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ILMU PERUBATAN MUDAH: DIABETES TYPE 3c

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Post time 4-11-2017 09:05 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by ipes2 at 6-11-2017 06:18 PM

Ada banyak jenis Diabetes Mellitus (DM), tetapi yang selalu diketahui umum hanyalah Type 1 dan Type 2 (T1DM dan T2DM). Malah, ramai yang salahfaham beza T1DM dan T2DM. Type 3 ada beberapa jenis, dan Type 3c ie T3cDM, adalah kerana kerosakan pancreas itu sendiri.

Lebih kurang 5% dari DM adalah dari T3c. Ini termasuklah kerana kerosakan pancreas kerana alcohol, tumors, cancers, dan surgery. Pesakit pesakit T3cDM memerlukan insulin kerana pancreas mereka tidak lagi mampu membuat insulin dengan cukup.

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Post time 5-11-2017 08:29 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Pankreas rosak/hampir rosak boleh pulihkan semula tak?
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Post time 5-11-2017 11:25 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ada satu lg Dr ipes2,

Late onset
dM3 - dimentia
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Post time 6-11-2017 07:43 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Good info
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 Author| Post time 6-11-2017 06:24 PM | Show all posts
jenglut replied at 5-11-2017 11:25 PM
Ada satu lg Dr ipes2,

Late onset

ye saya tahu pasal ini.. sy ada tulis pasal ini di dlm thread somewhere.
jenis ini tidak diiktiraf setakat ini oleh IDF atau ADA atau EASD.
mungkin suatu hari nnt ianya boleh di revise, tetapi dari segi research and molecular basisnya, jika ianya diiktiraf pon, ia akan diberi klasifikasi yg berbeza kerana T3DM dah ada byk subsections nya dan pathophysiology subsections ini adalah jelas.

late-Onset, LADA dan Type 1.5 sy rasa sy dah cover somewhere di dalam replies sy pada somebody 3-4 years ago.
late-onset, in itself, tidaklah kerana pathophysiology dari segi classificationnya
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Post time 7-11-2017 08:39 AM | Show all posts
jenglut replied at 5-11-2017 11:25 PM
Ada satu lg Dr ipes2,

Late onset

apa maksudnya...
care to explain
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Post time 7-11-2017 10:24 AM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 6-11-2017 06:24 PM
ye saya tahu pasal ini.. sy ada tulis pasal ini di dlm thread somewhere.
jenis ini tidak diiktira ...

Ohh ok Tq very much 👍 dr Ipes
Sy tertinggal keretapi
Da lama tak jenguk sini huhuh
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Post time 7-11-2017 10:41 AM | Show all posts
monreyes replied at 7-11-2017 08:39 AM
apa maksudnya...
care to explain

DM3 yg sy maksudkan tu ialah nyanyuk/dimentia atau alzheimer
Yg ni sbb inflammtion of brain sbb hi-blood glucose
Brain cell pun need energy which is glucose
Tp terlampau byk expose to sugar, bole inflamed (plaque) & dev insulin resistant pd brain
Brain exhausted thus effect memory function


Yg Dr Ipes punya thread ni Diabetes t3c
Yg ni pancreas itself yg malfunction - organ yg secrete insulin haywire
Gitu la kira2 nya
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Post time 7-11-2017 11:04 AM | Show all posts
my mom 84 yrs old...
takde kencing manis...
sesekali ada low bp...
tapi dia dah develop penyakit lupa...
suka tanya mende yg sama berulang2.....
dah ada sikit2 simptom x kenal org...
tapi lepas tu dia ingat balik...
yg tu kenapa ye...
arwah nenek i xde cam tu pun...
risau pulak i...

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Post time 7-11-2017 12:07 PM | Show all posts
monreyes replied at 7-11-2017 11:04 AM
my mom 84 yrs old...
takde kencing manis...
sesekali ada low bp...

mcm org gout, doesnt come with diabetesTp eventually bole dev diabetesM


Ada org mkn manis2, tp tak gemuk pun..
Ada org mkn manis, tp cpt gemuk


Ada org gemuk, cholestrol level ok
Ada org kurus with hi cholestrol


Sama la mcm alzheimer..
Sbb pemakanan & genetic manusia setiap individu berbeza2


Those are only one of the many symptoms of hi sugar intake


Kene ingat2 balik sejarah2 lampau corak pemakanan dlm famili u


What i can tell u, refined sugar sythetic ni mother of all evil/illness/metabolic disease
Kalau takde this kinda gula, medic ppl tak bole cari mkn..farmasi bole bungkus..all those alternatif produk pun hilang
Tats y, they hide the cause
Kene baca balik la sejarah 'gula'
And biasa la, ramai yg tak percaya ..terpulang pd masing2


Its your own body
U r what u eat

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Post time 7-11-2017 12:49 PM | Show all posts
jenglut replied at 7-11-2017 12:07 PM
mcm org gout, doesnt come with diabetesTp eventually bole dev diabetesM

...

gula mmg culprit...
i truly agree....
asian ni particularly malaysian..
segalanya manis dan lemak berkrim...
herannya diabetic control among mat salleh bagus pulak...
padahal mereka pun byk juga makan dessert..cakes...chocolate...waffles

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Post time 7-11-2017 01:59 PM | Show all posts
monreyes replied at 7-11-2017 12:49 PM
gula mmg culprit...
i truly agree....
asian ni particularly malaysian..

