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 Author| Post time 28-9-2020 01:55 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by green~tea at 28-9-2020 01:58 PM

Hari ni i baca kat NST about financial hierarchy...


What are the five levels in the hierarchy of financial needs, you may wonder? The first in the five-tier pyramid is the cash flow and basic needs that entail our food, housing, utilities and daily expenses. It's the foremost basic need that ensures the fundamentals, including the physiological needs, are covered financially.

The second tier is financial safety, covering insurance and emergency funds to prepare for unforeseen events and risks.

As a safety cushion, emergency funds should cover three months of living expenses in case of an accident, an unexpected health or family issue, or losing a job. The third tier is about accumulating wealth.

At this level, the focus shifts to growing assets for long-term success and longevity. The fourth is about financial freedom, for which long-term care and children's education are found within this category.

These financial needs are linked to esteem needs, such as self-respect and personal accomplishment. The final pinnacle is the legacy.

This entails estate planning, tax planning, and business succession planning, connecting with self-actualisation in Maslow's pyramid.

The reality is that many of us can't achieve all the five tiers. It's good enough if we can manage efficient cash flow to cover our basic needs although it'd be a worthwhile experience for all of us to learn financial planning on any given situation.

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 Author| Post time 28-9-2020 01:56 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by green~tea at 28-9-2020 02:15 PM

https://www.nst.com.my/amp/opinion/columnists/2020/09/627754/many-cant-achieve-five-levels-hierarchy-financial-needs


Full article here...  

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Post time 5-10-2020 09:59 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 12-8-2020 12:27 AM
Bleh baca mana2 fatwa.... kalo syubhah, u bleh cari other investment instrument.... tiada paksaa ...

Hi greentea,
I ada beberapa soalan.

1. Awal2 thread u ada bgtau sebelum ni u xmasuk asb sbb terpengaruh pasal syubhah. Apa yg sebabkan u saving jugak dalam asb? Sbb i sampai sekarang berbolak balik isu syubhah ni, tu sbb x buat saving kat asb ni, just TH je.

2. U cakap loan asb as leveraging tool. Say i xde problem nak byr bulan2. Boleh tolong ajar mcm mana yg dikata guna loan asb boleh increase limit saving tu? If i nak ambik loan 200k, patut buat short term loan ke long term loan?

3. If sebenarnya i boleh je saving 200k  in 5 years without buat loan, better buat loan asb ke atau saving normal?

Tq so much sbb share byk idea dalam thread ni ye.
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Post time 6-10-2020 08:23 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Iols simpan utk anak2 punya saving dlm asb...tapi tgk sspn~i....uols rasa mana lebih baik?sspni or asb?apa beza simpanan utk sspni n asb?
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 10:33 AM | Show all posts
bvsf06 replied at 5-10-2020 09:59 PM
Hi greentea,
I ada beberapa soalan.

dulu2 in 2008, ada keluar isu ni...
"
Ahli Jawatankuasa Perundingan Hukum Syara'(Fatwa) yang hadir bersetuju memberi pandangan bahawa. oleh kerana pelaburan
ASB
pada masa ini terdapat pelaburan di tempat-tempat yang bercanggah dengan hukum syara’. maka ia tidak diharuskan sehingga pihak
ASB
membersihkan dari tempat-tempat tersebut"



but then, dah keluar fatwa yang ASB adalah harus,

https://www.bharian.com.my/rencana/muka10/2017/09/331459/kesepakatan-syariah-dalam-pelaburan-asb



and in 2017, even mufti selangor pun dah fatwakan harus
https://www.astroawani.com/berita-bisnes/mufti-selangor-putuskan-hukum-pelaburan-asnb-harus-142847


tak silap i, in 2009 or earlier yang difatwakan ASB tu harus.. and mmg jelas usaha PNB dlm ensuring ASB dana patuh syariah.
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 10:38 AM | Show all posts
bvsf06 replied at 5-10-2020 09:59 PM
Hi greentea,
I ada beberapa soalan.

answering question 2 and 3, i cuba analyze ASB dengan u saving 36k setahun selama 5 tahun vs amek loan ASB 200k, and langsaikan secepat mungkin... so nampak tak dalam table bawah ni.. at year-20 banyak kan beza baki ASB between ASB financing and Cash,... dengan syarat, u tak pernah usik dividen... we use ASB financing as leveraging tool utk increase ASB limit sejak Year 1










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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 11:35 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by green~tea at 6-10-2020 11:43 AM
DandelionW replied at 6-10-2020 08:23 AM
Iols simpan utk anak2 punya saving dlm asb...tapi tgk sspn~i....uols rasa mana lebih baik?sspni or a ...


SSPN ada income tax exemption.... tu je... and dividend dia competitive jugak vs ASB....

so i would choose SSPN carum bulan2, up to limit claim RM8k per year per one parent.. and some money (duit raya etc) masuk ASB..

I skang carum rm300 per month masuk sspn-i plus for my son... so dah 3600 setahun.... nnti ada rezeki utk adik dia ni i akan start carum rm300 sebulan jugak skim sspn-i plus.... balance tu asb lah....
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Post time 6-10-2020 12:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 6-10-2020 11:35 AM
SSPN ada income tax exemption.... tu je... and dividend dia competitive jugak vs ASB....

so  ...

