Lesson from Aceh tragedy

greekgod

Originally posted by 13Friday at 18-2-2005 02:40 PM:
now and into the eternity.


Guaranteed by JESUS

Aik.. havent jesus has left you... whilst he is now in heaven, you all now in the mortal world....

nightlord

You may be left here alone in material world but us christians have a DIRECT LINE TO OUR LORD Jesus, ring... ring...:ah:

greekgod

Originally posted by nightlord at 18-2-2005 04:50 PM:
You may be left here alone in material world but us christians have a DIRECT LINE TO OUR LORD Jesus, ring... ring...:ah:

direct call?

which god do you serve?

i've long questioning this, and this too...

what is the name of God's wife, the godly-mother of jesus?

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 7-2-2005 10:36 PM:


My response:-

There're Quranic verses stating that God doesn't choose anyone of any specific religion or race if He wants to do destruction on this planet. So it doesn't matter whether you'r ...

allah knows best...
may be he thinks that is what best for human kind...

13Friday

yes Jesus is LIVING and He can be reached whenever we pray on our knees.

He is listening and ACT according to HIS will.

KaiserPheonix

MM... Do not went far to religious mysticism here...

13Friday

GOD'S PROVIDENCE-
>
>
>  This is interesting. (A letter from a pastor in
>  Indonesia)
>  
>  "We serve a living God.
>  
>  We know that 80% of the town of Meulaboh in Aceh was
>  destroyed by the
>  Tsunami waves and 80% of the people also died. This
>  is one of the towns
>  that was hit the hardest.
>  
>  But there is a fantastic testimony from Meulaboh. In
>  that town are about
>  400 Christians.
>  
>  They wanted to celebrate Christmas on December 25th
>  but were not allowed
>  to do so by the Muslims of Meulaboh. They were told
>  if they wanted to
>  celebrate Christmas they needed to go outside the
>  city of Meulaboh on a
>  high hill and they can celebrate Christmas there.
>  
>  Because the Christians desired to celebrate
>  Christmas the 400 believers
>  left the city on December 25th and after they
>  celebrated Christmas they
>  stayed overnight on the hill.
>  
>  As we all know, in the morning of Sunday, December
>  26 -2004, there was the
>  earthquake followed by the Tsunami waves destroying
>  most of the city of
>  Meulaboh and thousands were killed. The 400
>  believers were on the
>  mountain and were all saved from destruction.
>  
>  Now the Muslims of Meulaboh are saying that the God
>  of the Christians
>  punished us for forbidding the Christians from
>  celebrating Christmas in
>  the city. Others are questioning why so many Muslims
>  died while not even
>  one of the Christians died there.
>  
>  Had the Christians insisted on their rights to
>  celebrate Christmas in the
>  city, they would have all died. But because they
>  humbled themselves and
>  followed the advice of the Muslims they all were
>  spared destruction
>  and can now testify of God's marvelous protection.
>  
>  This is a testimony of the grace of God and the fact
>  that as believers we
>  have no rights in the world. Our right is to come
>  before God and commit
>  our lives to Him. Our right is kneeling down before
>  the Lord
>  Almighty and committing our ways to Him. He is our
>  Father and is very
>  capable to care for His children. Praise the Name of
>  the Lord.
>  
>  Bill Hekman
>  Pastor, Calvary Life Fellowship in Indonesia

13Friday

but relented hence little damage was done.

Did any Christians die in M'sia?

13Friday

http://www.expat.or.id/orgs/calvarylifefellowship.html

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=149061&fpage=1

13Friday

28 CHILDREN SAVED FROM THE TSUNAMI KILLER WAVES

I commanded the waves to stop in Jesus' name and they did. It was a
miracle.

NAVALADY, Sri Lanka -- Two hundred yards away from the beach, in the
orphanage he had built, Dayalan Sanders lounged in his bed early
Sunday morning. He was thinking, he said, about the sermon he was
due to deliver in the chapel in half an hour. A few yards away, most
of the 28 children under his care were still in their rooms, getting
ready for services. Then he heard the pounding of feet in the
corridor outside his room, and his wife burst through the door, a
frantic look on her face.

"The sea is coming!" she said. "Come! Come! Look at the sea!"

Thanks to quick thinking, blind luck and an outboard motor that
somehow started on the first pull, the orphans and their caretakers
joined the ranks of countless survivors of the epic earthquake and
coastal disaster that so far has claimed the lives of an estimated
78,000 people in Sri Lanka and 11 other countries. This is their
story.