Tgk tempat gak..tgk culture


Kalau mat salleh, lain plak kisah nya..diorg consume Sugar tinggi jg but thru alcohol
Effect gula & alcohol sama je...tu pasal tgk belly fat org kaki todi sama je dgn org yg suka minum/mkn manis

Lain pula dgn mat salleh di Mediterranean, ni hi fat diet - healthy diet, takde plak byk kes cvd/chd..kat mesia plak terbalik, media ckp jgn mkn hi fat..actually should go for healthy fat

Sama mcm asian contries, cuba tgk kat japan/korea punya spital..tak penuh pt mcm kat mesia..byk offer cosmetic service utk buat duit sbb tak ramai org kene metabolic disease...tgk plak cara mkn dia..mkn nasi jg..tp hi source protien from seafood..ok je takde gout pun..kita kat sini, sebok advice ppl jgn mkn seafood hi purine..

Banding kan plak dgn kita or arab countries..mkn nasi jg..tp process food..kuih muih..air manis - air buah teh tarik sirap bandung limau ais..mesti ramai order time mkn..air gas pun ada jual kat skolah..

Its level of our education

Raja gula pun panjang umur
Kita yg muda2 ni jatuh sakit sbb beli gula byk sgt dgn dia
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Post time 9-11-2017 12:56 PM | Show all posts
@ipes2
sy ade check FBS beberapa hari lepas , bacaan dalam 6.3 .. tu first time sy check mase fasting.. kalau sbelum2 ni , random blood sugar dlm 5.0 jee .. is that consider as pre diabetic ke ?? sy jadik takut nak mkn nasi atau minum yg manis ...
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 Author| Post time 11-11-2017 01:11 PM | Show all posts
ainsabrina replied at 9-11-2017 12:56 PM
@ipes2
sy ade check FBS beberapa hari lepas , bacaan dalam 6.3 .. tu first time sy check mase fast ...

fbs tu kira elevated la
tunggu la 4-6 minggu, jaga makan leklok
then buat la ogtt
(alah, dont eat anything from midnight, amik blood dari vein kol 0800, minum lucozade sebotol gituh, amik blood lagi kol 1000)

kurang kan nasi, kuih kuih, roti putih, apa apa yg manis..
(kurangkan, bukan ekstrim cam some ppl yg benti terus)
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Post time 11-11-2017 11:31 PM | Show all posts
Salam Dr. Ipes.

Saya nak tanya. Ubat untuk diabetic patients nama dia 'Trajenta Duo' ni bagus ke? Thanks in advance.

@ipes2

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Post time 13-11-2017 02:31 AM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 11-11-2017 01:11 PM
fbs tu kira elevated la
tunggu la 4-6 minggu, jaga makan leklok
then buat la ogtt

maseh tgh cube kurg kn semua yg manis2 ni

thanks a lot, dr ipes
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 Author| Post time 15-11-2017 03:17 AM | Show all posts
WhiskeyScotch replied at 11-11-2017 11:31 PM
Salam Dr. Ipes.

Saya nak tanya. Ubat untuk diabetic patients nama dia 'Trajenta Duo' ni bagus ke ...

Waalaikumussalam WS,

Trajenta ni ialah Linagliptin. Linagliptin ialah sejenis ''Gliptins''. Gliptins ialah geng geng DPP4 inhibitors. Secara ringkas nya, DPP4i ini adalah mujarab, dan agak mahal. Kami tambah DPP4i kepada mereka yg perlu ubat kedua bagi Diabetes mereka.

Bila Linagliptin ini di combine dengan Metformin, di Asia ianya di panggil Trajenta Duo. Di negara kami ianya dinamai Jentadueto. Ini adalah mujarab, cuma mahal.

Linagliptin ini masih boleh digunakan biarpun kidneys seseoarng sudah rosak kerana Diabetes nya ( Gliptins lain eg Saxagliptin, Vildagliptin, Sitagliptin, Alogliptin perlu dihenti bila tiba suatu tahap).

Harap info ini membantu
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 Author| Post time 15-11-2017 03:18 AM | Show all posts
ainsabrina replied at 13-11-2017 02:31 AM
maseh tgh cube kurg kn semua yg manis2 ni

thanks a lot, dr ipes

..sy pun samalah..
..tak manis maka tak sedap..
tak makan nasi je, sy rasa mcm tak kenyang
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Post time 15-11-2017 04:20 PM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 15-11-2017 03:17 AM
Waalaikumussalam WS,

Trajenta ni ialah Linagliptin. Linagliptin ialah sejenis ''Gliptins''. Gli ...

Sangat-sangat membantu penjelasan Dr. ni. Thank you so much.
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 Author| Post time 16-11-2017 06:28 AM | Show all posts
WhiskeyScotch replied at 15-11-2017 04:20 PM
Sangat-sangat membantu penjelasan Dr. ni. Thank you so much.

sama sama dan u r very welcome WS.
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