Hmph ... Muslims loves to shoot their mouths

Sephiroth

Source : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061 ... n/australia_muslims

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By ROHAN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writer
Thu Oct 26, 2:57 PM ET

SYDNEY, Australia - Australia's most prominent Islamic cleric vowed Thursday to stand strong against widespread outrage over his description of women who don't wear head scarfs as "uncovered meat" who invite rape.

Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali, long a lightning rod in strained relations between the government and the Muslim minority, apologized for any offense he caused women in making the comments a month ago during a sermon marking the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. But he said he had no intention of stepping down.

In a translation from Arabic by the newspaper, later verified by other media, al-Hilali was quoted as saying in the sermon: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside ... and the cats come to eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's?"

"The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred," he was quoted as saying, referring to the head scarf worn by some Muslim women.

Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward said al-Hilali's comments encouraged rape and that Muslims should force him to step down.

"This is inciting young men to a violent crime because it is the woman's fault," Goward told television's Nine Network. "It is time the Islamic community did more than say they were horrified. I think it is time he left."

Howard said the comments were "appalling and reprehensible."

"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous," he told reporters.
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Can ANY Muslims here can actually say that women who are wearing hijab are safe from Rape? :hmm:
I don't think they can.

Because MEN are at fault when they use physical violent and rape women. THEY cannot control themselves and their lust and attend to behave like animals. WHY should blame women?

Einard

Yea... because they dont believe in inherited sin. we were born sinless they said... thats why when a woman naked infront of them.. they can rape the woman.. its the woman thats made them sin. Taking of their cloth and cover the woman is a dumb thing to do. A "bug" in the system.

Muslims loves to shoot their mouths

Muslims plural

Loves is for singular lah.

Sephiroth

by Einard   

Yea... because they dont believe in inherited sin. we were born sinless they said... thats why when a woman naked infront of them.. they can rape the woman.. its the woman thats made them sin. Taking of their cloth and cover the woman is a dumb thing to do. A "bug" in the system.   

Hello ... thinking that you commit sin BECAUSE some fellow in God-knows when have sinned and that sin is inherited generation upon generations is RIDDICULOS. ;)

And Christians are the last bunch to be talking about Sins. In their societies, there are plenty of Sinful activities. :no:

Sephiroth

Well, obvious question here is - Are women who wears Hijab SAFE from Rape?

Well, according to the bottom source, answer is NO :

Source : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061027/ap_on_re_eu/un_women_violence

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By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer
37 minutes ago

UNITED NATIONS - Women are facing increasing violence in Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia, especially when they speak out publicly to defend women's rights, a senior U.N. official told the  U.N. Security Council.

Undersecretary-General for Peacekeeping Jean-Marie Guehenno said that, in the past year, Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf became the first woman head of state in Africa, Liberia adopted an anti-rape law, women in Sierra Leone pushed for laws on human trafficking, inheritance and property rights and women in        East Timor submitted a draft domestic violence bill to parliament.

Despite these positive developments, he said, women face widespread insecurity and in many societies violence is still used as a tool to control and regulate the actions of women and girls seeking to rebuild their homes and communities.

"In Afghanistan, attacks on school establishments put the lives of girls at risk when they attempt to exercise their basic rights to education," Guehenno said. "Women and girls are raped when they go out to fetch firewood in Darfur. In Liberia, over 40 percent of women and girls surveyed have been victims of sexual violence. In the eastern Congo, over 12,000 rapes of women and girls have been reported in the last six months alone."
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Many of the place like Sudan, Congo, Afghan and such are places where Islam influence is strong and Hijab is a must, BUT rape and sexual abuse still happens. WHY?

Because Muslims MEN cannot control their Lusts. That's why. It has nothing to do with any "meat" being displayed. :no:

Because Muslims MEN cannot control their Lusts

Stupid generalization!! Go see ur Khajuraho temple which have explicit dolls in sexual positions for Hindus see and worship!! Its for Hindus who cant control their lusts !! Even Hindu temple here display sexy dolls to lure Hindus to go to temple. Pathetic !

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 27-10-2006 04:35 PM


Stupid generalization!! Go see ur Khajuraho temple which have explicit dolls in sexual positions for Hindus see and worship!! Its for Hindus who cant control their lusts !! Even Hindu temple he ...

Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali is the Mufti of Australia. is that generalization? or you're just ashamed of him being a Muslim and trying hard to deny him as one of your brothers just because he said something about 'unwrapped' meat brings trouble?

Mufti of Australia, Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali, in his Sydney office.

Originally posted by weedkiller at 27-10-2006 05:29 PM


Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali is the Mufti of Australia. is that generalization? or you're just ashamed of him being a Muslim and trying hard to deny him as one of your brothers just because he said ...

Whats the problem with you ? Sephiroth says Muslims mens cant control lusts. How about Christian man? Hindu man ? Can they control lusts ? Thats why i say stupid generalization. Lusts does not belong to a religion. Do u understand ?

13Friday

about lusts and find the excuse to rape women, because in heaven they enjoy the 72 houri.


so this is their training ground to grab more women.

Originally posted by 13Friday at 27-10-2006 07:31 PM
about lusts and find the excuse to rape women, because in heaven they enjoy the 72 houri.


so this is their training ground to grab more women.

What a baseless post !

TAMAM

Originally posted by samerosie at 27-10-2006 01:14 PM


Muslims plural

Loves is for singular lah.

hahahah... sepiroth  baru nak belajar grammar...

RedChaSiew

western women =  uncovered meat....  is that halal or  non halal meat.

i just think sheikhs and mufti's like these are a burden on the tax paying public. apparently he is subsidised by the white people of australia.

i think it is better these people just go back to whatever hell hole they came from.

Sephiroth

by SilentKiller   

Stupid generalization!! Go see ur Khajuraho temple which have explicit dolls in sexual positions for Hindus see and worship!! Its for Hindus who cant control their lusts !! Even Hindu temple here display sexy dolls to lure Hindus to go to temple. Pathetic !  

This is not generalization, this is FACT.

Muslims CANNOT control that "little thing" between their legs which makes them rape their women and make accuse that women revealed their bodies so they invite rape OR some "devil" make them rape.

Stupid Animals. ;)

Debmey

This mufti really resign. how can he make such statements that will justify rapes?
Islam is truely a crap religion if muslims support this immoral guy.

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 30-10-2006 08:51 AM
by SilentKiller   

Stupid generalization!! Go see ur Khajuraho temple which have explicit dolls in sexual positions for Hindus see and worship!! Its for Hindus who cant control their lusts !! E ...

How about Hindu man ? Why no comment from you ? This is a stupid generalization from you. Just admit it !

Originally posted by Debmey at 30-10-2006 08:54 AM
This mufti really resign. how can he make such statements that will justify rapes?
Islam is truely a crap religion if muslims support this immoral guy.

What u mean by immoral guy ? How about your incest bound prophet in your Crap Bible ?

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 27-10-2006 05:39 PM


Whats the problem with you ? Sephiroth says Muslims mens cant control lusts. How about Christian man? Hindu man ? Can they control lusts ? Thats why i say stupid generalization. Lusts does not  ...

his speech itself makes it looks like muslim men can't control lust. in order for them to control their lust they 'force' woman to wear headscarf. where is the logic in that? and now we can see someone is trying to dig his way out by banging other religion thru craps like khajuraho temple and sex related topics in the bible. what a pure loser. hey anyone wants to start a vote and see how many votes we can get for silentkiller for being a loser?

Originally posted by weedkiller at 30-10-2006 07:21 PM

his speech itself makes it looks like muslim men can't control lust. in order for them to control their lust they 'force' woman to wear headscarf. where is the logic in that? and now we can see s ...

Well, u r the biggest LOSER here. I have no problem with the poll, just include ur name too, lets see who gets the most votes for being the LOSER. You certainly dont understand what is stupid generalization! You dont have the guts to talk about Khajuraho temple is it ?

the mufti himself is already generalizing in the first place and not Sephiroth. he said that woman who don't wear scarf is inviting rape. isn't that generalizing too? didn't you read what he said? or you're too dumb to understand? and what does khajuraho temple got to do with me or you when you yourself can't even defend your religion.

[ Last edited by  weedkiller at 30-10-2006 08:35 PM ]