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Kahkahkah ....... "specialist" hadees buat "science hadees"....... kahkahkah
Bodoh betul penipu bersiri itu. Macamanalah dia boleh kata kat board sendu tu ramai yang kagum kat dia....hahahaha
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Edited by Dwdrum at 16-2-2018 05:04 PM
sam1528 replied at 16-2-2018 04:23 AM
Ha ha ... macam pondan tua aje lobainita minah sewel ni
Ceeeeh ... 'Kalau I tidak mau jawab u ...
Kan i cakap u mahu claim semua kan ?
Sudah mati akal lah tu......
Ini kali ke 2 forumer di forum tanya i apa itu islam untuk jawab soalan tentang nabi sebelum muhammad......
Macam anak u tanya soalan science kemudian u tanya apa itu science untuk jawab soalan ...
Lol..... |
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Edited by Dwdrum at 16-2-2018 05:36 PM
Pada hadith boleh pula pilih pilih pula hadith yang konon .. chain narration yang u claim accurate tiba tiba ada pula lemah ....lol...
But peristiwa isra mikraj tunggang buraq boleh pula u percaya dengan penuh iman dan perlu beriman kata nya ..
Tidak kah pelik tu....
@sam1528 |
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Ha ha ... sekali lagi terbarai yg lobai king of tunggeng katowjo & abam deeen(sengau2 slang mat salleh) , @Maideen. , kureng fasih english
Macamana korang tak tau ada phrase 'science of hadith'
Aku tau , aku tau ... pada korang , 'science' ni bermaksud duduk kat lab buat experiment ... betul tak
Jadik selama ni korang dok buat argumen berdasarkan kureng pengetahuan korang lah
Patut lah lobai king of tunggeng katowjo dok merepek pasal hadith & abam deeen ikut sekali (mengaku ada firma guaman sendiri tau)
Ini lagi lawak dari lobai king of tunggeng katowjo ,
science tu..dia bagi sumber wiki tu..ada "specialist" hadeess buat tu..sekor je
It has been described by one hadith specialist, Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti, as the science of the principles by which the conditions of both the sanad, the chain of narration, and the matn, the text of the hadith, are known
last2..dia sendiri approve..guna chain of narration juga ada..hasilnye..
multiple attestation (mutawatir) = chain of narration (isnad)
Kureng fasih english lah tu
He he he he ... meroyan lagi tu pasal 'chinese whispers' ... apa tak nya ... pahaman songsang ko :
multiple attestation (mutawtir) = chain of narration (isnad)
Kah kah kah .... terbarai dah tembelang lobai king of tunggeng katowjo & abam deeen (sengau2 slang mat salleh) ... dua2 kureng fasih english tapi ada hati nak cakap pasal hadith .... rujukkan dlm english pulak tu .... pssst lobai king of tunggeng katowjo , macamana kalo ko rujuk dlm bahasa jawa ... lepas tu pakai lah google translate
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Ha ha ... your deflection is noted lobainita minah sewel
Org berkali kali tanya ko pasal sampai skg ko tak mampu atau tak mau jawab
Pasal apa ye? Pasal apa ko takut sgt nak jawab soalan yg terlampau basic
Kah kah kah .... lobainita minah sewel takut pada bayang2 sendiri
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Edited by Dwdrum at 16-2-2018 06:10 PM
sam1528 replied at 16-2-2018 06:02 PM
Ha ha ... your deflection is noted lobainita minah sewel
Org berkali kali tanya ko pasal sampai ...
Lol.... seriously gila sam dengan hurai kan maksud islam boleh menjawab semua soalan ? ......lol.....
Hairan juga kan nabi sebelum noah sembah berhala mana kan gila sam 
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board sendu memang kagum ngan penipu bersiri..maklumlah..ajaran depa amalkan jangan guna akal dalam beragama..
takbirrrr..
