamu - di antara perkara-perkara agama yang Ia tetapkan hukumnya - apa yang telah diperintahkanNya kepada Nabi Nuh, dan yang telah Kami (Allah) wahyukan kepadamu (wahai Muhammad), dan juga yang telah Kami perintahkan kepada Nabi Ibrahim dan Nabi Musa serta Nabi Isa, iaitu: "Tegakkanlah pendirian agama, dan janganlah kamu berpecah belah atau berselisihan pada dasarnya". Berat bagi orang-orang musyrik (untuk menerima agama tauhid) yang engkau seru mereka kepadanya. Allah memilih serta melorongkan sesiapa yang dikehendakiNya untuk menerima agama tauhid itu, dan memberi hidayah petunjuk kepada agamaNya itu sesiapa yang rujuk kembali kepadaNya (dengan taat).

(Asy-Syuura 42:13)

Agama apa yg solat dgn kepala sujud ke tanah ???

Tak lain tak bukan, Hanyalah Islam yg sujud pada Allah SWT yg Esa.

Dan Nabi2 sebelum Nabi SAW adalah ISLAM. (submits to the will of God)


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Post time 16-2-2018 08:46 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Dwdrum at 15-2-2018 04:55 PM

Yahudi tolak isa bukan messiah ...rasa nya claimed cyrus the great messiah dengan membina semula jerusalem if not mistaken dan membawa semula yahudi ke israel dari tanah parsi ....dalam islam katanya cyrus the great itu iskandar dzulkarnain... tapi isle terpaksa setuju dengan christian yang isa itu messiah .... bagus lah .....no wonder asyik berperang .....sebab lintang pukang

Islam = al masih
Christian = resurrection

Kalau ikut hujah sam iskandar dzulkarnain tidak wujud
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Post time 16-2-2018 08:57 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 16-2-2018 07:50 AM
Lol...... dulu ada lobainita cakap jesus bukan isa .... sebab bible tulis jesus bukan isa ..nama lai ...

Hahahaha.....mungkin tertelan benda yang tak patut di telan lah tu,,,,hahahahaha

Wallahualam.
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Post time 16-2-2018 09:25 AM | Show all posts
katowjo replied at 16-2-2018 05:25 AM
iye iye..asnad,mutawatir..hadis saheeh..sunnah etc2...wahtever terms pun..malah sampai panggil "sc ...

Ha ha ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo cuba kencing lagi

Dah dimalukan dgn teramat hina pasal dok mati2 klaim
- mutawatir (multiple attestation) = isnad (chain of narration)
tapi masih dok menyondol yondol lagi dgn kenyataan kureng cerdik , nak cover line lah konon2 nya

Aku tepek apa ko bagi :
iye iye..asnad,mutawatir..hadis saheeh..sunnah etc2...wahtever terms pun..malah sampai panggil "science hadis" sekalipun..gini le lah "sciencenya
Telah menceritakan kepada kami ‘Umar bin Hafsh yang berkata telah menceritakan kepada kami ayahku yang berkata telah menceritakan kepada kami Al A’masy yang berkata telah menceritakan kepada kami Abu Shalih yang berkata telah menceritakan kepadaku Abu Hurairah radiallahu ‘anhu yang berkata Nabi [shallallahu ‘alaihi wasallam] ......


wowee..hebatnyeee.."SCIENCE" hadeeesssss...mutawatir transmission asnad sunnah prrftthhhh

sebab terlalu hebat cara "mengumpul aka auta" hadis..negara maju anggap ia satu permainan budak2 chinese whisper je..bukan science pun..dah la tu..untuk prove kan how UNRELIABLEnya technic ni..

"science" konon...
Psssst .... para in italics kat apa ko bagi adalah isnad atau chain of narration. Ia bukan mutawatir atau multiple attestation

Aku tau , aku tau ... ko mati2 tak mau mengaku salah pasal ko kononnya ko nak cover line pasal dah malu  

Ha ha ha ha ... ko memang dah malu dgn amat terhina pasal ko langsung tak ada basic ttg hadith , tambah lagi ... apa tu ... tak boleh diajar dah

Dah tua sgt , tak mampu nak belajar lagi

Last2 bila dah malu dgn begitu terhina ... 'mengumpul aka auta' pulak

He he he he .... bukti & rujukkan bo liow , yilek , pocek ... 'mengumpul aka auta' pulak

Bila dimintak mana bukti / rujukkan .... tak boleh bagi ... bawah OSA ... rahsia

Kah kah kah .... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo dah jadik macam budak tak cukup umur & akai dgn hujah yg teramat kurang cerdik  

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Post time 16-2-2018 10:03 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 16-2-2018 10:06 AM
Dwdrum replied at 16-2-2018 08:46 AM
Yahudi tolak isa bukan messiah ...rasa nya claimed cyrus the great messiah dengan membina semula jer ...

Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel & mengencing berpisah tiada

Bila dah tak mampu cakap apa2 lagi ttg hamba ... cepat2 lari ke isu lain .... pattern yg sama aje

Aku tepek apa ko cakap :
Yahudi tolak isa bukan messiah ...rasa nya claimed cyrus the great messiah dengan membina semula jerusalem if not mistaken dan membawa semula yahudi ke israel dari tanah parsi ....dalam islam katanya cyrus the great itu iskandar dzulkarnain... tapi isle terpaksa setuju dengan christian yang isa itu messiah .... bagus lah .....no wonder asyik berperang .....sebab lintang pukang

Islam = al masih
Christian = resurrection

Kalau ikut hujah sam iskandar dzulkarnain tidak wujud

Ha ha ha ha ... nampak benar pemikiran lobainita minah sewel terlampau bercelaru (pasal ada personal problem) tapi masih nak mengencing

Messiah : perkataan hebrew bermakna 'anointed one' iaitu melambangkan raja yg dipilih tuhan. Contoh , 1sam15:1 (bible NIV)
Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord.

Christ : jugak bermakna 'anointed one' tapi dlm bahasa Koine Greek. Contoh joh1:41 (Bible NIV)
The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, “We have found the Messiah” (that is, the Christ)

Al-maseeh : ia adalah perkataan arab , arabic & hebrew are sister languages , tu pasal tak banyak beza. Quran gelar dia Al-maseeh pasal pada zaman tersebut , gelaran tersebut telah dibuat kepada dia

Yg ko pusing kiri kanan ttg Cyrus lah , Iskandar Zulkarnain lah buat apa .... this shows that ko tak tau apa yg ko cakap ... Oops , mengencing lah tu.

Ni lagi best , pulak dah iskandar zulkarnain tak wujud ikut pahaman aku

Ha ha ha ha .... Kalo nak bohong aka kencing pon ... PRO lah sikit

Cuba ko baca balik , apa kenyataan aku ttg Iskandar Zulkarnain?

Lobainita minah sewel yg dah mula kencing merata ... hentam aje lah ... kan kan kan

Kah kah kah ... lobainita minah sewel yg tak paham apa dia dok cakap ... oops ... dok mengencing

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Post time 16-2-2018 10:07 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 15-2-2018 04:57 PM
Hahahaha.....mungkin tertelan benda yang tak patut di telan lah tu,,,,hahahahaha

Wallah ...

Apa boleh buat banyak sangat tertelan hingga jadi nyanyuk...
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