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Preservation and Authenticity of the Holy Quran

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Post time 21-3-2007 12:48 PM | Show all posts

Reply #20 sedondon's post

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Post time 21-3-2007 12:58 PM | Show all posts
tapi nenek moyang kamu adalah hindu.... tanpa nenek moyang kamu, manalah kamu hari ini?
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Post time 21-3-2007 12:58 PM | Show all posts
er... still no evidence at all that the quran was preserved from the 7th century
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Post time 21-3-2007 01:00 PM | Show all posts
and there is no evidence that the Bible was preserved either. you are all just arguing on something that cannot be verified. speculation upon speculation
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Post time 21-3-2007 01:26 PM | Show all posts
there are lots of evidence that the Bible is preserved. There are ten sof thousands of manuscripts spread throughout the middle east and europe that corroborate, some dating back to the 1st century for the NT and 300BC for OT.
if you include artifacts and stoen carvings, it will go even further.

There is nothing equivalent for the Quran. only cliams that circular reason.
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Post time 21-3-2007 02:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sedondon at 21-3-2007 09:35 AM
Agama Hindu hanyalah utk penduduk2 di sepanjang sungai Hindus, penduduk2 sepanjang sungai klang, sg langat, sungai rejang, sg. nil, sg. gombak tak perlu.....



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Post time 21-3-2007 02:49 PM | Show all posts
It is very easy to furnish the proofs of preservation of the holy Quran.

1.  There are millions of 搘alking Quran
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Post time 21-3-2007 02:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by tinangol_csm at 21-3-2007 01:03 AM


sebagai perkongsian.




Read the clarification below.

Official written copy by Caliphate Uthman

The Quran was originally revealed in Quraishi dialect of Arabic. But to facilitate the people who speak other dialects, in their understanding and comprehension, Allah revealed the Quran finally in seven dialects of Arabic. During the period of Caliph Uthman (second successor to the Prophet) differences in reading the Quran among the various tribes became obvious, due to the various dialectical recitations. Dispute was arising, with each tribe calling its recitation as the correct one. This alarmed Uthman, who made an official copy in the Quraishi dialect, the dialect in which the Quran was revealed to the Prophet pbuh
and was memorized by his companions. Thus this compilation by Uthman's Committee is not a different version of the Quran (like the Biblical versions) but the same original revelation given to the Prophet by One God, Allah.

Narrated Anas bin
Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham (Syria) and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Armenia and Azherbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their differences in the recitation of the Quran, so he said to Uthman, 'O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and Christians did before'. So Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, 'Send us the manuscripts of the Quran so that we may compile the Quranic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you'. Hafsa sent it to Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin Az-Zubair, Said bin Al-As and Abdur Rahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, 'In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Quran, and then write it in their (Quraishi) tongue'. They did so, and when they had written many copies, Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied and ordered that all the other Quranic materials whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt
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 Author| Post time 21-3-2007 07:12 PM | Show all posts
diaorg ni..kitab sendiri pun tak habis baca lagi...dok sibuk2 nak risau ttg Al Qur'an buat apa.....

aku nak tanya depa ni....korang ada tak Al-qur'an kat rumah korang ni....

kat rumah aku..ada Al-qur'an,Bible,dan kitab hindu (softcopy..PDF format)..senang nak refer nanti.....

ckap terus terang la kan..lepas aku baca bible..aku lebih appreciate Al-Qur'an better........no doubt at all..AL-qur'an Words of God.
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Post time 22-3-2007 08:12 AM | Show all posts
Jangan banyak cakap (kpd semua Muslims). Saya cabar kamu - TULIS BALIK AL QURAN KAMU TANPA SEBARANG REFERENCE.

Kalau kamu tak dpt buat begitu, macam mana kamu boleh kata yg nenek moyang Arab kamu itu boleh?

Diri sendiri tak betul dan Agama sendiri mengarut, berani cakap tentang agama lain.
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Post time 22-3-2007 09:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 22-3-2007 08:12 AM
Jangan banyak cakap (kpd semua Muslims). Saya cabar kamu - TULIS BALIK AL QURAN KAMU TANPA SEBARANG REFERENCE.

Kalau kamu tak dpt buat begitu, macam mana kamu boleh kata yg nenek moyang Arab  ...


Tak payah lah nak tulis balik

Al Quran dah elok tu nak tulis balik buat ape

dah ramai dah orang yang hafal Al Quran dari mula hingga akhir ( cover to cover )

kau cabar penganut ko tu lah tuk tulis balik buku ko tu


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Post time 22-3-2007 10:08 AM | Show all posts

Reply #31 WLIO's post

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Post time 22-3-2007 11:47 AM | Show all posts
You proof sounds very silly, let me show you.
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It is very easy to furnish the proofs of preservation of the holy Quran.

1.  There are millions of 搘alking Quran
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Post time 22-3-2007 11:52 AM | Show all posts
Iman ada orang nak cari pasal dengan ko tu

layan jangan tak layan

kalau aku buat bodoh aje biar dia terjun dengan labu labu dia tu

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Post time 22-3-2007 12:13 PM | Show all posts
you see, you muslims have no answers to me simple questions.
how can you tell us the quran was preserved? how?
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 Author| Post time 22-3-2007 12:37 PM | Show all posts
kat mekah...setiap tahun memang para imamdan makmum di belakan mereka recite qur'an cover to cover for 30 nights....every year!

maksudnya setiap tahun praktis tu berlaku,Al-quran dijaga oleh muslim yg hafal seluruh isi kandungan al-qur'an....kalau silapbaca ke,tersilap susunan ayat ke...ada yg perbetulkan..cross checking..bukan sorang dua..tapi ramai....

yg qur'an yg dah ditulis tu,mungkin ada printing error ke..tapi kalau ada pun,mesti ada umat islam yg dapat mengesannya...

yg kau debmey ni....bible kau camne laks..rasanya bible kau takleh preserve coz ada byk version! siap ada cerita 18sx lagi tuh...
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Post time 22-3-2007 12:42 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by salam03 at 22-3-2007 12:37 PM
kat mekah...setiap tahun memang para imamdan makmum di belakan mereka recite qur'an cover to cover for 30 nights....every year!

maksudnya setiap tahun praktis tu berlaku,Al-quran dijaga oleh m ...


hello dia tak reti bahasa melayu lah
dia owang cina singapore lah

kalau kau layan nanti meleret
nanti dia kasi soalan yang tak munasabah


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Post time 22-3-2007 12:45 PM | Show all posts
write england please
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Post time 22-3-2007 11:19 PM | Show all posts
edited: provocation

[ Last edited by  DARSITA at 23-3-2007 04:27 AM ]
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Post time 23-3-2007 12:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 22-3-2007 09:56 AM


Tak payah lah nak tulis balik

Al Quran dah elok tu nak tulis balik buat ape

dah ramai dah orang yang hafal Al Quran dari mula hingga akhir ( cover to cover )

kau cabar penganut ko tu ...


Kalau tak boleh buat, cakap je tak boleh buat. ;)
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