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[Tempatan] Adib di bunuh di IJN ? UPDATE akta "assault" di spin AG ..dari post #

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Edited by blastoff at 1-4-2019 09:37 PM

Aku akan beri bukti melalui statement2 yg di buat oleh doktor2 pakar di SJMC dan IJN sendiri, utk tunjukkan adib sengaja di biarkan dari teruk hingga jadi kepada kritikal lalu terlambat utk di tolong lagi dah.

Point yg penting adalah dia sengaja tidak di beri alat ( ECMO) yg paling kritikal yg di perlukannya hingga membawa kepada kematiannya di IJN.

ok let's start ......jeng jeng jeng

Mula2 adib diihantar ke SJMC pada 27 hb nov .............emergency physician situ kata dia alami kecederaan paru2 yg teruk .....melalui x ray scan dikesan retak dari 2nd hingga 5th rib dan juga terdapat lung bruising.

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                    Adib was gasping for air and unable to talk, says doctor   
                        HANIS ZAINAL        
  21/2/2019


SHAH ALAM: Fireman Muhammad Adib Mohd Kassim (pic) was gasping for air and unable to talk when brought into the emergency room at Subang Jaya Medical Centre (SJMC) early in the morning of Nov 27, says the first doctor to treat him.
After examination, the 24-year-old was found to be suffering from lung injuries, said emergency physician Dr M. K. Nantha Kumeran on day eight of the inquest into the death of Muhammad Adib, who was badly injured in the line of duty near the Seafield Sri Maha Mariamman Temple on Nov 27, 2018.
The doctor, the 12th witness called be called in, told the coroner's court that he first saw Muhammad Adib as he was being wheeled into the emergency room.
"He was gasping for air as he had difficulty breathing, was unable to talk and was making incomprehensible sounds," he said.
Muhammad Adib's blood pressure was at 85/46, which was low by normal standards, Dr Nantha Kumeran said.
The fireman's oxygen saturation was also below normal at 48%, he added.

He said that he ordered an X-ray scan on the fireman after seeing a large bruise on his upper right chest.
"And when I touched (his chest) I could hear cracking sounds.
"(At that time) I was looking towards (him having) pneumothorax," he said, adding that the term meant that there was air or blood between his chest wall and his lung.
Dr Nantha Kumeran said he and an anaesthetist also started intubating Muhammad Adib to help him breathe.
He said X-ray scans of the fireman's chest showed that his ribs were fractured.
"There were fractures from his second to fifth rib, and he had lung contusion (bruising of the lung)," he added.
When asked by DPP Zafran Rahim Hamzah, who is on the three-member team from the Attorney General's Chambers, on what he thought caused the injury, Dr Nantha Kumeran said it could have been caused by blunt trauma.
Dr Nantha Kumeran said from what he observed on the morning of Nov 27, the fireman had "a patch (of bruising) on the right upper chest wall and on the shoulder".
When asked by Zafran whether he spoke to those who brought Muhammad Adib to SJMC, Dr Nantha Kumeran said he questioned three men on what happened.
"I went out an hour after resuscitation to ask what happened. They told me they found him lying down on the ground and that they brought him here (SJMC) on a four-wheel drive," he said.
When asked if they provided any other information, Zafran replied; "No, they did not. (They said) they were unsure whether he fell from a truck or was assaulted".
Judge Rofiah Mohamad is sitting as coroner for the inquest, held at the Shah Alam Sessions Court.
Muhammad Adib was critically injured when he and his team mates from the Subang Jaya fire station responded to an emergency at the temple where riots were happening last November.
He was taken to SJMC before being transferred to the National Heart Institute (IJN) for further treatment.
He passed away on Dec 17 at 9.41pm at IJN.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/national/adib-was-gasping-for-air-and-unable-to-talk-says-doctor/ar-BBTSQaC


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 Author| Post time 23-3-2019 12:45 PM | Show all posts
27 hb nov ketika adib masih di SJMC, menteri nama farid md rafik tanya IJN mengenai ECMO, lepas tu adib di transfer ke IJN utk di sambungkan ke ECMO pada 28 hb nov, makna dia di bawa masuk ke IJN khusus utk guna ECMO tu dgn pengetahuan menteri2 dlm kabinet lah tu.