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Ha ha ... lobainta minah sewel pon tumpang sekaki nak cuba support geng , lobai king of tunggeng @katowjo
Isu skg bukan ttg chain of narration lemah etc
Isu skg korang (jgn2 ko pon ada pahaman sama) ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo & abam deeen mati2 percaya & klaim
multiple attestation (mutawatir) = chain of narration (isnad)
Ha ha ha ha .... nak pecah perut aku gelak , kurang fasih english pon ada hati nak cakap pasal hadith , rujukkan dlm english pulak tu
Bila dah dimalukan dgn teramat hina , buat dek aje ... menyondol yondol cakap pasal benda salah yg sama
Ini betul2 muka tak malu ... oops lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis ni mana tau malu
Apa problem dgn buraq? Aku percaya ttg 'Isra Miraj' pasal ia adalah sebahagian dari rukun iman & ada pulak evidence
Tak sama tau macam ko percaya buta (ie. tanpa evidence) yg universe terjadik secara random & life came from nothing
Betul tak?
Ko notice tak , setiap hadith yg ko bawak kononnya nak embarrass geng muslim dah kena balik kat ko pasal ko
- kureng fasih english
- kureng pemahaman
Contoh terbaik , ko dok sibuk ttg kononnya adam kecut , jelas ko tak paham hadith tersebut ... sendiri jugak malu ... oops ko kan muka tak malu
Kah kah kah .... lobainita minah sewel kot2 lah paham ; multiple attestation (mutawatir) = chain of narration (isnad)
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Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel cub alagi nak lari
Soalan senang aje : apa tu Islam & apa tu muslim
Yg ko takut sgt nak jawab pasal apa
Ha ha ha ha .... Quran mana yg ko baca kata Nabi Noh(as) sembah berhala?
Lagi sekali aku kata , ni lah dia kalo belajar Islam dari gereja atau kuil
Kah kah kah ... lobainita minah sewel hanya mampu buat kenyataan am aje ... bila mintak bukti / rujukkan ... tak boleh bagi , bawah OSA
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Edited by Dwdrum at 16-2-2018 06:42 PM
sam1528 replied at 16-2-2018 06:29 PM
Ha ha ... lobainta minah sewel pon tumpang sekaki nak cuba support geng , lobai king of tunggeng ...
Apa problem dgn buraq? Aku percaya ttg 'Isra Miraj' pasal ia adalah sebahagian dari rukun iman & ada pulak evidence
Bawa lah...
oooo ada evidence rupa nya....
Sebab u percaya u mahu claim ia adalah benar ? |
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sam1528 replied at 16-2-2018 06:29 PM
Ha ha ... lobainta minah sewel pon tumpang sekaki nak cuba support geng , lobai king of tunggeng ...
I ada soalan pada u gila sam....
U claim ajaran islam ajaran yang benar ..... dengan mengucap syahadah di oanggil muslim....
Tuhan maha adil
Anak kafir yang di lahir kan dengan disease mati di awal umur sebelum cukup umur di anggap suci bersih dari dosa kalau di dalam islam ..
Kanak kanak begitu di masuk kan ke neraka sebab born sebagai kapir ...apa pengajaran dan purpose tuhan jadi kan mereka ?...
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Ha ha ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo dah tertekan & dgn amat terdesak mintak tolong dari abam deeen(sengau2 slang mat salleh) , @Maideen.
Mamat tu tak mampu nak tolong ko lah , dia pon kureng fasih english , macam ko
Apa tak nya , contoh terbaik pahaman dia
- Mariyah was beautiful = maria lebih cantik dari sirin
Ko pulak mati2 percaya & klaim
- multiple attestation (mutawatir) = isnad (chain of narration)
Dah lah dimalukan dgn terhina sekali , ko masih berdegil dgn kesalahan yg sama , nak kata apa .... ego tinggi pulak
Last2 meroyan penipu bersiri lah ... penipu macam ni ke ...
Last2 si penipu tu dgn rendah diri & terhina sekali mengaku ...' tak pe lah' ... macam pondan tua aje yg dah kena tangkap polis
Kah kah kah .... bagus betul pagi ni , lobai king of tunggeng katowjo kena tampar kiri kanan
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Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel dah blur
Ada evidence & testimony ...
