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Post time 19-9-2006 03:22 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Muslims like to take Ezekiel 23:3 to downgrade the Holy Bible. If one filled with God Holy Spirit than evil satan spirit  muslims going think such verses is vulgar or not suitable to be read.

Let me educate everyone here what does this verses real mean. From my point of view which strongly believed I was move by True God Holy Spirit to exposed the truth.

Firstly, the Bible is Book of prophecy, foods that support to be eaten & foods not to be eaten, God need us to have good conduct in spiritually and sex as well and etc. The Bible complete guideline that God of Bible gave us so that we can live our life accordingly God  words.

God do give us details how Heaven and Hell and it will be set up in earth which knows as Kingdom of God when Christ  return. Musims argued that heaven is not here because for muslims heaven or the paradise somewhere not in earth and  on goings entertainment like drinking, eating fish liver, weddings with rounded eyes, pearly handsome boys and those kind stories.

Let me educate our misguided followers of Muhamamd on Heaven and Hell and later I will give brief information on verses on Ezekiel 23:3.

Now, when sinless Adam and Eve living in this planet called earth before eating the forbidden fruit , there was a  place called paradise knows as Garden of Eve  right here in this earth. Every thing was good just like a  paradise until they sin by eating the forbidden fruit by listening to serpent the satan. Since than, God have hide Garden of Eve  to all humans. So, why not possible when Jesus says Kingdom of God  will be set in earth? If one understand the Bible clearly, I strongly believed we able know the real truth than misguide or been trick by the so called paradise which offer silly things like river of wine, pearly handsome boys and etc.

To understand more details on heaven and hell , I urged followers of Muhammad as well others to click at :

Make your comparison  which makes more sense

Islam Paradise


"Heaven And Hell: What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

Now, let discuss about the following verses:

Eze 23:8  Neither left she her whoredoms [brought] from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her.

I do not find the above verses troubling unless hypocrite muslims cover themselves from head to legs but behaving harlots in parks. U can see them in parks how this muslims young girls  who cover their heads but breast been fondled by guys which sound like whoredoms or prostitutes or Ezekiel 23:3 ? breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed.  Did not such behavior is direct talk God telling us in Bible how one should behave good conduct  rather than prostitutes . If you ask me personally, whenever I jogged in park, notice many tudung /or the covering of head muslims when seen them kissed and guys fondle their breast nothing but prostitutes.  If women has dignity , surly they will behave as per tudung not some show off like wearing tudung but Atas tutup , Bawa buka

The above verses just an explanation that prostitutes was brought out of Egypt because she was youth in beauty and man starting to performs adultery acts to her.  What  wrong with that verses when God speaking in truth???

The following verses show how this prostitutes have not repented but still doing such adultery acts:


Ezekiel 23:3 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. (Whole Chapter: Ezekiel 23 In context: Ezekiel 23:2-4)

Ezekiel 23:5 "Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians-warriors (Whole Chapter: Ezekiel 23 In context: Ezekiel 23:4-6)

Ezekiel 23:8 She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust upon her. (Whole Chapter: Ezekiel 23 In context: Ezekiel 23:7-9)

Ezekiel 23:11 "Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. (Whole Chapter: Ezekiel 23 In context: Ezekiel 23:10-12)


God  want humans to conducts Good sex  thru marriage and not bad sex with adultery or prostitutes . Simple as that!!!!


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 Author| Post time 19-9-2006 04:09 PM | Show all posts
I normally tell my friends :

Do you know that whenever I jogged at park, I noticed some  tudung there can used as sex object. Just spend them  makan u can used them as sex object. U can fondled their breast and etc.

Surly, my friends feel such statements is very troubling because since I am good Christian and maybe they might have different feelings on me because I sound like vulga or sex maniac type.

But wait a minute, did not I speak direct what I saw?? Just like what God of Bible speak direct what this harlots behaving but followers of  Muhamamd trying bring this verses like the whole Bible is porno.



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Post time 19-9-2006 05:26 PM | Show all posts
Bah, taking one verse from Ezekiel 23 is not good enough to hide the whole nature of the passage. Here is the passage, IN FULL.





Ezekiel 23: 1-30.

For a commentary on the passage, see:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... isgusting-language/

- MENJ
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 Author| Post time 19-9-2006 06:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 19-9-2006 05:26 PM
Bah, taking one verse from Ezekiel 23 is not good enough to hide the whole nature of the passage. Here is the passage, IN FULL.



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We all know u , Ahmad Deedat plus the Dr Naik is greatest showman like Satan who want to show off that we are great to exposed that Bible sound porno.  Ultimately truth will exposed soon. Satan trying outsmarts God words. Too bad Ahmad Deedat die with great condemnation with his voice taken out from further mocking Bible plus God made him totally paralyzed  . Menjj will be next who faking the his text here for he agenda.



This what the Bible wrote also read how God warn the whoering and serving idols.


Ezekiel 23:1-30 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

   

Ezekiel 23
1The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

2Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:

3And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.

4And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.

5And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours,

6Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses.

7Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself.

8Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her.

9Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted.

10These discovered her nakedness: they took her sons and her daughters, and slew her with the sword: and she became famous among women; for they had executed judgment upon her.

11And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms.

12She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men.

13Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way,

14And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion,

15Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity:

16And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea.

17And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them.

18So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister.

19Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.

20For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

21Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth.

22Therefore, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is alienated, and I will bring them against thee on every side;

23The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses.

24And they shall come against thee with chariots, wagons, and wheels, and with an assembly of people, which shall set against thee buckler and shield and helmet round about: and I will set judgment before them, and they shall judge thee according to their judgments.