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Adib could not have understood question as he lay injured, says IJN doctor Vinodh Pillai -

February 25, 2019 5:42 PM


IJN senior cardiothoracic consultant surgeon Dr Mohamed Ezani Md Taib at the inquest into the death of fireman Muhammad Adib Mohd Kassim today. (Bernama pic)SHAH ALAM: A senior cardiothoracic consultant surgeon today told the inquest into the death of Muhammad Adib Mohd Kassim that the fireman might not have understood when asked if he was beaten up.
Dr Mohamed Ezani Md Taib of the National Heart Institute (IJN), the 14th witness in the inquest into Adib’s death last November, said he asked Adib if he knew what had happened.
He said Adib shook his head sideways, indicating he was unaware of what happened.
Ezani also told coroner Rafiah Mohamad an IJN medical assistant had told him that Adib nodded when asked if he recalled whether he was beaten up.

To a question by Ahmad Lufti Awang, one of the five lawyers holding a watching brief for Adib’s family, Ezani said Adib most likely did not know what was going on because of the shock he received from his injuries, said to be blunt force trauma.
Ezani, who is also the clinical director of IJN’s Heart and Lung Transplant Department, repeated his earlier statement when pressed by the lawyer: “He shook his head when I asked him how he was.”
The lawyer then remarked that this was all speculation, before moving on.
Earlier today, Ezani said Adib’s cause of death was “acute lung failure secondary to lung injuries associated with blunt force trauma”.
He said the blunt force trauma was the result of a hard object hitting Adib in the chest.
To a question by Yahaya Othman, another lawyer representing Adib’s family, on whether a punch or a kick could be considered as hard enough to cause the impact Adib received on his right side, Ezani said this was difficult to say.
Asked again by the lawyer if “one or two big punches” could cause such an impact – Adib had some of his rib bones fractured and his lungs were also injured – Ezani replied: “Maybe, if it had a lot of pressure.”
Ezani said he received a call on the night of Nov 27 from Deputy National Unity and Social Well-being Minister Mohamed Farid Md Rafik, a trained anesthesiologist, who asked if IJN had an ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) machine.
Asked why the deputy minister took a “sudden interest” in the case, Ezani said he did not know.
“He only asked if the hospital had the ECMO system and whether the IJN could accommodate Adib,” he said.
Ezani said he helped facilitate Adib’s transfer to the IJN from the intensive care unit at the Subang Jaya Medical Centre after receiving the green light from his superiors.
Adib was connected to the ECMO on Nov 28 to aid his heart and lungs with oxygenation.
To a question by lawyer Syazlin Mansor, who appeared for the housing and local government ministry and the Fire Services Department, on how Adib’s left lung had contusions when only his right side was injured, Ezani said injuries in the thoracic cavity could spread.
He also disagreed that it could be inferred that Adib was unconscious if he was asleep.
“It’s your ability to comprehend,” he said, adding that Adib was also heavily sedated on the first day he arrived at IJN with the dosage decreasing gradually.
Asked how a particular internal fracture was not seen in a CT scan when Adib was admitted at SJMC and why this showed up later on, Ezani said he doubted someone had “dropped” Adib’s body, which was the only way he could have suffered the injury.
He also clarified his earlier remark that Adib used dumbbells during his physiotherapy sessions, saying these were special weights used in what he branded as “passive physio”.
He said Adib’s muscles needed to be “challenged” but that this was done according to his condition.
Ezani also said any bone displacement as indicated in the CT scan could not have been caused during the physio exercises as Adib would have responded and complained of back pain, “non-verbally at least”.
“He never complained of any back pain,” he said.

The inquest entered its ninth day today.
Adib, 24, was part of the Emergency Medical Rescue Services (EMRS) sent from the Subang Jaya fire and rescue station to the Sri Maha Mariamman temple on Nov 27
He died at the IJN on Dec 17

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2019/02/25/adib-could-not-have-understood-question-as-he-lay-injured-says-ijn-doctor/

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 Author| Post time 23-3-2019 12:47 PM | Show all posts
Tup Tup pada 11 hb dis , IJN buat keputusan ECMO tak diperlukan adib dah.

