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Proof of the Christians? Covert Crusade in Malaysia

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Post time 4-9-2006 02:58 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
I have had people ask for us by name and they spend time with us in the mosque , learning about their birthright to be Muslims and being smart and intelligent, they end up taking Shahadah with us and in turn, go preach the truth about Islam, Allah? Code of Life for all Mankind.

Today, we see Muslims being propositioned by Christian Evangelical groups and missionaries relentlessly with a zeal that astounds us. Day by day, they seek out the weak, the poor , the sick, the destitutes amongst the Muslims of Asia and work their way in. Many of these missionaries work under guise of charities and relief effort workers.

By doing a bit of research, what do I find? Countless projects by the Christian Global Missionaries out with a purpose..to convert the Muslims into their creed.

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... rusade-in-malaysia/

- MENJ

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Post time 4-9-2006 12:10 PM | Show all posts
menj cliams that muslims never forcivbly convert, but the truth is, most of the spread of islam came by forced conversions, even till today.
We don't see menj condemn such acts anywhere on his site.
Instead he complains about Christians converting Muslims by peaceful sharing reasoning and prayer.

What can we conclude here? Menj is trying desperately to fool those who are weak and uninformed about islam.
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Post time 4-9-2006 12:16 PM | Show all posts
Well, what can we say. Guys like MENJ would resort to all kinds of bluffalogy. It's in his blood.
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Post time 4-9-2006 12:26 PM | Show all posts
he also says in his article that you can't force a horse to drink, but at the same time, he wants to force lina joy to stay muslim, making veiled threats to the govt and minorities.
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Post time 4-9-2006 01:44 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 4-9-2006 02:58 AM
I have had people ask for us by name and they spend time with us in the mosque , learning about their birthright to be Muslims and being smart and intelligent, they end up taking Shahadah with us and in turn, go preach the truth about Islam, Allah? Code of Life for all Mankind.

Today, we see Muslims being propositioned by Christian Evangelical groups and missionaries relentlessly with a zeal that astounds us. Day by day, they seek out the weak, the poor , the sick, the destitutes amongst the Muslims of Asia and work their way in. Many of these missionaries work under guise of charities and relief effort workers.

By doing a bit of research, what do I find? Countless projects by the Christian Global Missionaries out with a purpose..to convert the Muslims into their creed.

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... rusade-in-malaysia/

that makes it sound as though Muslims out there are not putting enough hardwork in securing the faith of their believers...
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 Author| Post time 4-9-2006 01:46 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 4-9-2006 12:10 PM
menj cliams that muslims never forcivbly convert, but the truth is, most of the spread of islam came by forced conversions, even till today.



So many donkeys braying in frustration.

- MENJ
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Post time 4-9-2006 02:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 4-9-2006 01:44 PM

that makes it sound as though Muslims out there are not putting enough hardwork in securing the faith of their believers...


The system they put in a is a totak breakdown. Just look at menj's site, he thinks he can fool hiw opwjn fellow muslims.
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 Author| Post time 4-9-2006 02:10 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 4-9-2006 02:08 PM


The system they put in a is a totak breakdown. Just look at menj's site, he thinks he can fool hiw opwjn fellow muslims.


Yeah you posted from FFI which is NOT your own material and you laughed at the Muslim reply. Now guess what? I am posting from MY OWN SITE and I am laughing at your complaint.

- MENJ
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Post time 5-9-2006 12:00 AM | Show all posts
This is the usual muslim complaint that christians convert the poor uneducated defenceless people.

What they fail to tell you is that these people are the poor whom the muslim ignore and failed to help, to be left to rot in their squatter homes, where muslims dont even want to go.

But when they see christian charity at work, giving without asking any in return. Providing aid when non was asked.

That is why these people convert, because their own muslim brethren treat them like trash.

We christians cherish every soul that lives, even filthiest of beggars is gold in the eyes of god.

We do not care what color you are, or what language you speak, we only know that you are precious to our Lord, and HE COMMANDED US TO HELP YOU.
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Post time 5-9-2006 12:12 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 4-9-2006 02:58 AM
I have had people ask for us by name and they spend time with us in the mosque , learning about their birthright to be Muslims and being smart and intelligent, they end up taking Shahadah with us a ...

pffft, somebody is being jealous that Christians are doing charity work and their own religion is just sitting down doing nothing. oh wait they are doing something remarkable. rebranding Mat Rempit as Mat Cemerlang. a cherry on top of a fantastic year....
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Post time 5-9-2006 12:33 AM | Show all posts
Most Muslim 'charities' are nothing but terrorists funds.
90% of the Muslim charities in Afghanistan disapeared once the Taliban was kicked out. Thast was the time when the afghans needed them most. What does it show you? These Muslims charities were never interested in helping poor people in the first place?

Same thing happened in Aceh after the tsunami hit. Most of the money came from non muslims. The pledges from the muslim countries remained pledges.
My fren who went there said that the Muslims in Acheh compalined that their arab brothers said they did not pray enough while help came from non muslims.

BTW, its not true that Christians target the poor, we share the gospel to everybody that is open. Perhaps poor people are more humble, just like what the Bible said. A lot of rich and educated Muslims accept Jesus as savior too. You will be surprised who these people are in Msia. Some are very very prominent people.  

peace
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 Author| Post time 5-9-2006 02:14 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nightlord at 5-9-2006 12:00 AM
This is the usual muslim complaint that christians convert the poor uneducated defenceless people.

What they fail to tell you is that these people are the poor whom the muslim ignore and failed  ...


Evidence is on the article, nothing in it was fabricated. No need to waste your time denying something whch you know is true.

- MENJ
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Post time 5-9-2006 02:19 AM | Show all posts
menj in denial again. Great.
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Post time 9-9-2006 06:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 4-9-2006 12:10 PM
menj cliams that muslims never forcivbly convert, but the truth is, most of the spread of islam came by forced conversions, even till today.
We don't see menj condemn such acts anywhere on his sit ...

all talk,no proof..

it's sich a pity a man such as yourself needs to lie in order to get something across...
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