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Confirmed that some hadith is not reliable claimed by muslims

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Post time 28-9-2006 01:49 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Originally posted by LostSoul at 28-9-2006 01:11 PM
well, what they said is true. some hadiths are not reliable. !!!

Originally posted by i212 at 28-9-2006 01:30 PM
HEY CHILD, ALL MUSLIM ADMIT THAT SOME HADITH ARE NOT RELIABLE. YOU CAN ASK ALL SCHOLARS.
IF IN A BOOK HAVE CONTRADICTION, DO YOU BELIEVE IN THAT BOOK?




U see, after I exposed the lying pen of Islam , we see that Muslims acknowledged and agreed that some hadith is not reliable. When I create topic  fish liver in Islam paradise,  muslims remained speechless and confused because I am sure some muslims little confused why such hadith.

Than,  muslims says that there are some unreliable hadith which is not trustworthy  by the author.

The question, if such hadith is not trustworthy , how many unreliable hadith? What abt  Koran??

Yet, muslims so good in judging others faith like the Bible when they called it porno and corrupt. They can't  even correct their own path yet they judge others.

In my faith, never I utter that Bible is corrupt or not reliable but Muslims contradict each other by saying some hadith is not reliable.

God in Bible says  "all fake religion are confusion ,  why God says that way " Because satan is master of great  deception and gives confusion to humans. All religion who do not followed God of Bible are fall into this category. That's  is why u can see why Muslims and Muslims killed each other even in chant Islam is peace but Satan comes in brought confusion in their faith like those hadith.

Think


p/s : muslims like to label Jews and Christians as lying pen,  now it shoot at them back!!!


[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 28-9-2006 02:00 PM ]
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Post time 28-9-2006 01:58 PM | Show all posts
don't you see how dumb u r? did we contradict ourselves? ask all of us, and we will say the same. some hadiths are false, not reliable. so, what's your point??? this really makes you lok dumber than ever, truth.8. tsk tsk pity!

and ask any of us, we will always said "Qu'ran is words of God". no question asked. so words of God always reliable. duhhh...
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Firstly Truth.8...

Go to basic knowledge.
For MUSLIM:
1) QURAN are the main reference because its containt GOD command. There is no Contradiction or doubt on IT.
2) HADITH are the reference that created by Ulama/High Scholars. Its contain Prophet Muhammad daily preaches or encounters. Its also contain Scholars understanding and also Opinions.

FOR CHRISTIANS
1) BIBLE ARE THE MAIN REFERENCE BY THEM. THEY BELIEVE ALL THE CONTAIN IN BIBLE ARE GOD WORDS.
  - ITS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS.
  - TRINITY OR NOT?


Muslim COMPARING BIBLE with QURAN. NOT BIBLE WITH HADITH. WHY?
BECAUSE ALL PEOPLE BELIEVE ITS FROM GOD NOT HUMAN.


IN TRUTH.8 Statement.
HE COMPARING BIBLE WITH HADITH.
THATS MEAN HE AGREE BIBLE ARE WORDS OF HUMAN.

SO, WHAT MUSLIM SAID BIBLE ARE MIX OF HUMAN WORDS ARE AGREED BY TRUTH.8....
SO, THE RESULT IS,
     
      BIBLE ARE MIX OF HUMAN WORDS. (From Truth.8 analysis.)
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:10 PM | Show all posts
Not sure what this fella is talking about. Of course not all the hadith are reliable, and we have the muhaddith to scrutinise the hadith and determine which ones are authentic and which ones are false. What is this Liar arguing about, anyway?

- MENJ
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:25 PM | Show all posts
in islam hadith is true and accept to all if its come from Nabi Muhammad S.A.W, if not we must look at hadith and refer to the al-quran.because all muhammad said refer to the al-quran and nabi muhammad is perfect.
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 Author| Post time 28-9-2006 02:26 PM | Show all posts
It's  funny because Muslims here as well other part of world like to used very unpleasant words if were to question their faith.  Some words that they call me :

dumb
liar
idiot
stupid
some to racist statements like keling /or pariah
dumb liar and list goes on

.....and muslims are angel , they are not liar or dumb or whatever

Those words surly do not comes from true God peoples.

We can smell satan tactic by words even it comes like cunning way like giving peace or systematical  religion but by their fruits we know them as per what the Bible  sayings.
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 28-9-2006 02:26 PM
It's  funny because Muslims here as well other part of world like to used very unpleasant words if were to question their faith.  Some words that they call me :

dumb
liar
idiot
stupid
some  ...


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Post time 28-9-2006 02:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 28-9-2006 02:26 PM
Some words that they call me :

dumb
liar
idiot
stupid
some  ...


It fits you.

- MENJ
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 Author| Post time 28-9-2006 02:31 PM | Show all posts
It's  funny because Muslims here as well other part of world like to used very unpleasant words if were to question their faith.  Some words that they call me :

dumb
liar
idiot
stupid
some to racist statements like keling /or pariah
dumb liar and list goes on

.....and muslims are angel , they are not liar or dumb or whatever

Those words surly do not comes from true God peoples.