Tu la iols baru tfikir...sbb klu combine 3(anak 2 +iols ) kira dah blh mkn dividen je utk asb....dah blh fokus simpan utk anak utk kos study masa depan tp tu la.mcm dah silap percaturan pula.
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 12:38 PM | Show all posts
DandelionW replied at 6-10-2020 12:13 PM
Tu la iols baru tfikir...sbb klu combine 3(anak 2 +iols ) kira dah blh mkn dividen je utk asb....d ...

its okay.. never too late to start anything... sspn tu bleh income tax exemption RM8000 per parent yang bekerja.. sbb i max dua orang anak je.. thats why i amek pakej sspn-i plus RM3600 utk seorang anak... u bleh pilih2 la samada nak sspn atau sspn-i plus.. i amek yang ada PLUS tu sbb ada takaful sikit dalam tu
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Post time 6-10-2020 09:29 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 6-10-2020 10:38 AM
answering question 2 and 3, i cuba analyze ASB dengan u saving 36k setahun selama 5 tahun vs amek  ...

Tq so much ye for ur explanation.

Sorry ye green, tak berapa faham table ni.
Rujuk kepada yg bahagian asb loan, tahun 0 = 200,000 and tahun 1=210,000.

1.Perbezaan rm10,000 ni adalah dividen ke? Dengan assumption dividen 5%?
2. Macam mana dengan interest pulak? Adakah rm10,000 ni dah tolak/ambil kira interest? If interest semasa ~4%, masih berbaloi ke kalau ambil asb loan?
3. Untuk zakat kira tahun 2 dah kena bayar zakat la kan?

Sorry ye tanya banyak2 ni, i dah lama baca online tapi susah nak faham.
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 09:55 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bvsf06 replied at 6-10-2020 09:29 PM
Tq so much ye for ur explanation.

Sorry ye green, tak berapa faham table ni.


Kalo camtu u kena kira apple to apple...

I tepek sini u baca ok.... 3 posting je

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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 09:56 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bvsf06 replied at 6-10-2020 09:29 PM
Tq so much ye for ur explanation.

Sorry ye green, tak berapa faham table ni.


I assume 5% dividen je dlm calculation di aats...

tp yg i tepek ni mmg apple to apple ya.. cash bulanan sama....

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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 10:01 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bvsf06 replied at 6-10-2020 09:29 PM
Tq so much ye for ur explanation.

Sorry ye green, tak berapa faham table ni.


ASB loan hanya bayar zakat atas dividen tu... u tengok kat link i share ni OK

https://afyan.com/cara-kira-zakat-asb-dan-asbf.html/


And ada sambungan sikit  asb financing vs asb cash

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Post time 6-10-2020 10:25 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 6-10-2020 09:56 PM
I assume 5% dividen je dlm calculation di aats...

tp yg i tepek ni mmg apple to apple ya..  ...

I tak berapa nampak the comparison table, agak kabur.
But i notice u ambil dari buku sharif rahman kan?
I dah beli dah ebook dia just now, will take some time to read dan cuba fahamkan.

Tq so much sis, byk ilmu u kasi.
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2020 11:17 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bvsf06 replied at 6-10-2020 10:25 PM
I tak berapa nampak the comparison table, agak kabur.
But i notice u ambil dari buku sharif rahma ...

Kalo u view dgn laptop lagi clear... yes buku syarif rahman... bacalah buku tu senang faham...
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Post time 8-10-2020 11:51 PM | Show all posts
akhirnya i berjaya tambah satu lagi tabungan untuk retirement
i buka akaun private retirement scheme (PRS)
itu pun selepas berkali2 dengar few officemates sebut
and since dapat tax relief, maka untuk i yang single, tiada apa nak ditolak dalam e-filing tu
amatlah lega mendengar
i register baru je few weeks ago
dan dalam tempoh sama
paksa diri add in duit dah 2 kali

now i dah ada tabungan TH, ASB dan PRS untuk retirement
so far i consistent menambah tabungan monthly
tanah tapak rumah pun da ada di kampung
walaupun tidak besar
tapi cukup lah kalau nk jual balik
buat belanja di kala terdesak

bangga dengan pencapaian diri sendiri

seronok baca thread ni
walaupun bab investment i sangat la blur
dan masih tidak faham2

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Post time 9-10-2020 12:05 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 4-8-2020 06:07 PM
nak tambah... when we manage our own unit trust funds through i-kwsp, theres NO PROCESSING FEE AT AL ...

untuk investment i-kwsp nii masih belum berani
sebab masih belum khatam
mujur ada few officemates yang sangat bijak dalamm investment
dan suka berkongsi
dan tak paksa invest or use their service to manage my investment



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 Author| Post time 9-10-2020 12:46 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
gekkou replied at 9-10-2020 12:05 AM
untuk investment i-kwsp nii masih belum berani
sebab masih belum khatam
mujur ada few officemat ...


I myself dah redeem all unit trust thru i-kwsp tu, sbb market condition dah start bearish... because of political instability...

Let's wait next year, when the market starts to recover.... for now u belajar la whatever necessary...  
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 Author| Post time 9-10-2020 12:50 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Bila politic tak stabil..  ape je proposal or strategic intiiatives yang boleh sanction? Rancangan malaysia ke, akta apa pun tak boleh nak properly bentang and gets approval to implement.. and zaman sekarang all FDI dah start keluar and focus on their respective countries' self-sustainability... so for now.. i would focus on low risk investment  like PNB's funds...
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 Author| Post time 9-10-2020 12:56 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
gekkou replied at 8-10-2020 11:51 PM
akhirnya i berjaya tambah satu lagi tabungan untuk retirement
i buka akaun private retirement schem ...

Thats a good start.... dah ada 3 tabungan u... slowly but surely lah.... jgn lupa reward diri once in a while to keep your motivation....
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