Soalan cepumas

Adakah dari 28 nov - 11 dis tu, dlm masa 2 minggu je tu, bruising dlm paru2 dia boleh sembuh ?

Adakah dalam waktu sesingkat tu fracture di 4 rib dia dah ok ?

Adakah kecederaan paru2 nya yg teruk boleh sembuh dlm masa 2 minggu je ?

lihat font biru di artikel atas ok ......Bukan hanya tak mahu dia guna ECMO tapi di bagi physiotherapy sessions guna dumbbells yg menggetarkan anggota badan dia ( .....tidakkah 4 rib fracture yg di alami nya tu boleh saja jadi patah truih ketika sessions tu berlangsung ? )

Doktor yg merawat di IJN sendiri akui patah dalaman berlaku pada adib , bukan ketika di SJMC kerana adib dah di x ray scan di SJMC dan didapati hanya alami rib fracture je so tak wujudpun patah tu waktu kat SJMC ....

Doktor IJN simply nafikan ia berpunca dari physiotherapy sessions tu tapi akui boleh berlaku kalau badan di jatuhkan , hmmm . Di jatuhkan oleh sapa tu ketika di IJN ?


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IJN: Injured fireman Adib no longer needs lung support machine              
            
  •                 Tuesday, 11 Dec 2018                           

                                                    image: https://www.thestar.com.my/~/med ... 03A5621C1BD1E8BDE46

                    
                                KUALA LUMPUR (Bernama): Muhammad Adib Mohd Kassim, the fireman who was severely injured after being attacked by a mob in the Sri Maha Mariamman temple fracas in USJ25, Subang Jaya on Nov 27, is getting better.
He no longer requires the Veno-Venous Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation (vv-ECMO) machine to aid his breathing.

National Heart Institute (IJN) in a statement said the doctors had removed the machine at noon Tuesday (Dec 11) after viewing the fireman's progressive development and clinical improvement.

"He has made great strides and progress over the past 72 hours. He is able to communicate via a white board with his family and healthcare providers.

"(However) Muhammad Adib currently continues to require respiratory support with a ventilator and a dialysis machine. His rehabilitation exercises will be intensified to improve his muscle power and strength for his upper and lower limbs," the IJN statement said.

Muhammad Adib has been on the machine since being admitted for treatment at IJN.
Earlier this month, doctors had taken him off the heart-support machine when his heart was able to function on its own. – Bernama

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/ ... 34ziIQzt8sRXTe1v.99



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 Author| Post time 23-3-2019 12:50 PM | Show all posts
Tengok IJN sendiri akui dia alami kecederaan TERUK di paru2 sejak awal lagi ....habih tu pasai apa hanya bagi dia guna ECMO selama 2 minggu je dah tau teruk ya amat keadaan paru2 dia ?


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Kembali kritikal akibat jangkitan paru-paru

17 Disember 2018 3:00 AM

KUALA LUMPUR 16 Dis. - Anggota Jabatan Bomba dan Penyelamat Malaysia (JBPM), Muhammad Adib Mohd. Kassim, 24, kini kembali kritikal dan perlu menggunakan semula mesin Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation (ECMO) selepas paru-parunya mengalami kemerosotan yang progresif akibat jangkitan.

Institut Jantung Negara (IJN) dalam satu kenyataan berkata, Muhammad Adib terpaksa menggunakan semula mesin ECMO kira-kira pukul 9 malam tadi selepas penilaian mendapati paru-parunya mengeras.
“Akibat paru-paru mengeras Muhammad Adib sukar mene­rima oksigen dan ini berpunca daripada kecederaan teruk di bahagian paru-parunya sejak awal.
“Pada masa sama, fungsi buah pinggangnya juga tidak menunjukkan sebarang perubahan yang mana dia terus memerlukan sokongan dialisis,” kata kenyataan itu.
Tambah kenyataan itu, berdasarkan keadaan kesihatan terkini Muhammad Adib, lawatan terhadapnya akan dihadkan.
“Sehubungan itu, kami minta seluruh rakyat Malaysia terus mendoakan agar Muhammad Adib kembali pulih,” ujarnya.
Pada 11 Disember lalu, IJN memaklumkan Muhammad Adib tidak lagi memerlukan mesin ECMO untuk membantu pernafasannya.
Selain itu, pasukan doktor di IJN juga mengalihkan mesin sokongan jantung selepas jantungnya boleh berfungsi de­ngan sendiri pada awal bulan ini.
Muhammad Adib cedera parah dibelasah dalam kejadian rusuhan di Kuil Sri Maha Mariamman, USJ25, Subang Jaya dekat sini, 27 November lalu. Beliau sepatutnya melangsungkan perkahwinan pada 23 Disember ini.







