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A List of Quranic Errors

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Post time 22-6-2006 10:06 PM | Show all posts
the same goes to u truth... i've seen ur rant in this forum long enough to come to a conclusion that u r a loner... u got no life other than trying to provoke others especially muslims. when ppl retaliate u claimed them as violence... so tell me, what is the difference between u and satan... NONE. u r indeed a satan who like to see others fight endlessly. even worse than your nazi father.
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 Author| Post time 22-6-2006 10:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by spana at 22-6-2006 10:06 PM
the same goes to u truth... i've seen ur rant in this forum long enough to come to a conclusion that u r a loner... u got no life other than trying to provoke others especially muslims. when ppl re ...



are u saying most peoples (malay muslisms) in gossip forum and here is loner no life??

i think u need your brain little tuning up.
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Post time 22-6-2006 10:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 22-6-2006 09:35 PM



lol
or abraian nite


ARABIAN..
even donkey can spell it properly...
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Post time 22-6-2006 10:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 22-6-2006 09:45 PM



k-kid you should take this opportunity to debate with ali sinai. Ali sinai made it clear that if any of his writing on his site found to be untruth, he will delete it.

if you think islam i ...


he want to delete it? no chance..
i've already show that u're wrong in all your thread, why the thread is still there?
i believe that he's just like u
lidah bercabang (biawak?) with low level IQ..
ooppss... there's no IQ test in your kindergarten yet isn't it?
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Post time 22-6-2006 10:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by spana at 22-6-2006 10:06 PM
the same goes to u truth... i've seen ur rant in this forum long enough to come to a conclusion that u r a loner... u got no life other than trying to provoke others especially muslims. when ppl re ...


just leave him alone
he's just trying to make us irritate (to no avail...) while he's download the porn movie using kazaa...
furthermore, he's got URL of muslim gay website..
why did he collect it? :hmm:
wasn't it's adequate for him just to cream himself in front of the mirror?
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Post time 22-6-2006 10:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 22-6-2006 10:12 PM



are u saying most peoples (malay muslisms) in gossip forum and here is loner no life??

i think u need your brain little tuning up.


at least, i'm in this forum because i have a job as a forex trader
not just like u..
a kindergarten boy who's playing truant from your class 8 hours per week just to post quality spastic jokes in this thread..
however, your joke makes my life brighter
THANKS...
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 Author| Post time 23-6-2006 01:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 22-6-2006 10:52 PM


he want to delete it? no chance..
i've already show that u're wrong in all your thread, why the thread is still there?
i believe that he's just like u
lidah bercabang (biawak?) with low leve ...



than you can go and debate with ali sinai than making too much noise like mad person
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 Author| Post time 23-6-2006 01:47 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 22-6-2006 10:57 PM

job as a forex trader
...



so u lie & do con peoples to buy forex ??? forex trading is illegal in malaysia that come conclusion that u con peoples to buy forex.

To add again, anyone caught  doing business on forex will be charge under illegal trading.

Forex dealers are liars to ask customers to invest huge money but  end of the day no transaction but only con and fraud or scam. they will urged customers to invest more money and coming with crap excuses that transaction not making money. finally they will take all money frm customer. those forex is nothing but fraud and scam job.

You just exposed your true color = Liar and con.





[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 23-6-2006 02:06 AM ]
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Post time 23-6-2006 02:48 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 23-6-2006 01:47 AM



so u lie & do con peoples to buy forex ??? forex trading is illegal in malaysia that come conclusion that u con peoples to buy forex.

To add again, anyone caught  doing business on for ...


another spamming from an adult with the mind 6 years old attention seeker... :lol <-- EDITED
does it sound better mod?

[ Last edited by  juwaini at 23-6-2006 12:23 PM ]
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Post time 23-6-2006 07:07 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 23-6-2006 01:47 AM



so u lie & do con peoples to buy forex ??? forex trading is illegal in malaysia that come conclusion that u con peoples to buy forex.

To add again, anyone caught  doing business on for ...

hi truth, even bank negara has forex traders.. maybe u should check first..
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Post time 23-6-2006 07:43 AM | Show all posts

Okay guys, cut the flaming already and just stick to the topic.
If not i will be forced to close this thread!!

And why the need to use BIG FONTS? People here are not blind. That抯 not the way to make others notice your point/argument.
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Post time 23-6-2006 10:23 AM | Show all posts

Yeah, if more insults occur thn we'll close this thread. No calling anybody a 6-year old, liar, etc. Again, I don't want to be forced to issue warnings. Haven't done that in a while, don't make me start. :tq:
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Post time 23-6-2006 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 23-6-2006 10:23 AM

Yeah, if more insults occur thn we'll close this thread. No calling anybody a 6-year old, liar, etc. Again, I don't want to be forced to issue warnings. Haven't done that in a while, don't make m ...


You can see how rude T8 writing her/his words.
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Post time 23-6-2006 12:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 22-6-2006 09:45 PM
if you think islam indeed truth frm true god, this only way u can proof it . if not , u muslims talk lots like empty vessel makes lots of noise but none.

until than, allah, koran, muhammad is not truth.  


