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Itsmylife This user has been deleted
Post time 5-7-2006 11:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 5-7-2006 07:04 PM


Its seems that Zizou is not a active muslim.. i haven't come across any news that he goes to mosque or that he prays.

by the way, Zizou's wife is a christian lady.. and his childrens are ...


so what if name is non muslim........it goes with the countryla......waaaa, macam ni pun ada....betul kate astro, macam macam ada
:hmm:
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weedkiller This user has been deleted
Post time 5-7-2006 11:36 PM | Show all posts
well actually if u search around, you can actually find news about him. and he himself claims that he's a non-practising Muslim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,,1182707,00.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/opin ... a-op-rotella04jun04,0,7920995.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

well i'm not pulling you guys down, but i just think that you should get your facts right before you start sounding at each other :D
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Post time 5-7-2006 11:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 5-7-2006 11:36 PM
well actually if u search around, you can actually find news about him. and he himself claims that he's a non-practising Muslim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane
http://observer.guar ...


practise ke.....non practise ke.......bottom line religion is ISLAM. And being Islam, dia x hipokrit. :tq:
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Post time 5-7-2006 11:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 5-7-2006 11:36 PM
well actually if u search around, you can actually find news about him. and he himself claims that he's a non-practising Muslim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane
http://observer.guar ...


they are many people only have religion by their name and not practised it..
i have many muslim friends who don't even pray 5 times a day and drink alcohol..
but that's their matter with God..
at least i've already ask them to do islamic's teachings...
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Post time 6-7-2006 01:52 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 5-7-2006 11:49 PM
they are many people only have religion by their name and not practised it..
i have many muslim friends who don't even pray 5 times a day and drink alcohol..
but that's their matter with God. ...


ahhh.. they are known as munafik

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Post time 6-7-2006 01:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 7/5/06 03:04 AM


Its seems that Zizou is not a active muslim.. i haven't come across any news that he goes to mosque or that he prays.


is he supposed to be like "hay world, I'm going to the mosque, call the press, i'm going to perform a prayer." ?
He may or may not be a practising muslim, whether or not it is reported.
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Post time 6-7-2006 02:04 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 6-7-2006 01:57 AM
is he supposed to be like "hay world, I'm going to the mosque, call the press, i'm going to perform a prayer." ?
He may or may not be a practising muslim, whether or not it is reported.


He don't have to say anything. Muslims who are "perasan" like oreng will do it for him.

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Post time 6-7-2006 07:12 AM | Show all posts
eh good la this oreng dude! france won and i got my extra buckeroos!
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 Author| Post time 6-7-2006 08:14 AM | Show all posts
France is approaching..... Well done muslims.
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Post time 6-7-2006 09:26 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 01:52 AM


ahhh.. they are known as munafik



nope, when u didn't do 'wajib' things (puasa, solat etc..) OR did something against islamic teachings (mencuri, membunuh etc...), they're called KUFUR, the terminology mean 'disobey'
MUNAFIK when u're pretend as a muslim by doing all 'wajib' things but deep inside their heart, they planned to tarnish the image of islam..
don't confuse with the terminology...
thanks for giving me chances to make some rectification :tq:
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Post time 6-7-2006 09:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 6-7-2006 07:12 AM
eh good la this oreng dude! france won and i got my extra buckeroos!


hey dude, gambling is not allowed
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KENNKID This user has been deleted
Post time 6-7-2006 09:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 6-7-2006 09:26 AM


nope, when u didn't do 'wajib' things (puasa, solat etc..) OR did something against islamic teachings (mencuri, membunuh etc...), they're called KUFUR, the terminology mean 'disobey'
MUNAFIK w ...


Yes, KUFUR means to disobey. It is the root word for KAFIR which means those who reject. MUNAFIK means hypocrisy, from the religious standpoint..  it is also used by people to generally mean hypocrisy in the general sense..

[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 6-7-2006 09:35 AM ]
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Post time 6-7-2006 09:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 6-7-2006 09:32 AM
MUNAFIK means hypocrisy, from the religious standpoint..  it is also used by people to generally mean hypocrisy in the general sense.. .


in malay, they use term MUNAFIK to mean hypocrisy...
i thought that's not suitable because MUNAFIK is a very strong word...
the conotation is quite different...
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Post time 6-7-2006 10:47 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 6-7-2006 09:27 AM
hey dude, gambling is not allowed


allowed not allowed muslim do gamble

one of my muslim friend just lost to me RM100.. thanks to Zizou

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Post time 6-7-2006 10:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 10:47 AM


allowed not allowed muslim do gamble

one of my muslim friend just lost to me RM100.. thanks to Zizou



so that mean ur friend are kufur
according to your atheist believe, doesn't gambling against the morality?
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Post time 6-7-2006 11:11 AM | Show all posts
Well, all religion can show one how to be a good person, but cannot force anyone to be one.
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Post time 6-7-2006 11:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by samerosie at 6-7-2006 11:11 AM
Well, all religion can show one how to be a good person, but cannot force anyone to be one.


like what i always said "we can take the donkey near the river, but we can't force it to drink the water" :gila:
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Post time 6-7-2006 12:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 6-7-2006 10:56 AM
so that mean ur friend are kufur
according to your atheist believe, doesn't gambling against the morality?


all muslims gamble.

money is not the only issue when gambling.

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KENNKID This user has been deleted
Post time 6-7-2006 02:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 12:16 PM


all muslims gamble.

money is not the only issue when gambling.



If money is not the issue,  which gamble are you talking about?

You walk along the rail track you are gambling with your life...in that sense all human beings gamble if they do the same..

Muslims gamble or take part in a game of chance like lotteries, 4-ekor etc... but Islam forbids it. Islam is wrong or the Muslim is not obeying his religion?

Christians are not supposed to gamble too.. but they do gamble a lot...

You're an atheist... gambling is your life..$$$ is your god..(oops..I forgot..you have no god)  


[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 6-7-2006 02:30 PM ]
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Post time 6-7-2006 03:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 6-7-2006 12:16 PM


all muslims gamble.

money is not the only issue when gambling.



a funny statement..
can u gamble without money? or any material? lol:lol
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