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Author: FOTHER-MUCKER

[Tempatan] Muftis’ support for ‘kafir’ and the silence that follows.

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Post time 16-3-2019 09:30 AM | Show all posts
Sebab ade ekonomi kapir laknat supply cukai barulah lobai2 duduk senang lenang sembang besar kehilir kapir kehulur kapir, cuba mundur macam pilipina dan indo kena jadi kuli batak tengok ada senang duduk dpt gaji buta sembang kuat lagi?
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Post time 16-3-2019 09:36 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
v(T.T)v replied at 16-3-2019 09:18 AM
Agama lain muncul jauh lebih lama dari agama tersebut, heran tak habis habis orang lain jadi kayu  ...

Keh keh..yahudi, kristian dan Islam share tuhan, konsep agama dan hukum  y sama
Agama samawi kot..tapi agama samawi previous2 dh diputar belit

So ape y agama baru?
Sepet kulup belaja xhabis kah?
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Post time 16-3-2019 09:39 AM | Show all posts
Edited by v(T.T)v at 16-3-2019 09:42 AM
Victorioussss replied at 16-3-2019 09:36 AM
Keh keh..yahudi, kristian dan Islam share tuhan, konsep agama dan hukum  y sama
Agama samawi kot. ...

Pak Ereb masih dlm jahiliah ketika tamadun2 lain sudah beribuan tahun.


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Post time 16-3-2019 09:46 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
v(T.T)v replied at 16-3-2019 09:39 AM
Pak Ereb masih dlm jahiliah ketika tamadun2 lain sudah beribuan tahun.

Tamadun Islam maju. Zaman abassiyah, uthmaniyah, zaman iraq dari ibnusina smpai al khawarizmi sume pelopor ilmu dan tamadun skg. Pergi belajar sejarah genghis khan raid dunia dan bakar buku2 tulisan ilmuan arab Islam. Kitab ibnusina smpai skg jd rujukan kt oxford dn harvard med

Sepet..bodoh dari nenek moyang dapat kt u, kasi simpan sikit la jgn tunjuk habis
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 Author| Post time 16-3-2019 09:51 AM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 15-3-2019 05:52 PM

Nampak tak senangnya lobai tertipu dengan propaganda!
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Post time 16-3-2019 10:08 AM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 16-3-2019 08:32 AM
Arabic Root of the Word Kafir
The word ‘Kafir’ comes from the root ‘KFR’ (to cover, something c ...

Ok betul lah ni.... istilah kafir ni pun asalnya bukannya istilah yang menghinakan

Tapi problem dengan lobai ni meraka melihat  kafir dengan pandangan negative. Itu yang tak bagusnya.


Itu cara penyampaian mereka... tak semua orang boleh terima, apatah lagi yang bukan Islam.

Kalau dah tahu kata akarnya bukanlah menghina, patutnya tak timbul isu besar lah.

Dan juga waktu ceramah agama di mesjid suka memburukan agama lain, suka membandingkan agama lain dengan agama islam.


Saya kurang bersetuju dengan cara penyampaian memburukkan agama lain, mungkin itu reaksi mereka bila isu sensitif pasal agama disentuh...

Pihak anti-Islam pun memburukkan dan memfitnah Islam dengan teruk, dalam forum pun dah banyak boleh lihat...kan?

Apa yang tak betul boleh cuba perbetul dengan baik.... istilah kafir bukannya untuk menghinakan, tapi kalau penggunaan istilah ini tidak disukai, orang Islam eloklah cuba elak guna istilah ni bila berhadapan dengan bukan Islam. Dalam ceramah tu biasa sebab bukan ditujukan berhadapan dengan bukan Islam



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 Author| Post time 16-3-2019 10:09 AM | Show all posts
batmana replied at 15-3-2019 05:23 PM
Ko ni fitnah aja yg tau
Cube bagi 1 nama lebai.ic, nama.tmpt tinggal lebai tu dlm sni?

Fitnah? Tipikal lobai tak boleh menerima kebenaran.
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Post time 16-3-2019 10:21 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Eh, kau ajelah yg jadi mofti rasdi. Semua kau yang pandai kan? semua nak ikut akal kau aje kan. Semak betullah orang macam ni. Banyak benda lain nak kena pikirlah samdol
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Post time 16-3-2019 10:30 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
v(T.T)v replied at 16-3-2019 09:30 AM
Sebab ade ekonomi kapir laknat supply cukai barulah lobai2 duduk senang lenang sembang besar kehilir ...

Wah, wah wah. Sombong dan angkunya kau ye. Jangan besok segala job aktiviti ekonomi yang diberikan kepada kaum kau untuk tujuan menyara kehidupan kaum kau kat tanah melayu ni ditarik balik oleh tuhan. Masa tu baru kau tau langit tinggi rendah. Kalau dulu datang tanah melayu takda apa, sekarang dah kaya raya siap claim korang yang kasi makan kat semua orang. Apa mustahilnya kalau korang kembali keadaan macam dulu kan?
Sekarang ni memyombonglah puas-puas ye to show your true color.
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Post time 16-3-2019 11:22 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Terasa kena panggil kafir ke? Kesiaannn
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Post time 16-3-2019 11:25 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Non believer: kuffar
Kafir

Apa yg butthurtt sgt?

