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Muslims got no idea on spirit and where it from?

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 Author| Post time 4-10-2006 02:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 4-10-2006 02:13 PM
wait wait wait. before we start arguing whether it's spirit or soul, let's see the definition of spirit.

One of the definitions of spirit is indeed soul. so it can be used interchangaably. If you really want people to stick with spirit here, i suggest defining it and show the difference between the two so that we can be sure that we're talking about the same thing here.


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Let see what the Bible says about this tomorrow.
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 4-10-2006 02:23 PM


...because some muslims will be free after buka posa to come here. so give them chance ....see what kind of  view they give.


We will not be free. Tarawih prayers. Show us now. Stop making excuses just because you want to bide time to cook up some nonsensical answers for you do not have one right now
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:25 PM | Show all posts
i will quote Bible verses to support my claimed on spirit as per Bible sayings and it locate in brain.

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WHERE THE VERSE.....
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 4-10-2006 02:23 PM


...because some muslims will be free after buka posa to come here. so give them chance ....see what kind of  view they give.


Why cant u see their views later.. What it have do to with u revealing it now ???
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:28 PM | Show all posts
Assalamualaikum kepada saudara-saudara muslim,

Nampaknye Truth.8 tidak berputus asa menghentam/menghina/memperlekeh agama Islam.Ada saja topik yang ditonjolkan memperkecilkan agama Islam.Sebenarnya Islam adalah agama Allah dan segala kata-katanya di dalam Al Quran adalah benar dan tidak perlulah kita mempersoalkan tentang kebenarannya.Saya berharap agar muslimin sekalian tidak perlu menjawab/melayan soalan-soalan yang tidak berasas seperti ini,sia-sia saja usaha kamu semua tu.

Kepada Truth.8,
tidak perlu pula mempersoalkan tentang agama orang lain,cukuplah jika kamu belajar mendalami kepercayaan kamu sendiri.Jika ada pun soalan-soalan  tentang Islam yang betul-betul kamu ragu forum ini bukanlah tempat untuk kamu bertanya,sebaliknya carilah seorang guru agama yang benar-benar faham tentang Islam,kan lebih baik belajar dari seorang guru.Saya yakin forumer-forumer muslim disini pun bukan begitu dalam pengetahuannya dalam Islam-sekadar berpegang kepada kepercayaan Islam pun sudah memadai.Kamu tak percaya dan tak yakin dengan Islam adalah hak kamu,tak perlu kamu mengutuk/menghina/menghentam/cuba memesongkan akidah muslim.Setiap soalan kamu yang dijawab oleh muslim pasti kamu cuba putar belitkan.Kalau kamu dah tak percaya,walau diberi apa saja bukti pun,kamu tetap dengan pegangan kamu,sia-sia saja melayan kamu ni.Satu lagi,kamu ni tak ada kerja ke?24 jam bertenggek kat forum ni.Please MYOB.Thanx...

Wassalam
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:31 PM | Show all posts
This is the Islamic stand:

According to the Qur'anic verse provided by i212 and me above, a limited knowledge of the Spirit is given. Nevertheless even this limited knowledge is still knowledge. We  consider Man is a body of bones and flesh, though that Man is nothing but fiction. The real Man is the one that protects that skeleton of flesh and keeps it in motion, whom the Qur'an calls ruh (Spirit). This ruh, in order to fulfill the needs of life uses a medium. We call this medium, chromosomes. In the Qur'an, God has said that, "We poured Our ruh in him (Adam)."  In other words, ruh created a medium and after that gave him the senses. ruh is in fact a component created by The Divine (God Almighty)  and in it all the knowledge of Divine Discretions and Attributes are present, which God so Willed. Just how this knowledge was acquired by the component, is a Divine Mystery, which could never be explained by man


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Post time 4-10-2006 02:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 4-10-2006 02:28 PM
Kalau kamu dah tak percaya,walau diberi apa saja bukti pun,kamu tetap dengan pegangan kamu,sia-sia saja melayan kamu ni

waalaikumussalam, i agree on this part.

just want to say thanx all my muslim friends, at least i learn something from ur post. alhamdulillah.
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:35 PM | Show all posts
T8


WHERE IS THE VERSE
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Post time 4-10-2006 02:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 4-10-2006 02:31 PM
This is the Islamic stand:

According to the Qur'anic verse provided by i212 and me above, a limited knowledge of the Spirit is given. Nevertheless even this limited knowledge is still knowledge. ...



:setuju::setuju::setuju:
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 Author| Post time 4-10-2006 03:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 4-10-2006 02:25 PM


We will not be free. Tarawih prayers. Show us now. Stop making excuses just because you want to bide time to cook up some nonsensical answers for you do not have one right now



sabar itu sebagai dari iman...taugh by ur religion rite? so why cant wait tomorrow
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Post time 4-10-2006 03:10 PM | Show all posts
Dan tidakkah agama kamu mengajar menghormati agama lain?
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 Author| Post time 4-10-2006 03:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 4-10-2006 02:28 PM
Assalamualaikum kepada saudara-saudara muslim,

Nampaknye Truth.8 tidak berputus asa menghentam/menghina/memperlekeh agama Islam.Ada saja topik yang ditonjolkan memperkecilkan agama Islam.Sebenarnya Islam adalah agama Allah dan segala kata-katanya di dalam Al Quran adalah benar dan tidak perlulah kita mempersoalkan tentang kebenarannya.Saya berharap agar muslimin sekalian tidak perlu menjawab/melayan soalan-soalan yang tidak berasas seperti ini,sia-sia saja usaha kamu semua tu.