It is also the story of their chief rescuer, Sanders, a Sri Lankan-
born missionary and U.S. citizen whose mother and siblings live in
Gaithersburg, Md., where he once owned a townhouse. A member of the
country's Tamil ethnic minority, Sanders, 50, studied to be an
accountant before founding a missionary group and moving to
Switzerland in the 1980s to work with Tamil refugees displaced by
fighting between Tamil rebels and Sri Lankan government forces,
which have been observing a cease-fire since 2002.

In 1994, Sanders founded the Samaritan Children's Home in Navalady,
a small fishing village that occupies a narrow peninsula on Sri
Lanka's economically depressed east coast, about 150 miles northeast
of Colombo, the capital. He built the orphanage with donations and
money from the sale of his Maryland townhouse, he said.

With ocean on one side and a lagoon on the other, the four-acre
orphanage was a strikingly beautiful place, set in a grove of
stately palms. The children -- some of whom had lost their parents
in the civil war -- lived four to a room in whitewashed cottages
with red tile roofs, attending school in the village nearby.
Bougainvillea spilled from concrete planters.

"People used to come and take photographs of the flowers," said
Sanders, a handsome, youthful-looking man who speaks precise
idiomatic English and peppers his conversation with Scripture. "They
used to say it looked like Eden."

It was a busy, happy time at the orphanage. On Friday, the children
sang, danced and performed the Nativity scene at their annual
Christmas pageant, followed the next day by Christmas services and
dinner for 250 guests, many of them Hindus from the nearby village.
Sanders was so exhausted by his duties as host, he said, that he
went to bed early on Saturday night. He also forgot to check, as he
usually does, on whether the outboard motor had been removed from
the orphanage launch, as it was supposed to be each night as a
precaution against theft. It proved to be the luckiest mistake he
ever made.

On Sunday morning, Sanders said, he rose at his customary hour of 4
a.m. to wander the grounds and pray, then went back to bed. He woke
up again around 7:30. He recalled the stillness. Not a breath of air
stirred the surface of the sea. Small waves rolled listlessly onto
the beach, then retreated with a gentle hiss.

"It was so calm and so still," he recalled. "The surface of the
ocean was like a sheet of glass. Not a leaf moved." Two young men on
his staff wandered down to the ocean for a swim.

It isn't clear who saw the wave first. His wife, Kohila, said she
was alerted by one of the orphans, a girl who burst into the kitchen
as Kohila was mixing powdered milk for her 3-year-daughter. Kohila
ran into the brilliant sunshine and saw the building sea. Even the
color of the water was wrong: It looked, she said, "like ash."

Kohila ran to tell her husband, who told her not to panic, he
recalled. "I said, „Be calm. God is with us. Nothing will ever harm
us without His permission."'

Wrapped in a sarong, he ran outside and looked toward the ocean.
There on the horizon, he said, was a "30-foot wall of water," racing
toward the wispy casuarina pines that marked the landward side of
the beach.

With barely any time to think, let alone act, he ran toward the
lagoon side of the compound, where the launch with its outboard
motor chafed at a pier. By then, many of the children had heard the
commotion and had also run outside, some of them half dressed.
Sanders shouted at the top of his lungs, urging them all toward the
boat.

Desperate, he asked if anyone had seen his daughter, and a moment
later one of the older girls thrust the toddler into his arms.
Sanders heaved her into the boat, along with the other small
children, as the older ones, joined by his wife and the orphanage
staff, clambered aboard on their own. One of his employees yanked on
the starter cord and the engine sputtered instantly to life --
something that Sanders swears had never happened before.

"Usually you have to pull it four or five times," he said. Crammed
with more than 30 people, the dangerously overloaded launch roared
into the lagoon at almost precisely the same moment, Sanders said,
that the wall of water overwhelmed the orphanage, swamping its
single-story buildings to the rafters.

"It was a thunderous roar, and black sea," he said. As the compound
receded behind the boat, Sanders said, he watched in amazement as
the surging current smashed a garage and ejected a brand-new Toyota
pickup. "The roof came flying off -- it just splintered in every
direction," he recalled. "I saw the Toyota just pop out of the
garage."

The vehicle bobbed briefly on the surface, collided with a palm
tree -- the mark of its impact was clearly visible Wednesday -- then
slid over the edge of the compound in the torrent before slipping
beneath the rapidly rising surface of the lagoon. Another vehicle, a
maroon van, was smashed against a palm tree. A three-wheeled
motorized rickshaw parked on the property whirled around as if it
were circling a drain, Kohila Sanders recalled.