Ko tak tau ke?
Kah kah kah .... senang macam ni pon ko tak tau ke , lobainita minah sewel
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Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel dah teramat blur
Soalan aku : apa tu Islam & apa tu muslim
Aku tak tanya macamana nak peluk ugama Islam dgn ucapan syahadah
Ha ha ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel konon nya tanya philosophical question :
Tuhan maha adil
Anak kafir yang di lahir kan dengan disease mati di awal umur sebelum cukup umur di anggap suci bersih dari dosa kalau di dalam islam ..
Kanak kanak begitu di masuk kan ke neraka sebab born sebagai kapir ...apa pengajaran dan purpose tuhan jadi kan mereka ?...
With regard to the second part, the fate of the children of the kuffaar:
The scholars differed concerning this matter, and there are several views:
That they will be in Paradise. Some of them said, they will be in al-A’raaf [a place between Paradise and Hell]. And the reason why it was said that they will be in Paradise is because this is the ultimate destiny of the people of al-A’raaf. This is the view of the majority of scholars, as reported from them by Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr in al-Tamheed, 18/96.
Their evidence (daleel):
The hadeeth of Samurah (may Allaah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw the children of the Muslims and the children of the Mushrikeen with Ibraaheem (peace be upon him). Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6640.
apa pengajaran dan purpose tuhan jadi kan mereka ?
Tapi ko lain , ko bukan nak belajar atau berusha nak cari apa2
Too bad lah , in the end kalo Allah betul2 wujud , ko dgn pendirian ko skg ... will regret it
Simple as that
Tapi org macam ko , kalo cakap pasal benda2 macam ni ... marah betul ... 'God is something personal' konon
Kah kah kah ... lobainita minah sewel berpusing nak lari pasal tak mau jawab soalan senang
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sam1528 replied at 16-2-2018 06:50 PM
Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel dah blur
Ada evidence & testimony ...
Bawa lah ... apa pun ..lol... |
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Edited by Dwdrum at 16-2-2018 07:24 PM
sam1528 replied at 16-2-2018 07:05 PM
Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel dah teramat blur
Soalan aku : apa tu Islam & apa tu muslim
Tuhan jadikan semua org supaya korang kena berusha cari kebenaran.
Tapi ko lain , ko bukan nak belajar atau berusha nak cari apa2
Too bad lah , in the end kalo Allah betul2 wujud , ko dgn pendirian ko skg ... will regret it
Simple as that
Tapi org macam ko , kalo cakap pasal benda2 macam ni ... marah betul ... 'God is something personal' konon
Kah kah kah ... lobainita minah sewel berpusing nak lari pasal tak mau jawab soalan senang
I percaya Allah itu wujud but bukan seperti penganut percaya Allah melalui agama .... Allah dan agama dua entity berbeza ..
Agama perlu kan umat untuk survive tanpa penganut agama tidak wujud .... tetapi Allah tetap wujud walau tanpa penyembah nya .. tuhan perlu sesuatu dari umat ? Sedangkan Allah ada segala galanya ...
U nampak i marah gila sam ? ..... |
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pprffthhhh...gila lah lobai tu dah start meracau macam demam kepialu dah..3-4 post sekaligus isi sama...