We can smell satan tactic by words even it comes like cunning way like giving peace or systematical  religion but by their fruits we know them as per what the Bible  sayings.


Originally posted by i212 at 28-9-2006 01:26 PM
QURAN ARE MOST RELIABLE AND PERFECT. IF IN QURAN HAVE THE VERSE, SO, WE WILL ENJOY FISH LIVER IN PARADISE. YUMMMMMYYYY.


We also have dumb Muslim who still believed in fish liver in Koran not in hadith yet he/she trying judges us by judging the Bible.

Worst enjoying the fish liver with yummmmmyyy
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 Author| Post time 28-9-2006 02:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nice2000 at 28-9-2006 02:25 PM
in islam hadith is true and accept to all if its come from Nabi Muhammad S.A.W, if not we must look at hadith and refer to the al-quran.because all muhammad said refer to the al-quran and nabi muha ...



if is true why some muslims view some hadith not reliable? u mean u believed those fish liver as for first meal once enter paradise , weddings and etc in islam paradise
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:36 PM | Show all posts
QURAN ARE MOST RELIABLE AND PERFECT. IF IN QURAN HAVE THE VERSE, SO, WE WILL ENJOY FISH LIVER IN PARADISE. YUMMMMMYYYY.


We also have dumb Muslim who still believed in fish liver in Koran not in hadith yet he/she trying judges us by judging the Bible.

Worst enjoying the fish liver with yummmmmyyy
-------------------------------
Did I said it from Quran.

I said IF in Quran Have that verse.

Thats why people call you DUMB.
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:38 PM | Show all posts
if is true why some muslims view some hadith not reliable? u mean u believed those fish liver as for first meal once enter paradise , weddings and etc in islam paradise
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Wedding in Paradise?... who thought you that?
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:39 PM | Show all posts
whatever..........................
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 Author| Post time 28-9-2006 02:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by LostSoul at 28-9-2006 01:58 PM
don't you see how dumb u r? did we contradict ourselves? ask all of us, and we will say the same. some hadiths are false, not reliable. so, what's your point??? this really makes you lok dumber than ever, truth.8. tsk tsk pity!

and ask any of us, we will always said "Qu'ran is words of God". no question asked. so words of God always reliable. duhhh...

...



how can i be dumb because some muslims says some hadith are not reliable and some says no.

did not it contradict and confusion that u muslims suffering?
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:41 PM | Show all posts
PLEASE ASK REASONABLE QUESTIONS.. PLEASSSSSEEEEEE
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 Author| Post time 28-9-2006 02:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 28-9-2006 02:38 PM
Wedding in Paradise?... who thought you that?
...



u mean never about it? yet u trying to be smart here and jugding the Bible??
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:43 PM | Show all posts
u mean never about it? yet u trying to be smart here and jugding the Bible??
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WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

mean never about it?... whats is the questions?
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:49 PM | Show all posts
itu mengikut kata2 orang islam yang x kenal islam yang sebenar lagi........klu nak tahu yang sebenar kenalah rujuk yang betul ok...seperti pak imam yang bertauliah........begitu juga kristian x semuanye arif pasal kristian......jawapannya hadis wajib di percayai jika ia sohih(yang membawa maksud ucapan yang keluar dari nabi Muhammad Rasullullah s.a.w) jika ia bukan datang dari muhammad s.a.w maka ia kena merujuk kepada al-quran terlebih dahulu.....kerana al-quran ayat dari Allah S.W.T.........

dan al-quran x sama mcm bible.........kerana ia datang dari allah segala ayat2 yang terkandung didalam itu
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 Author| Post time 28-9-2006 02:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 28-9-2006 02:43 PM
u mean never about it? yet u trying to be smart here and jugding the Bible??
--------

WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

mean never about it?... whats is the questions?



did not u sound  like dumb now? did not u ask
Originally posted by i212 at 28-9-2006 02:38 PM
Wedding in Paradise?... who thought you that?
...


u didn't know such paradise in muslims has weddings?? is that diff cult for u understand or u trying to avoid because u are embarrassed?
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Post time 28-9-2006 02:50 PM | Show all posts
itu mengikut kata2 orang islam yang x kenal islam yang sebenar lagi........klu nak tahu yang sebenar kenalah rujuk yang betul ok...seperti pak imam yang bertauliah........begitu juga kristian x semuanye arif pasal kristian......jawapannya hadis wajib di percayai jika ia sohih(yang membawa maksud ucapan yang keluar dari nabi Muhammad Rasullullah s.a.w) jika ia bukan datang dari muhammad s.a.w maka ia kena merujuk kepada al-quran terlebih dahulu.....kerana al-quran ayat dari Allah S.W.T.........

dan al-quran x sama mcm bible.........kerana ia datang dari allah segala ayat2 yang terkandung didalam itu
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