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Masalah OKU - peluang mencari kerja dan kemudahan asas -

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 Author| Post time 8-5-2007 07:31 PM | Show all posts
if i were a panel of SPA --
and i have a candidate  who matched all the qualification
that i needed for a job  but he is deaf -
i will hire him --

there're plenty of jobs that a deaf with qualification
can fill in --

i might hafta learn a few sign language -
but then  so what? - it would be great -
it is a knowledge  and i think i will learn it should
my employee using it --


a programmer
system analyst
accounts exec
accounts clerk
typist
draughtman
architect

etc etc etc

PLENTY!!! and i wont hesitate to hire him
eventhough he is deaf - if he fills all the qualification
that i needed --

come to think of it  lots of jobs are suitable as well
for a deaf person --   - exception a few
such as receptionist or customer services (in the counter)
for a deaf person --
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Post time 8-5-2007 08:17 PM | Show all posts

Reply #40 peace's post

kerja ni benda yang dikawal manusia.. ia flexible..

pegawai tadbir bukan je hanya pergi meeting semata... banyak lagi benda yang dia kena buat.. kebanyakan kerja sekarang adalah based on teammate.. kalau sorang takleh buat satu perkara, sorang lagi akan ganti... sebab semuanya dalam kawalan manusia... Yang penting ada sifat toleransi..

Masa interview.. layan sama dengan calon lain.. jangan bila nampak je calon camni, terus pandang rendah... Bila rasa dia berkelayakan, baru tanya apa keperluan dia.. boleh tak keperluan tu disediakan nanti.. kalau tak boleh, cakap terus.. tak perlu berdalih.. kalau boleh, pertimbangkan macam calon lain.. Be fair...

Semuanya bergantung kepada mentaliti kita, kalau masih sesempit tempurung, memang segalanya jadi penghalang..


orang pekak merupakan golongan paling bermasalah dalam pelajaran antara semua golongan OKU.. Sebabnya mereka tak dengar apa yang diajar..
Kalau ada degree, i'm sure nothing impossible for him/her...
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Post time 8-5-2007 10:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by koko2 at 8-5-2007 08:15 AM


s/ment drp org sempurna yg tak ada OTAK...

Tak pe la papalanjut...kot2 esok zuriat ko ada yg OKU , then ko apply kan aje la kat

anak beranak ko tu...AMIN...aku doakan..

Org yg sempu ...


siapa lu nak cakap aku tada otak ?? haha .. lu bikin wa gelak aaa ..kamonnaa..kalau ditakdirkan tuhan yang maha berkuasa kepada hambanya, anak aku OKU...aku akan bagi dia semangat ...bukan nak membunuh semangat ...rasanya org macam ko kalau dapat anak OKU ...apa yg ko buat ?

p/s: kawan, jangan mendoakan sesuatu yg kurang baik pada saudaramu, orang lama dah berkata, kerana mulut badan binasa...takut takut apa yg ko aminkan tu datang kat ko balik ...

IMPORTANT: aku nak clearkan apa yg aku tulis sebelum ni ... aku tak memandang rendah sikit pun pada org OKU, tapi aku memandang rendah manusia yg tak reti berusaha.
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Post time 9-5-2007 08:03 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dexa at 8-5-2007 07:31 PM
if i were a panel of SPA --
and i have a candidate  who matched all the qualification
that i needed for a job  but he is deaf -
i will hire him --

there're plenty of jobs that a deaf with q ...



salam dexa ... thanz menjawab soalan peace ...

kekadang kelulusan yg sedia ada hanya la sebahagian ilmu yg ade dlm diri kita ... pengalaman hidup / kerja sebenarnye lebih byk manfaat berbanding ape yg kita belajar sepjg di skolah, ipta ke and so on ... coz hampir setiap hari kita belajar new things...  contohnye ... sy minat2 bab IT dan komputer ... sampaikan selalu jadi committe utk majlis penting utk organisasi di hotel2.. committee persembahan / video montage ... even saya ade degree accounting, kita perlu pelbagaikan kebolehan & ilmu kerana variasi ilmu memudahkan keja kita dan aktiviti2 sosial / kemasyarakatan ....

as long as we alwiz ada kesanggupan utk mempelbagaikan kemahiran / kepakaran, i believe there is not barrier for OKU can fulfill any qualification based on theirs merit / abilities ....

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 Author| Post time 9-5-2007 10:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #44 Redz-XacK's post

as long as we alwiz ada kesanggupan utk mempelbagaikan kemahiran / kepakaran,
i believe there is not barrier for OKU can fulfill any qualification based on theirs merit / abilities ....


true enough
and more - kalau ada pihak2 or companies yang
realized that OKU  - can do any job that normal people
do as well -  in fact some probably can do better
and contribute more -   sebab lebih attuned dengan
permasalahan dan lebih sensitive dengan environment
tempat kerja --

having said that,
i also wish that the goverment will  provide more kemudahan
asas pada mereka ni  - such as transportation system
yang mesra for disabled  (just as they did for toilet
for disabled kat R & R - which i think was very helpful) -
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 Author| Post time 10-5-2007 12:11 AM | Show all posts
Bangunan baru wajib sedia kemudahan OKU

KUALA LUMPUR: Semua bangunan baru yang dibina di ibu negara perlu dilengkapi kemudahan asas untuk orang kurang upaya (OKU) sebagai syarat utama mendapatkan Sijil Penyiapan dan Pematuhan (CCC).