science hadeeessss... |
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Edited by sam1528 at 17-2-2018 03:59 PM
Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel mintak macam separuh hati aje
Tu lah , ko kureng membaca
Isra & Miraj ni senang aje kalo nak bukti , Nabi Muhammad(saw) klaim dia pergi Mesjid Al Aqsa sebelum ascension dia
Jadik bukti & testimony ttg tersebut , kita ambil dari pemergian dia ke mesjid tersebut aje lah , kalo betul , bermakna dia tak tipu ttg ascension dia
(1) Enemy's attestation (it fulfills the historical method to determine what is closest to the truth)
The narrator﴾ said that Abu Sufyan ﴿later﴾ said: "By Allah, nothing stopped me from saying something to Heraclius to make him despise ﴿Muhammad﴾ but the fact that I did not want to tell a lie that would later be found out, and he would never believe me again after that. Then I told him about the night on which he was taken on the Night Journey. I said: `O King, shall I not tell you of something from which you will know that he is lying' He said, `What is it' I said: `He claims that he went out of our land, the land of Al-Haram, in one night, and came to your sanctuary in Jerusalem, then came back to us the same night, before morning came.' The Patriarch of Jerusalem was there, standing next to Caesar. The Patriarch of Jerusalem said: `I know that night.' Caesar looked at him and said, `How do you know about this' He said, `I never used to sleep at night until I closed the doors of the sanctuary. On that night I closed all the doors except for one, which I could not manage to close. I asked my workers and others who were with me to help me deal with it, but we could not move it. It was like trying to move a mountain. So I called the carpenters, and they looked at it and said: The lintel and some part of the structure has fallen onto it. We cannot move it until morning, when we will be able to see what the problem is. So I went back and left those two doors open. The next morning I went back, and saw that the stone at the corner of the sanctuary had a hole in it, and there were traces of an animal having been tethered there. I said to my companions: This door has not been closed last night except for a Prophet, who prayed last night in our sanctuary.'''
(2) Confirmation by a third party
I stood up in Al-Hijr and Allah displayed Jerusalem in front of me, and I began describing it to them while I was looking at it."
[size=16.6966px]T5. The ‘Night Journey’ raised a good deal of stiramong the people and the sceptical audience plied Muhammad with all sorts of
questions. He told them that he saw the camels of Makkan merchants to and fro.He also guided them to some of their animals that went astray. He informed themthat he had drunk some of their water while they were fast asleep and left thecontainer covered.[size=19.9954px]5.
[size=16.6966px]The ‘NighThe disbelievers, however, found ita suitable opportunity to jeer at the Muslims and their creed. They pesteredthe Prophet [pbuh] with questions as to the description of the Mosque atJerusalem, where he had never gone before and, to the astonishment of many, theProphet’s replies furnished the most accurate information about that city. Hesupplied them with all the news about their caravans and the routes of their camels.However, all this increased in them nothing but flight from the Truth, and theyaccepted nothing but disbelief.
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 226
The Sealed Nectar (source Ibn Hisham) pg 91
Senang aje , apa Nabi Muhammad(saw) buat , iaitu solat di Mesjid Al Aqsa & teserempak dgn caravan tok arab tu semua ada pengesahan pihak ketiga.
Jadik baginda tak lah menipu. Kalo dia tak menipu , bermakna Isra Miraj betul2 terjadik.
Isu skg , you only want to believe what you want to believe. Tersebut adalah problem ko , not anyone else
Kah kah kah .... lobainita minah sewel last2 dlm keadaan nak percaya ttg apa yg dia nak percaya aje
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Ha ha ... hati kalo terbakar , sapa yg tau kan , betul tak lobainita minah sewel
I percaya Allah itu wujud but bukan seperti penganut percaya Allah melalui agama .... Allah dan agama dua entity berbeza ..
Agama perlu kan umat untuk survive tanpa penganut agama tidak wujud .... tetapi Allah tetap wujud walau tanpa penyembah nya .. tuhan perlu sesuatu dari umat ? Sedangkan Allah ada segala galanya ...
U nampak i marah gila sam ? .....
Problem skg , macamana ko nak tau ttg Allah (itu pon ko refer sebagai Allah)? Ikut suka ko aje lah macamana ko nak pikir.
Kalo macam tu , kalo ko pikir matahari tu tuhan , sembah aje lah.
Ugama adalah sesuatu tg mempunyai structure ttg kepercayaan terhadap sesuatu & mempunyai garis kepercayaan.
Ha ha ha ha .... Soalan yg ko patut tanya diri ko , apa guna Allah , pada diri ko tuhan - cipta ko?
BTW , ko percaya apa pon , is not my problem tapi kalo ko nak disprove Islam gunakan hadith , at least be honest about it ... mengencing is a no no
Bila dah kena balik .... bengang lah tu
Kah kah kah , lobainita minah sewel agnostik rupa2 nya
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