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 Author| Post time 23-3-2019 12:53 PM | Show all posts
Dia di suruh duduk atas kerusi .....dgn keadaan dalaman dada dia seteruk tu di suruh duduk ?

11 hb nov ECMO di hentikan , 14 nov dia jadi makin letih dan SUKAR BERNAFAS , dlm masa 3 hari saja maaa keadaan dia jadi bertambah teruk lepas dihentikan ECMO itteww.....

Let's see, dgn 4 rib fracture with severely injured and bruising lung , dari 14 dah nampak dia tercungap2 tu....tup tup 15 hb baru depa bagi dia guna ECMO semula..... Why did they wait one day ? WHY?

Sehari depa biarkan dia walau depa sedar dia sukar bernafas di tambah dgn kecederaan paru2 teruk yg di alaminya sejak awal tu ....SEHARI baru depa bertindak boh mende yg depa tranfer dia ke situ utk guna in the first place tu ......

Apa makna tu ? Sengaja menyebabkan keadaan dia jadi dari teruk ke kritikal lah tuuuu. Dah sampai ke peringkat point of no return sesaknya baru depa sambungkan ECMO pada dia , bermakna no point lah buat waktu dah terlambat gitu .

There is the proof yg dia sengaja di biarkan dari teruk hingga jadi kritikal....bukti diambil dari keterangan doktor2 pakar yg merawatnya sendiri .

Sesaja tidak mahu beri ECMO pada dia hingga dia jadi kritikal sesgt tu bukan kah sama mcm sesaja nak bunuh dia ?


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Adib meninggal dunia akibat masalah pernafasan

