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Author: Normabaru

Are you false positive

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 Author| Post time 22-1-2021 12:23 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Nah.. Tengok sini..reliability test dah jadi isu dkt nk setahun kot

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So in conclusion.. Dah kalau xde contact dgn PUI, pastu ko xmingle to red zone area.. Pastu xde symptoms.. Ko xpyhla gatal2 nk buat test..even ada steroid pon ade kes jadi positive walhal false positive.. Pastu buang duit, buang masa buang resources

Testing contact tracing je per cluster almost 20k

Thats how costing this virus to our economy
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Post time 22-1-2021 12:39 PM | Show all posts
Ada sorg akk opis ni positive covid.. akk tu pegi check bila dia hilang deria rasa.. sebelum tu dia demam selsema..  close contact dgn husband nye... ble wat test ank sulung dia positive sb bdk tu demam.. nk jd cerita ank nye tu p sekolah.. xtau la mcm mn tu.. riso je kitorg...

bila dapat je berita akk ni positive, bos tros panggil utk sanitize opis... so smlm la kitorg swab test.. nsb la semua negative.. nsb jgk la bos dh ketatkan peraturan suh pake mask je sepanjang dok opis... sb akk ni mmg dtg je opis even dia selsema demam... seram btl... dh la akk ni ada kencing manis... skrg dia kuarantin kt umh je.. 3 org ank yg lain nsb negative...


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Post time 22-1-2021 12:48 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Mana yg dah pernah covid 19 positif,, ada alasan tak ambil vaksin lagi
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Post time 22-1-2021 01:23 PM | Show all posts

....... false +ve Ok lah .. daripada falze-ve ...
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Post time 22-1-2021 02:36 PM | Show all posts
try swab durian, kucing, jalanraya , air mutawasita...tengok apa result..
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Post time 22-1-2021 02:43 PM | Show all posts
Boomibulat replied at 21-1-2021 02:55 PM
Mgkn susu badan boleh lawan kobid..

..errr aduh aku harap statement ni tidak tular nnti ramai plak nak susu ibu....
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Post time 22-1-2021 03:00 PM | Show all posts
salimrock replied at 22-1-2021 02:43 PM
..errr aduh aku harap statement ni tidak tular nnti ramai plak nak susu ibu....

ape salah..nti ifanonline kata boleh mengurangkan jumlah andartu..
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Post time 22-1-2021 03:18 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
budaktua replied at 21-1-2021 02:39 PM
kenyataan ini blh menyebabkan susu badan laku keras....

Boleh buka business nenen on demand
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Post time 22-1-2021 03:25 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Normabaru replied at 22-1-2021 10:48 AM
Bacala article kat link atas...

Kan semua ada sana

Iols tanya definisi. Bkn pendapat artikel itu, dong
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Post time 22-1-2021 03:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Far replied at 22-1-2021 11:43 AM
False Positif jadi bila sepatutnya sample dia negatif (memang bebas virus), tapi jadi positif seba ...

Hang kata sbb contaminated.
Apa proses dlm pcr utk detect contamination? Hang kata berdasarkan pengalaman hang. Hang pakai kaedah pcr mana?
Prosedur hang tak buat extraction dlm BSC ka? Extraction buat camne?
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Post time 22-1-2021 03:30 PM | Show all posts
sayawifenikmie replied at 22-1-2021 01:23 PM
....... false +ve Ok lah .. daripada falze-ve ...

ini tersangat lah betul.. dats y better buat yg mahal which is pcr.. antigen ni banyak false +ve dan false -ve

false -ve kalu menyemburrrr merata2 tanpa disedari..
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Post time 22-1-2021 03:47 PM | Show all posts
Kitty_catz replied at 22-1-2021 03:30 PM
ini tersangat lah betul.. dats y better buat yg mahal which is pcr.. antigen ni banyak false +ve d ...



