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JESUS VS PAUL # where to pray?

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Post time 19-10-2006 11:31 AM | Show all posts
by Debmey
Can't one pray lifting up holy hands in closet? Where is the contradiction?

Why are Muslims disobeying God and praying so loudly for show?
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Its Jesus' teaching. You muslims have contradicted it.

It seems like our fren Mgsrulz have ni idea what he pastes all the time. It always ends up contradicting the islamic position.
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The point is not that one pray publicly but to make it a point to broadcast it to all that you pray. To God, that is vanity.

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We Christians are free to voice our views just as you are free to voice yours.
Why do you think you have the monopoly to opinion?

Fornication, adultery and paedophilia is sinful.

peace

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same as why you don't follow quran

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Ahahahahahaha............... algon seems to play dumb here. really childish
The meaning of closet simply means prayer is a private matter between man and God.
That is the understanding to all Christians since then and no one interprets it any other way.

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Not true. If you read the entire Matthew 5, 6 and &, you will realised that Jesus was speaking in metaphors throughout.
I don't see what is the point of you attacking the use of metaphors when no one ever took it literal. Ahahahahahaha
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It means when muslims pray loudly 5 times a day, its against God's will.
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Which one?

Its not answer my question.

my question is

So... why still have church. Is that mean whoever go to church are hypocrites?

Is that mean praying in the house are Better than praying at Church?


So... whats is your answer.
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Post time 19-10-2006 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Ah... I see you are confused because you can't read.

Mat 6 simply put means that prayer must be sincere and personal, not to be used as a tool to show of piousness like what msulims do.
Its really the attitude that counts, not the location.
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Post time 19-10-2006 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Ah... I see you are confused because you can't read.

Mat 6 simply put means that prayer must be sincere and personal, not to be used as a tool to show of piousness like what msulims do.
Its really the attitude that counts, not the location.
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Post time 19-10-2006 11:39 AM | Show all posts
So why must muslims pray thru our facing loudspeakers when prayer is meant to be personal?
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Post time 19-10-2006 11:52 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 11:38 AM
Ah... I see you are confused because you can't read.

Mat 6 simply put means that prayer must be sincere and personal, not to be used as a tool to show of piousness like what msulims do.
Its rea ...


Heheh... some of your friend said that its the best way to pray inside room. Do not need to pray outside. heheheh
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Post time 19-10-2006 11:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 11:39 AM
So why must muslims pray thru our facing loudspeakers when prayer is meant to be personal?


We not pray facing loudspeaker.
Loudspeaker are new technology.
We use it so people who sell it get some money.   

Athan is a sign that the time for us to pray already come.
We have the specific time. :lebai:

Can I ask you, why Church ringing their Bell?

[ Last edited by  i212 at 19-10-2006 11:57 AM ]
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:21 PM | Show all posts
You see, you people are hypocrites. You need to braodcast your sytupid prayers so that the crowd outside can hear you pray.

Ahahahahahahhaa....................
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:36 PM | Show all posts
by Debmey
You see, you people are hypocrites. You need to braodcast your sytupid prayers so that the crowd outside can hear you pray.



Do you know what is Athan? seem like you do not.
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:40 PM | Show all posts
You blast your prayer with loudspeakers out of the building, period.
Seems like you don't even know what is prayer.

You are exactly like the hypocrites Jesus described. You see teh need to announce you are praying out loud to all.

[ Last edited by  Debmey at 19-10-2006 12:41 PM ]
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:55 PM | Show all posts
by Debmey
You blast your prayer with loudspeakers out of the building, period.
Seems like you don't even know what is prayer.

You are exactly like the hypocrites Jesus described. You see teh need to announce you are praying out loud to all.


Hmmm... See... you make assumption only.
Its not all people who pray at public are Hypocrite.


Jesus say people who pray in public with intention to show off are Hypocrytes.

I think thats why Christians church seem like unattended. Because people do not want to be hypocrites by going there.

heheheheheheheh
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Post time 19-10-2006 01:31 PM | Show all posts
People are not hypocrite bey attended or not attedning church. People are hypocrites when they broadcst their prayer and let everybody know abt it.

BTW, churches are growing all over the world, not shrinking. Thats why there are more than 2 billion Christians today and Muslims are so scared of us.
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Post time 19-10-2006 02:11 PM | Show all posts
hahaha... what a stupid reasoning.. church all around the world also using loud speaker when they are praying especially during saturday and sunday... don't you know that??

Why must we scared of you?? what is the point??.. you know.. here in brisbane, even it is dominated by white people ( traditionally christian), the person who sceptical about christian is they themselves.. They even dare to challange openly when someone deliver christian talk in the public.. What kind of christian is that?? why shoul us afraid to people like that??
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Post time 19-10-2006 02:26 PM | Show all posts
TAMAM... Maybe you can give some view from there..
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Post time 19-10-2006 02:55 PM | Show all posts
The view is, muslism are stick in hypocrisy.
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Post time 19-10-2006 03:16 PM | Show all posts
by Debmey
The view is, muslism are stick in hypocrisy.

see... another clumsy assumption.
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Post time 19-10-2006 03:20 PM | Show all posts
Its b=not an assumption, ist teh truth. You people do use loudspeakers facing out when you pray, 5 times a day. Thats hypocrissy
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Post time 19-10-2006 03:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 19-10-2006 03:16 PM

see... another clumsy assumption.

:setuju::setuju::setuju::setuju::setuju:

patutlah dia tak naik-naik jadi mod...:nerd::nerd::nerd:
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Post time 19-10-2006 03:40 PM | Show all posts
by Debmey
You people do use loudspeakers facing out when you pray, 5 times a day. Thats hypocrissy

Nope... for me not hypocrisy.

You know why?
1) I know when to pray.
2) In the morning, dont need alarm clock to get up, so... i can wake up early for work.
3) They dont know how to use it. Sometime loud, sometime very loud, sometime ok... sometime NONE. hehehe...

They just using technology maaa....
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Post time 19-10-2006 03:50 PM | Show all posts
When you don't use out facing loudspeaker, its OK, but when you use it when you don't need to, you are hypocrite.
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Post time 19-10-2006 03:53 PM | Show all posts
by Debmey
When you don't use out facing loudspeaker, its OK, but when you use it when you don't need to, you are hypocrite.

They use it wisely what... to tell people there are time for pray.
If mosque cover a large location, the speaker may be louder.


You see.. loud or not loud are not the key... The important thing is what in our Heart.

Even if you pray alone in your house but you do it not with sincerity, its also hypocrytes.
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