25And I will set my jealousy against thee, and they shall deal furiously with thee: they shall take away thy nose and thine ears; and thy remnant shall fall by the sword: they shall take thy sons and thy daughters; and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire.

26They shall also strip thee out of thy clothes, and take away thy fair jewels.

27Thus will I make thy lewdness to cease from thee, and thy whoredom brought from the land of Egypt: so that thou shalt not lift up thine eyes unto them, nor remember Egypt any more.

28For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will deliver thee into the hand of them whom thou hatest, into the hand of them from whom thy mind is alienated:

29And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.

30I will do these things unto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen, and because thou art polluted with their idols.

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Post time 19-9-2006 06:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 06:07 PM





We all know u , Ahmad Deedat plus the Dr Naik is greatest showman like Satan who want to show off that we are great to exposed that Bible sound porno.  Ultimately truth will exposed soon. ...


You should be proud coz Ezekiel 23 is inspiration for porn film makers, good storyline. Be proud la..
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 04:09 PM
I normally tell my friends :

Do you know that whenever I jogged at park, I noticed most tudung there can used as sex object. Just spend them  makan u can used them as sex object. U can fondled t ...


Why dont u tell this to ur parents ? Muahahaha, u say they are muslims rite ? Good Liar
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:24 PM | Show all posts
All religions also have their own ugliness. Just because you see something ugly in others religion doesn't mean yours don't have ugliness too.
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 Author| Post time 19-9-2006 06:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 19-9-2006 06:24 PM


Why dont u tell this to ur parents ? Muahahaha, u say they are muslims rite ? Good Liar



any comment or running out idea or still want to attacked me 'why not tell ur  parents' muahhahahahah
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 Author| Post time 19-9-2006 06:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 19-9-2006 06:22 PM


You should be proud coz Ezekiel 23 is inspiration for porn film makers, good storyline. Be proud la..



...in petaling street many porno vcd starts acted by muslims girlsssssssssssssssss .guess what? who is film marker?? muslims themselves
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 Author| Post time 19-9-2006 06:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by davidchemic at 19-9-2006 06:24 PM
All religions also have their own ugliness. Just because you see something ugly in others religion doesn't mean yours don't have ugliness too.


u hve to tell this to muhammad followers because they think they so white and prefect. why not u go parks...judge for urself. seeing is believing.
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:31 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 06:27 PM



...in petaling street many porno vcd starts acted by muslims girlsssssssssssssssss .guess what? who is film marker?? muslims themselves


Cant deny the fact porno filmakers got inspiration from Ezekiel 23. Muahahaha
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 Author| Post time 19-9-2006 06:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 19-9-2006 06:31 PM


Cant deny the fact porno filmakers got inspiration from Ezekiel 23. Muahahaha



U mean the founder of islam who married 6 yrs girl and having 9+++ wives and those muhammad followers got inspiration from EZekiel 23??

wrong because Ezekiel 23 is warning that man and womens should conduct Good Sex thru marriaged.
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 06:07 PM

We all know u , Ahmad Deedat plus the Dr Naik is greatest showman like Satan who want to show off that we are great to exposed that Bible sound porno.  Ultimately truth will exposed soon. ...



Gee...I have no idea why you have to bring Sheikh Deedat and Dr Naik into the discussion. We did not even make the slightest mention of them. All we did was to post the scans FROM YOUR OWN BIBLE of the passage from Ezekiel 23. its so obvious a porno work that only the blind will not be able to see it.

What does it have got to do with Sheikh Deedat? No idea. What does it have got to do with Dr Naik? Also, no idea. Just Mr Liar here trying to erect a strawman and trying to knock it down.

- MENJ
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 06:29 PM


u hve to tell this to muhammad followers because they think they so white and prefect. why not u go parks...judge for urself. seeing is believing.


Are you jealous ? Muahahaha, show me any verse from Holy Quran which contain any vulgar words like in Ezekiel 23. Its a challenge to you!!
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 06:27 PM
...in petaling street many porno vcd starts acted by muslims girlsssssssssssssssss .guess what? who is film marker?? muslims themselves


Still not answering the issue of Ezekiel 23!

- MENJ
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 19-9-2006 06:35 PM



Gee...I have no idea why you have to bring Sheikh Deedat and Dr Naik into the discussion. We did not even make the slightest mention of them. All we did was to post the scans FROM YOUR OWN BI ...


Its just a sign from a desperate Christian. Muahaha
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 19-9-2006 06:34 PM

wrong because Ezekiel 23 is warning that man and wom ...


So its "good sex" for whores from Egypt to conduct gangbang with men from Assyria and other nations.

- MENJ
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 19-9-2006 06:36 PM


Its just a sign from a desperate Christian. Muahaha


Indeed, I couldnt agree more.

Tonight I will see if I can post the ORIGINAL SCANS from Alkitab Bahasa Indonesia and Alkitab Berita Baik (Malaysia) which is in Indonesian and Malay respectively. See whether this stupid Christian will accuse me of copying from Deedat or Naik, since its obvious that both men cannot speak/read Indonesian or Malay anyway.

- MENJ
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Post time 19-9-2006 06:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 19-9-2006 06:36 PM


Still not answering the issue of Ezekiel 23!

- MENJ


I see only Truth8 doing all the hardwork nonsense here yet not discussing the topic. Other Christians all where? Fence sitters only?

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14 "But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeans [a] portrayed in red, 15 with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea. 16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled. [c]


Donkeys genital and Horses emission ?  lol
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