The orphans' ordeal did not end when their boat pulled away from the
shore. Not only was water cascading over the lagoon side of the
peninsula, but it also was pouring in directly from the mouth of the
estuary about two miles away. Sanders feared the converging currents
would swamp the small craft. At that point, Sanders said, he
recalled a line from the Book of Isaiah: "When the enemy comes in
like a flood, the spirit of the Lord shall raise up a standard
against it."

He raised his hand in the direction of the flood and shouted, "I
command you in the name of Jesus -- stop!" The water then seemed
to "stall, momentarily," he said. "I thought at the time I was
imagining things." With the water pouring into the mouth of the
lagoon, he then began to worry that waves would overtake them from
behind, swamping the small boat. Reasoning that it was better to hit
the waves head on, he said, he ordered the driver to reverse
direction and head back toward the open ocean.

But that maneuver carried its own risks. As it made for the mouth of
the lagoon, the boat was broadsided and nearly capsized by the
torrent pouring over the peninsula. "The children were very
frightened," Kohila Sanders, 30, recalled. "We were praying, „God
help us, God help us."'

Then it was clear God answered their prayers because the waters
began to roll back out to sea, the turbulence subsided. It was then,
Sanders and his wife recalled, that they became aware of the people
crying for help as they bobbed in the water nearby.

Eventually the boat made it to the opposite shore, about a mile and
a half distant in the city of Batticaloa. The Sanders, their
daughter and perhaps a dozen of the orphaned and now displaced
children have found temporary refuge in a tiny church; the rest have
been sent elsewhere.

The city is short of food and water, and on Wednesday afternoon,
corpses were being burned where they had been found at the edge of
the lagoon. With more than 2,000 people dead in Batticaloa district,
local officials say they lack the means to dispose of the bodies
properly and that residents are burning them as a precaution against
disease.

The scene at the orphanage was one of utter devastation. The grounds
were covered by up to three feet of sand. Several buildings,
including the staff quarters, were entirely wiped away, and the
others were damaged beyond repair. A body burned near the ruined
chapel.

Surveying the wreckage, Sanders broke down and cried. "Twenty years
of my life put in here, and I saw it all disappear in 20 seconds,"
he said between sobs. The orphanage had no insurance.

But at other moments, Sanders was philosophical about his loss. "If
there was anyone who should have got swept away by this tidal wave,
it should have been us," he said. "We were eyeball to eyeball with
the wave." Our God is an awesome God.

(Courtesy: anointed.net)

So, are you trying to say that all Christians survived the Tsunami Tragedy?

Read about the Christian victims, their numbers etc in the Indian Ocean and Acheh in this christian website.

They didn't pray? They didn't 'command' the tsunami to retreat?


http://www.barnabasfund.org/News ... e/News-20041229.htm

13Friday

Every one need to die for a purpose,

and also every one live for a purpose.


God is the Judge, and why He allowed such things.

there are many types of Christians and we need to be serious.


Thank God, for those who have survived we have share God's glory

F 13Thank God, for those who have survived we have share God's glory

So no God's glory for those who didn't survive huh?  Your religion has very limited scope.

13Friday

we all have to die but die in God's destiny in peaceful ways.

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by 13Friday at 2005-3-5 08:25 PM:
we all have to die but die in God's destiny in peaceful ways.

My response:-

How come your God didn't die peacefully? He died on a Cross - crucified!!! That was really awful. In fact he was crying for God's help. He was really terrified! Do you call that dying peacefully???

greekgod

Originally posted by 13Friday at 5-3-2005 02:25 PM:
we all have to die but die in God's destiny in peaceful ways.

woowowo... dear!

we die after god's died?

so, whose is even powerful, god or the creature?

what amazed me was that, the creatures of god, kill its own creator! Not only killed, but tortured too....

some people say, because he wants to show his love!

awful enough, did you do the same to show your love to your parent...

and if jesus is god, then why there is the need for him to pray for the father.. some verses also mentioned that "jesus prayed to god", and some mentioned that "jesus prayed to the father".

why jesus need to call god as god, if the god is his father....

does he feels pain when he was crucified? ah... poor god, has to feel pain that he created purposely for human... again poor god, he has to take away his own soul... what a poor god again, when he can be humiliated...

and what a poor you, believing in paul, who become ficticious story writer!

what amazed me was that, the creatures of god, kill its own creator! Not only killed, but tortured too....

and he live again on the third day...

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 5-3-2005 09:03 PM:


My response:-

How come your God didn't die peacefully? He died on a Cross - crucified!!! That was really awful. In fact he was crying for God's help. He was really terrified! Do you call that dying peacefully???

jesus was terrified?? don't think so...

Baiduri Othman

He was terrified! You can check your Bible on Crucifixation. Sonny has posted the verses several times in the forum.