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Post time 18-1-2019 09:31 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 03:02 AM
Kenapa u butthurt sangat ?..... tanpa kun faya kun cloning sudah berjaya....biological clock sudah ...

hang la hangat duboq......bowdow...PERCAYA teori evolusi....lepaih tu tak mau mengaku...dwdumbass bowdow......wakakakakkakakakakaka
kawan2 boleh lihat dwdumbass sudah hangat duboq butthurt sebab dia PERCAYA teori evolusi tok nenek moyang dia berasai dari duboq beruk...bestialiti...wakkakaakkakaka




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Post time 18-1-2019 10:57 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 18-1-2019 10:58 AM
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 03:02 AM
Kenapa u butthurt sangat ?..... tanpa kun faya kun cloning sudah berjaya....biological clock sudah ...

cloning stem cells u pergi ke arah specific sangat
cloning therapeutic

but kalau human cloning etc
nilaian secular berdasarkan KEJAYAAN sahaja  atau ayat  ; tanpa kun  faya kun' ( berani ye a manusia  - wow - u reminded me of teh day of alastu  - - i wish hidayah untuk you ...) tak dapat mengatasi persoalan etika dan moral berkenaan cloning secara am ...
u pandai  sebab u tahu bidang you -  u go for stemcell

tapi clining per se in general

not therapeutic cloning yg produce stem cells  - akan jadi isu moral dan ethics


What are the potential drawbacks of cloning animals?
Reproductive cloning is a very inefficient technique and most cloned animal embryos cannot develop into healthy individuals. For instance, Dolly was the only clone to be born live out of a total of 277 cloned embryos. This very low efficiency, combined with safety concerns, presents a serious obstacle to the application of reproductive cloning.
Researchers have observed some adverse health effects in sheep and other mammals that have been cloned. These include an increase in birth size and a variety of defects in vital organs, such as the liver, brain and heart. Other consequences include premature aging and problems with the immune system. Another potential problem centers on the relative age of the cloned cell's chromosomes. As cells go through their normal rounds of division, the tips of the chromosomes, called telomeres, shrink. Over time, the telomeres become so short that the cell can no longer divide and, consequently, the cell dies. This is part of the natural aging process that seems to happen in all cell types. As a consequence, clones created from a cell taken from an adult might have chromosomes that are already shorter than normal, which may condemn the clones' cells to a shorter life span. Indeed, Dolly, who was cloned from the cell of a 6-year-old sheep, had chromosomes that were shorter than those of other sheep her age. Dolly died when she was six years old, about half the average sheep's 12-year lifespan.

ini yg menyokong bu pada I - still under study ....depa pun kata dalam kajian..

scientific american kata okay - depa ni prpponets gang mana? ade pihak yg  menyokong  ade yg menentang basd on interest?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/send-in-the-clones-cloned-mammals-are-just-as-healthy-as-their-natural-counterparts/
https://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/animalcloning/ucm055512.htm


Myth: When clones are born, they’re the same age as their donors, and don’t live long.
Clones are born the same way as other newborn animals: as babies. No one really knows what causes aging in mammals, but most scientists think it has to do with a part of the chromosome called a telomere that functions as a kind of clock in the cell. Telomeres tend to be long at birth, and shorten as the animal ages.
A study on Dolly (the famous sheep clone) showed that her telomeres were the shorter length of her (older) donor, even though Dolly was much younger. Studies of other clones have shown that telomeres in clones are shorter in some tissues in the body, and are age-appropriate in other tissues. Still other studies of clones show that telomeres are age-appropriate in all of the tissues. Despite the length of telomeres reported in different studies, most clones appear to be aging normally. In fact, the first cattle clones ever produced are alive, healthy, and are 10 years old as of January 2008.

studies still tak consistent





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Post time 18-1-2019 10:59 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Wassap replied at 17-1-2019 03:30 PM
Adakah asal manusia dari babi dan beruk ?  Dah dua2 boleh diguna utk itu ? Kenapa atheist pilih  ...

Atheist pilih beruk ? ....... u belajar di sekolah cikgu science u ajar bagaimana yea atau belajar sekadar mahu pass exam ?
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:00 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Wassap replied at 17-1-2019 03:36 PM
Kuda pun ada berbeza blood type....anjing , kucing pun begitu juga.....bukan terhad pada manusia ...

I tanya apa bukti yang buat kan u rasa agama betul ?
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:02 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Wassap replied at 17-1-2019 03:47 PM
Sebelum manusia jumpa tulang dinosaur tentu atheist dan saintis ketika itu anggap dinosaur tak per ...

Al quran sendiri tidak peenah mentioned tentang kewujudan dinosaur ..... hanya pgilosophy ...tiada nyata kan bukti yang lengkap .....
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:03 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Remyda replied at 17-1-2019 03:50 PM
Bukan hang tanya ka. Aku cuma menjawab pertanyaan & kemusykilan hang.

La habis itu yea ye jah copy ..... takkan u jenis angguk angguk copypaste jah bila beehujah ....no wonder ....
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:05 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:03 AM
La habis itu yea ye jah copy ..... takkan u jenis angguk angguk copypaste jah bila beehujah ....no ...

Bila kita dah bagi sumber sahih. Hang Pusing cakap ikut lain pulak



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Post time 18-1-2019 11:07 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Wassap replied at 17-1-2019 03:51 PM
Kepercayaan atheist yg ada flaw ....sebab yg hampir sama hanya pada dna sedangkan tubuh badan dan in ...