Kepada Truth.8,
tidak perlu pula mempersoalkan tentang agama orang lain,cukuplah jika kamu belajar mendalami kepercayaan kamu sendiri.Jika ada pun soalan-soalan  tentang Islam yang betul-betul kamu ragu forum ini bukanlah tempat untuk kamu bertanya,sebaliknya carilah seorang guru agama yang benar-benar faham tentang Islam,kan lebih baik belajar dari seorang guru.Saya yakin forumer-forumer muslim disini pun bukan begitu dalam pengetahuannya dalam Islam-sekadar berpegang kepada kepercayaan Islam pun sudah memadai.Kamu tak percaya dan tak yakin dengan Islam adalah hak kamu,tak perlu kamu mengutuk/menghina/menghentam/cuba memesongkan akidah muslim.Setiap soalan kamu yang dijawab oleh muslim pasti kamu cuba putar belitkan.Kalau kamu dah tak percaya,walau diberi apa saja bukti pun,kamu tetap dengan pegangan kamu,sia-sia saja melayan kamu ni.Satu lagi,kamu ni tak ada kerja ke?24 jam bertenggek kat forum ni.Please MYOB.Thanx...

Wassalam ...


helo mr newbie atau nick lyg lama tapi pakai newbie.

berkongsi pendapat & pengetahuan  adalah lebih baik dari membuat fitnah , membuang masa tanpa sebarang faedah dan sebagai nya.

mungkin awak rasa marah kerana saya menegakkan kebenaran tapi itu lah hakikatnya....syaitan sentiasa marah pada kebenaran.

pasal saya tidak ada kerja, jgn risau sebab saya boleh  bagi-bagikan masa untuk 'spiritual dan kerja"

renungkan lah
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Post time 4-10-2006 03:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 4-10-2006 03:07 PM



sabar itu sebagai dari iman...taugh by ur religion rite? so why cant wait tomorrow



The bible does not even talk about the brain...so you have the whole night searching for the word...


Does the Bible Speak of the Brain?

Ed Babinski

Does the Bible or the witless Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz mention the brain more frequently? If your answer was the scarecrow, you are right. The Bible mentions a number of key human organs, such as the heart, blood, bowels, liver, and kidneys, but never mentions the most important organ of all, the brain. This is not unusual, of course, unless you happen to view the Bible as an inspired scientific textbook, in which case it would appear to be missing a bit of vital information



http://www.infidels.org/library/ ... 993/1/1brain93.html

Remember T.8...we want the word 'brain' from your bible and also that "the spirit is located in the brain"..

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 Author| Post time 4-10-2006 03:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 4-10-2006 03:10 PM
Dan tidakkah agama kamu mengajar menghormati agama lain?


apakah agama ajaran kamu membuat demikian???
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 Author| Post time 4-10-2006 03:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 4-10-2006 03:13 PM



The bible does not even talk about the brain...so you have the whole night searching for the word...


Does the Bible Speak of the Brain?

Ed Babinski

Does the Bible or the witles ...


oh really? we will see tomorrow
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Post time 4-10-2006 03:20 PM | Show all posts
hehehe, pelik betul la

why tommorow?? why not today??

having a problem t8?
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Post time 4-10-2006 03:21 PM | Show all posts
if you talk about tegakkan kebenaran

u have to do it fast .. mana boleh tangguh2 ...

keh keh keh
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 Author| Post time 4-10-2006 03:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dak_ker at 4-10-2006 03:20 PM
hehehe, pelik betul la

why tommorow?? why not today??

having a problem t8?



i want to see how many muslims aware of this spirit things and what does the koran teaches . when i mentioned sprit things it mean where in our body.

so, u hve no idea where is our body spirit are planted?
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Post time 4-10-2006 03:35 PM | Show all posts
Berkongsi pendapat dan pengetahuan memang di galakkan dalam Islam, tetapi jika dah di tahap melampau/memperlekehkan agama Islam adalah salah.Apa perlu saya marah dengan kenyataan awak,sedangkan itu pendapat awak,saya menghormatinya.Hakikatnya awak tidak tahu mana yang betul dan salah.Bolehkah saya bertanya apakah perkerjaan kamu sampai begitu banyak masa terluang?
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Post time 4-10-2006 03:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 4-10-2006 03:14 PM


oh really? we will see tomorrow


Islam and the brain:



http://www.55a.net/en/miracles/a023.php


http://www.answering-christianity.com/movement_control.htm


http://members.fortunecity.com/miracles/science/index.html
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