   Syah Rul Aswari Abdullah dan Sarah Zulkifli
am@hmetro.com.my

ANGGOTA bomba, Muhammad Adib Mohd Kassim, 24, meninggal dunia disebabkan oleh sindrom kesukaran pernafasan akut (ARDS).
Perunding Kanan Pakar Bedah Kardiotorasik Institu Jantung Negara (IJN), Datuk Dr Mohamed Ezani Md Taib berkata, ARDS adalah kegagalan paru-paru berkait rapat dengan kegagalan beberapa fungsi organ lain, termasuk buah pinggang.
Saksi ke-14 inkues kematian Muhammad Adib itu berkata, sepanjang 21 hari mangsa dirawat di IJN juga, keadaan buah pinggang mangsa juga tidak pulih meskipun menjalani dialisis.
Selain itu, katanya, fungsi paru-paru dan jantung lelaki juga tidak kembali normal.
Beliau berkata demikian ketika menjawab soalan Pegawai Pengendali, Faten Hadni Khairuddin pada hari ke-9 inkues di Kompleks Mahkamah Shah Alam.
FATEN HADNI: Kamu beritahu sebelum ini, kamu ada banyak pengalaman dalam kes seperti ini. Pada pandangan kamu, apakah yang menyebabkan kematian mangsa?
DR MOHAMED EZANI: Akibat pukulan objek keras ke dada yang menyebabkan trauma di bahagian dada.
FATEN HADNI: Apakah objek keras itu?
DR MOHAMED EZANI: Saya tidak boleh beri spekulasi. Ketika pesakit dibawa dari Ramsay Sime Darby Subang Jaya Medical Center ke IJN, keadaannya amat kritikal. Kami ingat dia tak akan selamat. Kecederaan dialami mangsa terlampau teruk.
Terdahulu, ketika menjawab soalan lain Faten Hadni, saksi sama berkata, Muhammad Adib hanya sempat menjalani fasa kedua rawatan daripada fasa empat yang dirancang pihaknya, berikutan keadaan pesakit itu yang terlalu lemah.
Menurutnya, fasa pertama adalah mangsa bergantung kepada Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation (ECMO), mesin khas bagi menyokong fungsi paru-paru dan jantung mangsa.
Katanya, fasa kedua apabila pesakit tidak lagi bergantung kepada mesin berkenaan dan fasa ketiga adalah menentukan rawatan lanjut termasuk pembedahan.
“Bagaimanapun pada 14 Disember, keadaan dia semakin letih dan sukar bernafas tetapi berupaya mengekalkan tahap oksigen.
Pada 15 Disember, keadaannya semakin merosot dan kami terpaksa menggunakan semula ECMO memandangkan tekanan darahnya semakin tidak stabil.
“Pada 16 Disember, keadaannya kritikal, meskipun pelbagai usaha dilakukan oleh kami. Dia (Muhammad Adib) kemudian meninggal dunia 17 Disember,” katanya.
Ditanya Faten Hadni mengapa pembedahan tidak dilakukan selepas fasa kedua apabila Muhammad Adib tidak bergantung kepada ECMO, Dr Mohamed Ezani berkata, keadaan pesakit tidak mengizinkannya.
“Jika kita membuat pembedahan, ada kemungkinan besar pesakit mengalami pendarahan yang kami tidak dapat kawal.
“Selain itu, tahap kesihatan pesakit perlu berada pada tahap terbaik, termasuk memiliki paras protein yang mencukupi dan mempunyai kekuatan otot dan beberapa parameter lain," katanya.
Pada prosiding sama, saksi itu memberitahu Muhammad Adib dipantau secara rapi oleh sepasukan kakitangan perubatan, sepanjang 21 hari menerima rawatan di IJN.
Katanya, selepas hari keempat, keadaan anggota bomba itu dilihat ada perkembangan memberangsangkan apabila lebih sedar dan memberi tindak balas kepada nama dan arahan.
“Apabila kami panggil namanya, dia membuka mata dan boleh beritahu bila kami suruh gerakan bahagian lengan.
“Dia faham dan tahu berada di hospital dan mengecam ibu bapanya. Tetapi, disebabkan tiub di dalam mulut, dia tidak bercakap.
“Kami berikan dia papan putih dan pen untuk dia menulis. Dia juga diberikan telefon bimbit sebab dia meminta telefon bimbitnya,” katanya.
Dr Mohamed Ezani juga berkata, pada satu ketika selepas tidak bergantung kepada ECMO, keadaan Muhammad Adib menjadi lebih baik apabila berupaya menggerakkan bahagian tangan dan selepas dibantu, anggota bomba itu dapat duduk atas kerusi.
Muhammad Adib, 24, yang juga anggota van Unit Bantuan Perkhidmatan Kecemasan (ERMS) Balai Bomba dan Penyelamat (BBP) Subang Jaya, parah dalam rusuhan ketika kekecohan di tapak Kuil Sri Maha Mariamman, USJ 25, Subang Jaya pada 27 November tahun lalu.
Selepas 21 hari bertarung nyawa, Allahyarham menghembuskan nafas terakhir pada 17 Disember lalu di IJN.
Lagi berita berkaitan Inkues Adib


  Artikel ini disiarkan pada : Isnin, 25 Februari 2019 @ 3:37 PM


https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2019/02/427018/adib-meninggal-dunia-akibat-masalah-pernafasan





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Post time 23-3-2019 01:06 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
blastoff replied at 23-3-2019 12:50 PM
Tengok IJN sendiri akui dia alami kecederaan TERUK di paru2 sejak awal lagi ....habih tu pasai apa h ...

Itu satu hal.. satu hal lagi aku pening hari tuu doktor jugak ckp kecederaan sbb pukui laa ni kecederaan sbb kena langgau plak.. mana satu
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Post time 23-3-2019 01:14 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Mgkn ada ketidaksengajaan yang jadi penyebab...jatuh dr katil brgkali?
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Post time 23-3-2019 01:25 PM | Show all posts
awaynepian replied at 23-3-2019 01:14 PM
Mgkn ada ketidaksengajaan yang jadi penyebab...jatuh dr katil brgkali?

ok cuba sis turun katil, jatuh boleh patah anggota dalam tak? ce test? kalau patah bgtahu saya
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Buritan replied at 23-3-2019 01:06 PM
Itu satu hal.. satu hal lagi aku pening hari tuu doktor jugak ckp kecederaan sbb pukui laa ni kece ...