.... kannnn  .. cuma yer laaa .. costlykannn ... kalau jenis kuat mental ..buat jer pcr ..tapikalau jenis lemah menta lsemua benda nak risau macam saya .. kena bua tdua dua rtk dan pcr .. sebab pcr lambat da[at result (sekarang ni banyak klinik/hospital bagi sehingag 72 jam sebab ramaiyg buat test) ..

ini ygberduit la .. kalauorang yg gaji rm1000-2000 jer sebulan .. nakbelanaj rm150-350+ utk buat ujian mmg perit la

nak harap KKM .. kontek +ve kelas A pun silap2 tak dipanggil KKM utk buat test ...
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Post time 22-1-2021 04:37 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kwn ofis aku demam, dah 4 hari pegi buat rtk test, negatif. Tapi demam masih on off. Lepas 2-3 ari buat test lagi x sure pcr ke rtk, positif lak. Scary jgk ye result yg not detected ni
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Post time 22-1-2021 06:02 PM | Show all posts
sayawifenikmie replied at 22-1-2021 03:47 PM
.... kannnn  .. cuma yer laaa .. costlykannn ... kalau jenis kuat mental ..buat jer pcr ..tapi ...

sepatutnya.. since kes canak2 ni bahana politikus itu hari... gomen kena cover the cost

if foreign workers boleh claim socso- if depa mecarum, awat kita tablleyyyyyy? buat apa carum tetiap bulan if tak dapat benefits time2 ginih?

yihhhh sangat hai....

kwsp duit kita pun gomen tak bagi amek... socso pun gome tak bagi amek..

satgi mampuh keraih la smorangggg
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Post time 23-1-2021 05:08 PM | Show all posts
Edited by Far at 23-1-2021 05:14 PM
Tinot7 replied at 22-1-2021 03:28 PM
Hang kata sbb contaminated.
Apa proses dlm pcr utk detect contamination? Hang kata berdasarkan pe ...

Lepas ambil sample mmg kena buat extraction dulu u...I punya experience guna sample kahak tuberculosis. Centrifuge lah dulu kahak tu, extract DNA --lepas tu run lah PCR, lepas run PCR ---kena buat gel electrophoresis.
Untuk kes COVID-19 ni..dia guna RT-PCR . Hampir sama je procedure.

Pengalaman I lah, kalau tak berhati-hati, result boleh jadi false positif.  
Apa proses dlm pcr utk detect contamination? <---PCR tak boleh detect contamination, i cuma cakap, guna PCR highly likely untuk false positf sebb cross contamination. Repeat test lah untuk accuracy, untuk ruled out false positive

But bak kata yang lain, false positif lagi elok dari false negative. Betul lah untuk situation pandemik skrg ni.

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Post time 24-1-2021 07:40 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Far replied at 23-1-2021 05:08 PM
Lepas ambil sample mmg kena buat extraction dulu u...I punya experience guna sample kahak tubercul ...

Ni jawapan hang. Cross-contamination.

"guna PCR highly likely untuk false positf sebb cross contamination"
Kalau cross-contamination, musti drp sumber yg positif, kan? Pastu kalau nak pikiaq cross-contamination, ujian sebelah-menyebelah, kan? Run sama, kan? Risiko berkurangan kalau pakai mesin utk extract, kan?

Depa uji ribu riban. Aritu kata beli mesin utk proses ribu riban.. tak tau la kalau takde org cek keputusan...

Bg iols, org yg nak sgt false positif, sbb depa takleh nak terima bilangan kes yg byk kat spital. In denial mode.
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Post time 24-1-2021 05:09 PM | Show all posts
Tinot7 replied at 24-1-2021 07:40 AM
Ni jawapan hang. Cross-contamination.

"guna PCR highly likely untuk false positf sebb cross con ...

'Kalau cross-contamination, musti drp sumber yg positif, kan? Pastu kalau nak pikiaq cross-contamination, ujian sebelah-menyebelah, kan? Run sama, kan?" betul...lagi lagi sekarang sample banyak, kalau staff makmal tak efficient boleh jadi punca juga cross contamination.



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Post time 24-1-2021 05:21 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Far replied at 24-1-2021 05:09 PM
'Kalau cross-contamination, musti drp sumber yg positif, kan? Pastu kalau nak pikiaq cross-contam ...

Sblm results disiarkan, rasanya ada ramai yg dah cek. Itu sbbnya iols husnuzon yg results yg kita lihat itu adalah realiti.
Kalau nak kata bilangan tu sumer false positif, andaikan 10% false positif. Tgk jumlah 3k sehari, tolak 300, masih ada baki 2.7k. Tetap ramai. Terima je la yg mmg byk kes.
Lagi satu. Iols dgr kali dasat sbb ramai sakit tenat. Masuk utk meninggal atopon meninggal sblm masuk spital. Itu sbbnya kkm takleh nak tampung. Sbb ramai yg tenat. Ramai pula org kkm positif.
Baik kita dok umah baik2 je. Kalau ada kelapangan, start bisnes from home.
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