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Author: jazim

Golongan Anti Perbelanjaan Pertahanan

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Post time 28-3-2008 12:04 AM | Show all posts

Reply #41 Gemukkkkkkk's post

saya dgn sukacita menyokong sepenuh nya cadangan jenderal muk...
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Post time 28-3-2008 01:31 AM | Show all posts
Kalo kiter bandingkan bajet defend Malaysia dengan negara lain di Asean; ok jer. Cuma mesti lebih telus dari segi pembelian. Of corse, all Jp must die!!! :@

Vietnam - 3.2 bilion US(2005)
Thailand - 1.77 bilion US
Malaysia - 1.69 bilon US
Phiipines - 1.34 bilon US (2007)
Indonesia - 1.3 bilon US (2007)

Of corse, Singapore yang paling tinggi - 7.12 bilon US(2006) - 7.8 bilon US(2007). Tetapi ni semua terpulang kepada risiko, strategi militri, peringkat pembangunan, etc negara masing masing.

To me kurent defend bajet is ok. Sektor-sektor yang lain jugak perlukan duit. Malaysia jugak must kompete with all this countris dari segi ekonomi. Kalo Malaysia berada di tahap Korea, Jepun, Singapura, etc baru boleh Malaysia have high defend bajet. Yang penting pembelajaan dan aset MAF semua tranparents and streamlined.
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Post time 28-3-2008 05:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jazim at 26-12-2006 16:39
Aku tak kisah kalau cara wang belanjawan pertahanan digunakan dipersoalkan ketelusannya oleh sebarang pihak sebaba duit itu termasuk duit aku juga sebagai pembayar cukai. Kalau belanjawan banyak  ...


Nak beli,beli la apa-apa pun,kapal selam 100 bijik,pesawat tempur 500,MBT 1200 bijik..........tapi setiap pembelian hendaklah telus,jgnkan pulok timbul pihok yang dpt komisyen sampai ratus2 juta..........sendirik mau pk la...
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Post time 28-3-2008 09:04 AM | Show all posts

Reply #63 BeachBoys's post

100 bijik kapal selam??? Plg kurang kena bina 10 submarine base...
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Post time 28-3-2008 09:50 AM | Show all posts
The preblem is Malaysia is wasting too much money becuz of koruption and Jp midelman. It leading to to ineficiency and less money for Malaysia. Look at Thailand. They dont spend so much more than Malaysia but have beter and more equipmen.

Dont talk abt Sg. Even with thier high bajet, they are koncern do not overspend and be veri eficienct.
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Post time 28-3-2008 12:43 PM | Show all posts

Reply #62 belacan79's post

die..die....diee.....wakghhh.....!!!
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Post time 28-3-2008 12:50 PM | Show all posts

Reply #62 belacan79's post

Bajet military SG lebih tinggi bukan kerana apa, pasal depa pun ada agihkan utk RnD, hantar NS training sampai ke Australia..hantar detachment F16 ke US..pastu gaji askar depa tinggi..kebajikan amat terjaga..sampai MREs pun tahap US punyer...MREs Malaysia?, askar makan pun leh termuntah balik
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Post time 28-3-2008 02:46 PM | Show all posts
Bajet military SG lebih tinggi bukan kerana apa, pasal depa pun ada agihkan utk RnD, hantar NS training sampai ke Australia..hantar detachment F16 ke US..pastu gaji askar depa tinggi..kebajikan amat terjaga..sampai MREs pun tahap US punyer...MREs Malaysia?, askar makan pun leh termuntah balik


Bukan itu sahaja, equimen depa semua bermutu tinggi dan mahal. Boleh beli 18 F15SG for 900 milon US with palm oil like su-30 mkm? Jangan harap..

Tetapi mereka jugak pandai menjimatkan duit. They also buy 2nd hand goodie a few time but upgred them later.  The end of the days, they want the best and best suitebel for thier needs... does not have to be new equipmen al the times. But of corse, you need to have good local defend industri to upgred the 2nd hand equipmen. Even Ozzy buy 2nd hand Abraham MBT.  Think and play smart and safes money.

Yang penting planning mesti betul. They are a peopel who look far ahead and plan far ahead.

SG DSTA is so good that even US DARPA is working with them on severel projeks. That how far advanced they are. This is high level R & D. Kalo tak salah aku, Sg DSTA have thier own bajet. Tetapi SG Mindef sometime give them with more fund in combine projek.


Maaf..Sg defend bajet this year - 7.8 US bilion(2008). Last year - 7.1 US bilion(2007).

[ Last edited by  belacan79 at 28-3-2008 02:51 PM ]
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Post time 28-3-2008 03:18 PM | Show all posts

Reply #67 IceMallet's post

bab ration ni...aku setuju..tak mencapai tahap amerika...bila agak nya MARDI nak buat r&d untuk ration ATM? tak kan nak tunggu 3tan g makanan ambik dari geng2 fitik kontener?
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Post time 28-3-2008 04:05 PM | Show all posts

Reply #69 razhar's post

MARDI kan nyer minyat sawit kan??? Takkan nak bg Tentera Msia mkn MRE drpd sawit...

STRIDE buat research...
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Post time 28-3-2008 04:06 PM | Show all posts

Reply #69 razhar's post

MARDI kan nyer minyat sawit kan??? Takkan nak bg Tentera Msia mkn MRE drpd sawit...

STRIDE buat research...
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Post time 28-3-2008 04:11 PM | Show all posts

Reply #70 yaminz's post

MARDI pun boleh...banyak hasil2 yg berada di supermarket adalah usaha MARDI yg cari cara supaya bahan2 tahan lama..STRIDE tu slow sgt....budget kecik..la ni baru duk sibuk2 buat ATGW je dulu..
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Post time 28-3-2008 04:12 PM | Show all posts

Reply #70 yaminz's post

-jadi double post pulak-
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Post time 28-3-2008 09:48 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 standupper's post

salah satunye minah tua menopaus yg dah kena tendang dari kabinet tu le:@ :@ :@ :@ :@  f&*%k you..
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Post time 28-3-2008 09:53 PM | Show all posts

Reply #67 IceMallet's post

Tapi ada MRE yang 'hated' too seperti chestnut rice, duck rice, nasi briyani...paling best mee mee and pasta..and MRE kita pon ada maggie satu packet on top of the 1 x 24 hrs pack.
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Post time 28-3-2008 10:30 PM | Show all posts

Reply #75 DarkBaron's post

MRE mana tu? singapore kaaa?
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Post time 1-11-2008 07:14 PM | Show all posts
ntah-ntah golongan anti perbelanjaan pertahanan ni adalah mata dan telinga dan berpakat dgn negara lain untuk melemahkan keupayaan negara secara haluss tak??
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Post time 3-11-2008 01:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jazim at 26-12-2006 04:39 PM
Aku tak kisah kalau cara wang belanjawan pertahanan digunakan dipersoalkan ketelusannya oleh sebarang pihak sebaba duit itu termasuk duit aku juga sebagai pembayar cukai. Kalau belanjawan banyak  ...


Membazir bila harga yang dibayar melampau2 tinggi dari harga sebenar

Membazir sebab beli tapi tak kritikal untuk pertahanan negara.

Membazir sebab melalui orang tengah yang tak tau pasal pertahanan, tapi tangkap komisyen kaw-kaw.
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Post time 3-11-2008 02:24 PM | Show all posts
sepatutnya takda kompromi dalam isu bajet pertahanan nih....
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Post time 3-11-2008 05:16 PM | Show all posts
kita faham, tiada kompromi. Tapi jerung2 tak paham, pikir macamana nak kebas duit je.
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