Akak pun confused.. Bila inques kata sebab kena langgar pulak. Tp akak putuskan akak nak percaya laporan asal dari Ramsey Sime Darby tu.
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awaynepian replied at 23-3-2019 01:14 PM
Mgkn ada ketidaksengajaan yang jadi penyebab...jatuh dr katil brgkali?

Adib waktu di ICU pastilah sentiasa ada nurse jaga dia ......tentu depa sedar kalau dia jatuh katil...lagi pun bukannya dia boleh bergerak sendiri utk bangun dari katil hingga nak ke peringkat terjatuh segala..... melainkan waktu depa nak dudukkan dia di kerusi tu lah kot depa jatuh kan dia.

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Edited by blastoff at 23-3-2019 01:34 PM
CiliPadiSedap replied at 23-3-2019 01:25 PM
ok cuba sis turun katil, jatuh boleh patah anggota dalam tak? ce test? kalau patah bgtahu saya

4 rib retak dgn lebam teruk di paru2 nya dan masih di ICU ..... mana boleh bangun sendiri maaa mcm2 tiub masih dok lekat kat dia tuh..... lepas tak guna ECMO depa masih boh ventilator kat dia.

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Buritan replied at 23-3-2019 01:06 PM
Itu satu hal.. satu hal lagi aku pening hari tuu doktor jugak ckp kecederaan sbb pukui laa ni kece ...

dia di bawa dlm keadaan teruk dah .....IJN mengkritikal kan dia lagi .......di pukul atau di langgar bukan sebab kematian lah kerana dia masih hidup waktu di bawa ke IJN.... di IJN dia mati sebab paru2 dia jadi kantoi kerana tak di beri ecmo dlm jangkamasa sewajarnya.....paru2 dia tak dibenarkan sembuh dgn betul sebelum dihentikan ECMO tu.  

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Edited by blastoff at 23-3-2019 01:43 PM

ECMO boleh di guna hingga 6 bulan agar lebam dan injury di paru2 betul2 sembuh supaya paru2 boleh berfungsi dgn elok sendiri lepas di hentikan ECMO   ..... kenapa 2 minggu dah kalut hentikan ?

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Edited by blastoff at 23-3-2019 01:48 PM

umpama kaki retak manyak tempat dgn lebam dalaman yg teruk di suruh berjalan berkilometer berhari2 tanpa pepe bantuan pun ......err teruk ke idak kaki gitu lepas tu jadinya ? Bukan kah boleh bentan jadinya lalu bengkak ke hapa di buatnya ?

Gitulah jugak dgn paru2 yg di suruh pam dgn upaya sendiri tu selama berhari2 walau lebam dan cedera teruk di tambah dgn tulang retak manyak di area nya.Payah nak faham kah implikasinya tu ?


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Post time 23-3-2019 01:57 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Omg..teori ni menakutkan..how come pengamal perubatan sampai hati buat mcm ni
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Post time 23-3-2019 02:08 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Siapa boleh lawan kuasa Allah. Kalau dah nyawa adib tuhan tentukan sekian2. ..nyawa kita juga. ..
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blastoff replied at 23-3-2019 01:41 PM
ECMO boleh di guna hingga 6 bulan agar lebam dan injury di paru2 betul2 sembuh supaya paru2 boleh be ...

Tak pernah lg aku dgr 6 bulan. Up to a month, iya.
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Sejak akhir2 nih ada semacam suatu gerakan yg cuba memburuk2kan institusi perubatan negara.

Bermula dgn serangan fitnah kkm seludup vaksin tiruan.
Pakar2 dan doktor kita dituduh bodoh.

Dilanjutkan kpd isu serangan gas beracun di pasir gudang. Suma sukarelawan, doktor2 dan nurse kita dimaki hamun, bodoh dan lembab bertindak.
Takmampu atasi kecemasan katanya.

Terkini, pihak hospital dituduh sbg pembunuh almarhum adib.

Semoga gerakan provokasi tersebut terima pembalasan yg setimpal terhadap tuduhan2 berat dorang.
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Gosip acik bawang..?
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so gang gang bantai arwah bersih dan suci murni la, nak backup puak2 ni ka
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