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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14846353/




Muslim anger grows over pope? remarks
Pakistan parliament condemns what it calls ?erogatory? words about Islam



The Vatican has said Pope Benedict did not mean to offend Muslims with remarks he made in Germany this week about Muhammad and holy war.

In a speech, Benedict quoted a 14th-century Byzantine emperor as saying, ?how me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.?

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Truth.8

In a speech, Benedict quoted a 14th-century Byzantine emperor as saying, ?how me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.

MENJ

Nothing new.

- MENJ

Nick_Perelman

Jihad is a hump os Islam? :hmm:

13Friday

under the spell of satonic attacks as looking into the mirror of own silly faith

13Friday

September 16, 2006 00:48 AM     

Muslims demand pope apologise for Islam comments

http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news.php?id=220021

PARIS (AFP) - Pope Benedict XVI faced sharp reactions to a lecture in which he linked Islam with violence, with Muslim leaders in several countries demanding he apologise.

Pakistan's parliament Friday called on the pope to retract his controversial remarks, while the foreign office accused him of "ignorance".

The overwhelmingly Muslim country's national assembly unanimously passed a resolution proposed by a legislator from an alliance of hardline Islamic parties, officials said.

"This House demands that the Pope should retract his remarks in the interest of harmony between religions," said the resolution, a copy of which was read to AFP by a parliamentary official. "The derogatory remarks of the Pope about the philosophy of jihad and Prophet Mohammed have injured sentiments across the Muslim world and pose the danger of spreading acrimony among the religions."

Benedict provoked an outcry with comments on Tuesday in a theological lecture in which he implicitly denounced connections between Islam and violence, particularly with regard to jihad, or "holy war".

The pope's official spokesman later issued a response, saying that Benedict respected Islam but rejected violence motivated by religion.

The Pakistani foreign office also waded into the row, saying the Roman Catholic leader's comments would undermine international efforts for peace between religions.

"Anyone who says that there is anything inherently evil or inhuman about Islam only shows his own ignorance of this great religion," foreign ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam told AFP.

The Pakistani foreign ministry said Benedict's remarks were "regrettable." "They widen the gulf between religions that we are working so hard to bridge," Aslam said.

"It also shows ignorance of history. It was certainly not Muslims who persecuted the followers of other religions," she said, adding that Islam was the most tolerant religion.

Muslim leaders in several countries strongly criticised his remarks but the Pakistani parliament is the first to issue such a condemnation.

"We hope that the (Roman Catholic) Church will very quickly... clarify its position so that it does not confuse Islam, which is a revealed religion, with Islamism, which is not a religion but a political ideology," the head of the French Council for the Muslim Religion (CFCM), Dalil Boubakeur, told AFP.

The pope's comments, made in a lecture at the University of Regensburg during a visit to his native Bavaria in southern Germany, were couched in a historical reference to a 14th century Byzantine emperor.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,'" Benedict said, quoting the Byzantine source on the Prophet Mohammed, founder of the Muslim faith.

The comments provoked an outcry among Muslims in several countries.

"It is a statement full of enmity and grudge," said Ali Bardakoglu, the head of Turkey's state-run religious affairs directorate.

He also expressed opposition to the pope's planned visit to Turkey in November.

Senior Islamic officials in Kuwait and Egypt demanded an immediate apology.

Hakem al-Mutairi, secretary general of Kuwait's Umma (Islamic Nation) party, urged Muslim countries to recall their ambassadors from the Vatican until the pope apologised for what Mutairi called his "calumnies" against Islam.

The 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference in Jeddah called on the Vatican to clarify its "true position on Islam and its precepts".

This demand was echoed by Mustapha Cherif, an Algerian Islam expert and co-founder of an Islamic-Christian friendship group, who said Benedict's views should be "made explicit". "If they are confirmed, that proves Islam is misunderstood," Cherif told AFP in Paris.

He also called on Muslims to help promote understanding of their faith.

Muslims also objected to another part of the lecture, in which Benedict quoted a scholar's assertion that the Muslim view of God, unlike the Christian, was not informed by the Greek-inspired western philosophical tradition of "rationality".

A member of the Moroccan parliament, Abdelilah Benkirane, told AFP in Rabat that this claim was "an offence to a billion Muslims".

Justo Balda Lacunza, a Vatican-based priest specialising in Islamic affairs, said the speech was not intended to look unfavourably on Islam, but was an "examination" of the relationship between violence and faith.

The president of Germany's Central Council of Muslims, Aiman Mazyek, responded to Benedict's comments by recalling violent chapters in the history of the Roman Catholic Church, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper reported.

Benedict had also drawn criticism on Wednesday from a leading Muslim figure in Italy.

Ejaz Ahmad, a member of a governmental consultative committee on Islam, called on him to retract his comments.

"The Muslim world is currently undergoing a deep crisis," Ahmad was quoted as saying by the ANSA news agency. "Any attack from the West can aggravate this crisis."

? AFP 2006

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SquiZZ

Mr Pope should apologize to the muslim if they so desperately demands it.

MENJ

We exposed the pope here:

http://www.menj.org/2006/09/15/n ... oderate-christians/

- MENJ

Debmey

I kinda concur with this 14th century king. What exactly did Mo's teachings bring?

i wonder why muslims got angry? it's not like the pope is lying anyway

Debmey

They want to intimidate the pope or the western world because they don't want people to question islam cos they have dirty things to hide.

Why else do you think they need to protest?

13Friday

Islamists had been attacking others nonsensically,


but we stay COOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

13Friday

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2001, 2004, 2005 and now 2006 as time ticks on

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As prophecy in Bible the EU and the Beast in Vatican.

Coming to reality.

MENJ

Originally posted by 13Friday at 17-9-2006 09:11 AM
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2001, 2004, 2005 and now 2006 as time ticks on

Now I know who you are. You are JOSHUA KONG.

- MENJ

Originally posted by MENJ at 17-9-2006 12:57 PM


Now I know who you are. You are JOSHUA KONG.

- MENJ

Dah 5 thn... baru sekarang awak tau????
atau terhidu bau tu!!!:pmuka:

MENJ

Originally posted by tiM at 17-9-2006 02:36 PM

Dah 5 thn... baru sekarang awak tau????
atau terhidu bau tu!!!:pmuka:

Dont think it concerns you in the first place anyway, so STFU.

- MENJ

Originally posted by MENJ at 17-9-2006 01:52 PM


Dont think it concerns you in the first place anyway, so STFU.

- MENJ

Joshua Kong yg paling simple baru sekarang awak tau? punya lembab kemampuan u utk tahu... Yg saya takut perjuang karut ko ni ko tak sempat sedar kebenaran merujuk pada kelembapan otak dan jiwa ko meneriam hakikat.

Peluang masih adaaa tak per jgn Jihad dgn serangan berani mati sudah! Ini hakikat kecenderungan mereka yg takut utk melihat kebenaran.

13Friday

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=7224

VATICAN

BeanDiesel

Originally posted by 13Friday at 9/15/06 03:42 AM
The Vatican has said Pope Benedict did not mean to offend Muslims with remarks he made in Germany this week about Muhammad and holy war.

I have to admit I haven't looked into what Pope Benedict said recently about Muslims. But I have to tell you that claiming that one has no intention to offend doesn't make one innocent of offending others.