Aku lama kawan dgn atheists. Kalau ramai2 pun duduk mengutuk believers juga (tak kira agama apa). Korang tapau kutuk kaw2 kata believers are silly etc etc.
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Post time 16-3-2019 11:28 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
v(T.T)v replied at 16-3-2019 09:20 AM
Alamak,  gaji sendiri  banyak datang dari  cukai kapir lakhanat,  tak malu perasan suchee gelar oran ...

Alamak, cukai kau bayar tu celah gigi je claim mcm byk sgt. Ramai yg tipu dan lari cukai tanak cakap? Ramai yg tak layak jd warganegara, tanak sembang?

Itu je la modal ungrateful bastard alikes
Cukai je ratib sampai mati.
Macam banyak nauuuuuu


Phuuuuuuiii!!
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Post time 16-3-2019 11:30 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
All of sudden, so sensitive...


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Post time 16-3-2019 11:34 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Apabila mereka merasa' PUAS,BERKUASA DAN BENAR BELAKA'.Dan mereka pon fikir betapa hebatnya mereka......
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Post time 16-3-2019 12:04 PM | Show all posts
nak kami guna 'ghoyim' juga ke?

#tanyaje
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Post time 16-3-2019 12:05 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 16-3-2019 08:32 AM
Arabic Root of the Word Kafir
The word ‘Kafir’ comes from the root ‘KFR’ (to cover, something c ...

Apa lah ko ni lobai mat very very very slow v2

Kalo ko nak copy paste pon , bagi link tersebut supaya org boleh baca & paham keseluruhan

Ko takut bagi link tersebut pasal ko nak cover isu yg kantoikan ko

Ni dia link tersebut & the first paragraph :
One of the common confusions regarding the understanding of Islam in the English language, is namely the use of the Arabic word ‘Kafir’. The problem has arisen because some Muslims and (most) non-Muslims lack understanding of Quranic idiom and confuse and misunderstand how the Quran contains recurring Arabic words that have different meanings in different places despite being the same word.

Islamophobes like to capitalise on this by falsely accusing Muslims using the word ‘Kafir’ in its legal sense when referring to people who do not call themselves a Muslim, as ‘using derogatory words for non-Muslims’, and when Muslim theologians discuss the punishment for kufaar (plural of Kafir) in the hereafter, Islamophobes ignorantly accuse them of ‘condemning all non-Muslims on earth to hell’.

Additionally, some people who are not Arabic speakers nor educated in the nuances of Quranic Arabic get confused when those self same theologians discuss the punishment for ‘kufaar’ in the afterlife, but also explain in the same breath that merely being currently a ‘non-Muslim’ or ‘non-believer’ doesn’t mean someone will end up in hell. So what’s going on? The confusion lies in lacking an understanding of the Quranic terminology and its use of identical Arabic words to mean different meanings in different sentences.

Senang aje : 'kafir' bermakna 'to cover'

What is sooo derogratory of the term?

Isu sebenarnya org macam ko yg tak paham perkataan tersebut dok heboh kehulu kehilir 'derogatory' ... 'derogatory' ... 'derogatory'

Lain lah dgn perkataan 'Infidel' ; originally perkataan tersebut adalah a 'derogatory term for muslims' (those days were called Saracen)
... Originally "a non-Christian" (especially a Saracen); later "one who does not believe in religion, disbeliever in religion generally" (1520s)...

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Post time 16-3-2019 12:38 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kafir dan infidel....aku rasa infedel lagi kasar bunyi. So non muslim....relax. kafir tu dah sesuai sangat la.
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Post time 16-3-2019 12:54 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Nak melabel label orang tu tanda nya dah buat contrasting. Tak kisahlah apa maksud nya. Dah ada perbezaan mark itu ini la sebab ada pecah belahan perkauman, religious. Perang sana sini itu pun makhluk2 bodo ni tanak nampak.
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 Author| Post time 16-3-2019 04:07 PM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 16-3-2019 01:25 AM
sam1528 replied at 15-3-2019 08:05 PM
Apa lah ko ni lobai mat very very very slow v2

Kalo ko nak copy paste pon , bagi link tersebut  ...

Apa bila lobai bodoh mulut besar otak kecil yang tak faham tetiba nak comment!

Dah lah samdol nak tunjuk kau tu cerdik tetapi kebodohan yang kau tunjukan dahulu!
Tiada siapa pun cakap salah apa yang saya copypaste tu. nak tunjuk cerdik konon?
Disini samdol linknya. https://abdullahalandalusi.com/2016/05/05/the-quranic-use-of-the-word-kafir/










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 Author| Post time 16-3-2019 04:28 PM | Show all posts
batmana replied at 15-3-2019 05:23 PM
Ko ni fitnah aja yg tau
Cube bagi 1 nama lebai.ic, nama.tmpt tinggal lebai tu dlm sni?

Memang non Moslem terutamanya orang kristian tak tersinggung dipanggil kafir kerana mereka tak bodoh dan tak kaki sentap seperti lobai. Mereka yakin dan percaya pada tohan mereka sepenuhnya, sebab itu jika sesiapa mengutuk Christ ataupun Christianity pun mereka tak ambil kisah
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