If ada flaw  ...... athies kepercayaan pada evolusi awal manusia modern sajakah ?......... seperti i cakap sebelum ini ..... u sendiri tidak boleh kan agama adalah benar dari tuhan ?
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:08 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Tidak siapa boleh bukti kan syurga neraka ? ....or ada disini akan cakap tunggu mati nanti baru tahu ?
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:12 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 17-1-2019 06:57 PM
cloning stem cells u pergi ke arah specific sangat
cloning therapeutic


Manusia born ada yang tidak perfect .....immunisation manusia semakin hari semakin berkurangan ..... itu based kalau i ambil di agama ....kata nya ummur nabi boleh mencapai beribu tahun ..... u mahu sambung story thread lepas tentang manusia born dajjah mata satu ? .... story dari agama diambil dari agama yahudi tentang makhluk gergasi mata satu .....
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:12 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:02 AM
Al quran sendiri tidak peenah mentioned tentang kewujudan dinosaur ..... hanya pgilosophy ...tiada ...

Bila hang cuba nak berhujah. Hang suruh pihak lain bentangkan ulasan beserta bukti.

Bila hang dah nampak bukti kami lampirkan. Hang pusing lagi. Pusing selagi boleh pusing

Pegangan Islam sebenar berlandaskan Al - Qur'an & Hadith. Sudah tentu itu sewajibnya rujukan seorang Muslim. Macam Kristian sendiri. Mereka berlandaskan Bible. Mereka sendiri juga menolak kepercayaan hang.

Berbalik kepada soalan hang, Dalam Al - Qu'an juga memang ada sebut memang telah wujud hidupan lain sebelum manusia.
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:12 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:00 AM
I tanya apa bukti yang buat kan u rasa agama betul ?

apa bukti kalau i buat ayat ini
makan abu kerang  

versus


abu makan kerang


apa bukti  yg buat you rasa ayat 1 vs ayat 2 tu salah ?


kalau u tak belajar linguistik pun


apa bukti

u tahu

sejauh mana dapatan data saintifik dapat merujuk sesuatu itu representative of whole situations?


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Post time 18-1-2019 11:13 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 17-1-2019 06:57 PM
cloning stem cells u pergi ke arah specific sangat
cloning therapeutic


Cloning sudah di buat ...kalau u ada kucing mahu clone boleh buat sudah sekarang cost usd 100k
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:14 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:08 AM
Tidak siapa boleh bukti kan syurga neraka ? ....or ada disini akan cakap tunggu mati nanti baru tahu ...

ade bukti tak api dalam dunia ni

ade bukti tak suhu api berapa dalam dunia ni?


ada bukti tak yg electromangentic wave ade pelbagai spectrum?



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Post time 18-1-2019 11:15 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
CharlesDera replied at 17-1-2019 05:31 PM
hang la hangat duboq......bowdow...PERCAYA teori evolusi....lepaih tu tak mau mengaku...dwdumbass  ...

Hujah di sini apa yang u boleh buat untuk i percaya agama? ...selain meratib duboq ?  Non believers sceptic tentang agama yang di claimed adalah dari tuhan....hang bolwh buktikan mukjizat nabi hang adalah benar? ...agama langit kan meteorite pun di angkat sebagai batu syurga ....
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:15 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:13 AM
Cloning sudah di buat ...kalau u ada kucing mahu clone boleh buat sudah sekarang cost usd 100k

buat tak buat itu bukan jawapan

tapi ethical issues raised

cloning kucing  ni untuk menjawab soalan i ke?

tak juga
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:17 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:12 AM
Manusia born ada yang tidak perfect .....immunisation manusia semakin hari semakin berkurangan ... ...

provide  me the source

give me the text dan source of the text including the narrators

and you just take that point blank  statement macam tu je?


dah sinthesis semua text ke?




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Post time 18-1-2019 11:18 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Bercakap tentang ethics cloning ....selama siapa yang melalak protest ? ..... dan tentang cern ? ..... hypocrite sangat minta bukti tetapi research di buat yang beragama inilah melalak lebih konon nya melanggar hukum tuhan ....
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Post time 18-1-2019 11:20 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:15 AM
Hujah di sini apa yang u boleh buat untuk i percaya agama? ...selain meratib duboq ?  Non believer ...

bukan untuk buat tapi nak tunjukkan kelemahan pemikiran you

yg berdasarkan kerangkan empirical dan kerangka you guna tak mampu menjawab persoalan yg bersifat spritual cognition


u tak boleh jawab

abu kerang makan

versus ayat

abu makan kerang


mengapa ayat 1 tu  apa beza dengan ayat kedua  dan kenapa ayat kedua  tu rasa lain?




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Post time 18-1-2019 11:22 AM | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 18-1-2019 11:18 AM
Bercakap tentang ethics cloning ....selama siapa yang melalak protest ? ..... dan tentang cern ? ... ...

ini dah emotion dan judgemental

org nak tunjuk u guna pendekata salah bila nak gunakan sains dalam memahami agama
sebba  setajat mana had sains ialah dapatan data tu dan proses ukuran
itu hadnya


tapi kenapa tak leh jawab


abu apel makan


versus


abu makan apel



kalau tak belajar linguistik pun

memana nausia tahu yat jedua betul?

kenapa?


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