Ali Sina..or Ali Sinai as you call him is senile - nyanyok...

Just because he himself is faithless, just because his soul is dead, just because he has no self confidence, just because he cannot receive the light of Islam, he blames Islam, the Qur'an and Muslims for his handicap and his inabilility and his incapability of seeing from the depth of his soul. He has no God. He has only himself to blame for his atheistic streak. Not worth debating with a person like that. He has rejected Islam... any view of his is a view of a reject. He doesn't understand the Qur'an, he does not understand its nahu, its mantiq, its bayan, the glory behind Qur'anic truth. He bases his arguments on translated materials and his scanty, shallow knowledge of the language of the Qur'an. Furthermore,   he has never been a practising Muslim, he has never had any learning, any training, only breadcrumb faith (if any, at one time)  ...no knowledge (ilmu) ...therefore not even  ilmul yaqin...& as such  he will never attain ainul yaqin & haqqulyaqin (unshakable & unwavering confidence of God's love, light and truth  in the mind and soul) - the various stages of confidence in God.   He has no zikir in him, no wirid, no muraqabah, no syahadah, no ma'rifah. He has missed the boat and he will continue missing the boat. Only lost people like him appreciate his lost views. Nobody to blame but himself & themselves.  He can come and debate with me if he wants to but we will not be on the same wavelength. His is the wavelength of the unbeliever, the loser in this world and in the hereafter


[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 23-6-2006 12:43 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 23-6-2006 12:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 23-6-2006 12:15 PM


Ali Sina..or Ali Sinai as you call him is senile - nyanyok...

Just because he himself is faithless, just because his soul is dead, just because he has no self confidence, just because he ca ...


...yet u hve not guts to debate with him. such a coward or  afraid it shake your faith?
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 Author| Post time 23-6-2006 01:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bob at 23-6-2006 07:07 AM

hi truth, even bank negara has forex traders.. maybe u should check first..



forex trader only allowed in approved banking not online or not listed with bank negara.

even in cari.com i noticed a banner claimed forex trading. it is illegal trading. i can easily report that to bank negara on that issue.
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Post time 23-6-2006 03:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 23-6-2006 12:58 PM


...yet u hve not guts to debate with him. such a coward or  afraid it shake your faith?


The thing that is shaking is your reading ability  :blah:

KENNKID

He can come and debate with me if he wants to but we will not be on the same wavelength.
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Post time 23-6-2006 03:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 22-6-2006 08:26 PM

Iman if you don't prove that Ali Sina did not know the meaning of Rohh then YOU ARE A BLOODY LIAR.. is that ok with you?

and who the hell is this deadman Deedat to you.. was he your prophet?  ...





Suffice for me to quote just one simple example of what a fool he is. As highlighted by KENNKID in the above post, he doesn抰 possess all the mentioned qualities for him to understand what Quran and ISLAM is all about. So its  worthless  to argue with such a person whom you adores to the bottom of your heart. The explanation regarding Rooh is too lengthy for people like you to understand, coz u like Sinner dont have such qualities mentioned by KK.


My learned muslim brother had pointed this mistake of his. Just a simple Arabic ABC which he can't spelled correctly in the Quranic verses:

Quote fm Ali Sina:

"Whomsoever Allah guides, he is rightly guided, and whom he leads astray, they are the losers! We have created for Gehenna many jinns and men ..." (7:178-179)


Last I checked it was called Jahannam. One wonders what Quran Sina is reading from and how can it be that there are two spelling mistakes in one verse - (Gehenna) - a G instead of a J and the lack of an M at the end.
There is no 'G' letter in Arabic altogether.



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007.179 Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).
007.179 Walaqad [th]ara/n[a] lijahannama katheeran mina aljinni wa(a)l-insi lahum quloobun l[a] yafqahoona bih[a] walahum aAAyunun l[a] yubiroona bih[a] walahum [atha]nun l[a] yasmaAAoona bih[a] ol[a]-ika ka(a)l-anAA[a]mi bal hum a[d]allu ol[a]-ika humu algh[a]filoon(a)



If you really wanna know who Deedat (May Allah Bless his soul) the Great Islamic Scholar(that is what he is to me),  go to the link:-
  
Is The Bible God's Word? (The Century's Debate)
[Shaikh Ahmad Deedat vs. Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart]
[Download: PART#1 PART#2]
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Post time 23-6-2006 03:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 22-6-2006 08:44 PM


That quranic absurd item number 9 raised by Ali Sina.. here http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/NaikCampbellp11.htm

9. The definition of embryology in the Quran 23:12-14 is wrong. Nutfa (sp ...





The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:


The following information is taken from A Brief Illustrated Guide To Understanding Islam

please CLICK HERE for reading the entire book with pics
http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1-a.htm

In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man抯 embryonic development:

We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... 1 (Quran, 23:12-14)

Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.3

The second meaning of the word alaqah is 搒uspended thing.
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Post time 23-6-2006 04:11 PM | Show all posts
by Iman_6  

The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training.
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