Datuk Bandar Kuala Lumpur, Datuk Ab Hakim Borhan, berkata bagi bangunan lama yang tidak menyediakan kemudahan itu pula perlu dinaikkan taraf dengan menyediakan kemudahan untuk OKU selewat-lewatnya pada 2012.

Beliau berkata, mengikut Akta Jalan, Parit dan Bangunan Jalan 1974, bangunan baru yang gagal menyediakan prasarana asas untuk OKU boleh dikenakan denda RM2,000 atau penalti RM100 setiap hari.

揔ita meminta pemilik bangunan lama dan baru yang belum menyediakan kemudahan dan infrastruktur untuk OKU mengubah suai bangunan dengan menyediakan kelengkapan untuk golongan berkenaan.

揇atuk Bandar boleh menggunakan kuasa tidak mengeluarkan CF kepada bangunan yang tidak dilengkapi kemudahan OKU. Peraturan itu sudah diwujudkan sejak dulu, tetapi tidak dikuatkuasakan sepenuhnya,
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 Author| Post time 11-5-2007 05:58 AM | Show all posts
Memastikan keselesaan OKU
Oleh: SITI FATIMAH ABDUL RAHMAN

DALAM sebuah rancangan televisyen, telah dipaparkan kehidupan seorang wanita orang kurang upaya (OKU) di Amerika Syarikat yang dilahirkan tanpa tangan. Namun, beliau hidup bebas seperti ahli masyarakat yang lain. Keretanya diubah suai sehingga beliau boleh memandu (kakinya yang mengawal stereng); digambarkan juga bagaimana beliau menggunakan perkhidmatan pandu masuk (drive thru
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 Author| Post time 15-5-2007 05:35 PM | Show all posts
Job coaches for disabled
By : Sulaiman Jaafar

KOTA BARU: Despite the government抯 best intentions, only 377 of the country抯 1.1 million civil servants are disabled.

A 1998 government circular stipulated that all departments and agencies must set aside one per cent of all available jobs for the disabled.

Ironically, the Welfare Department抯 handicapped division director, Noraini Hashim, said the scenario was actually better in the private sector, where 8,037 disabled individuals had found employment.

Speaking after launching a seminar on the disabled here, on behalf of director Datuk Rafek Reshidullah, Noraini said the department would adopt a Japanese programme called "Job Coach", which acts as a go-between for the disabled and prospective employers.

She said the department would appoint job coaches from its own ranks, the Manpower Department and non-governmental organisations.
"Sometimes, the employers want to hire them but the handicapped are not keen and vice versa.

"The job coaches will help match the handicapped with suitable employers.

"We have sent four employees from our department and also the Manpower Department to Japan to study the system there."

The one-day seminar was organised by the department, Universiti Sains Malaysia and Medicare Health Service.

Also present were state Welfare director Md Noor Chik and Universiti Sains Malaysia抯 dean of the School of Health Science, Prof Zainul Fadziruddin Zainuddin.


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this program should be a great help for OKU to find a suitable job
and be employed -

the general recruitment agencies didnt have this type of program -
therefore this certainly will open their eyes to accept the employers
requirements regarding OKU -- hence -helping them throughout
the process to get a suitable job -
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 Author| Post time 15-5-2007 05:41 PM | Show all posts
HomeLife: Using the law to help the disabled

RAMPS have been put up for the disabled in major shopping complexes, but some are too narrow to accommodate a wheelchair.

If you take TV programmes, only news segments are being sign-translated for the deaf, while tactile flooring to help guide the blind to safety is only provided on selected urban streets.

In short, the disabled are still made to be largely dependent on others to survive, let alone lead a "normal" life.

"Without (proper) facilities, getting out of the house is not only unfriendly but downright dangerous for the disabled," said Anthony Thanasayan, spokesperson for the Malaysians Against the Discrimination of the Disabled.

He admitted there have been more efforts in recent years to have disabled-friendly facilities, "but they抳e been largely sporadic and centred in Kuala Lumpur".
"A comprehensive plan is needed to provide facilities to help us be independent and productive members of the community."

Meanwhile, parents like Darshini Ganeson are worried that their children cannot get the proper training to become independent individuals because of the lack of "well-run" vocational institutions for the disabled.

She dismisses the special public schools for the disabled, saying they are of no help.

"If I had left Nanthini in her public school, she抎 be a vegetable by now. They lump the children together
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Post time 15-5-2007 06:44 PM | Show all posts
salam dexa ...


ada full info pasal undang2 or akta OKU kat website? thanz dexa .... :hatdown:
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 Author| Post time 15-5-2007 07:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #50 Redz-XacK's post

salam redz --
i will try to find out ---- later on --

or anyone who has it or knew about it
can post in here the link  please --

i shall appreciate the effort --
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Post time 15-5-2007 07:33 PM | Show all posts
thanz brader dexa ...

i also will share if there is good info ....   
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 Author| Post time 15-5-2007 07:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Redz-XacK at 15-5-2007 07:33 PM
thanz brader dexa ...

i also will share if there is good info ....   



de nada -


p/s: i shall look into it (as per your request )
soon as i can --
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Post time 15-5-2007 10:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dexa at 8-5-2007 07:31 PM
if i were a panel of SPA --
and i have a candidate  who matched all the qualification
that i needed for a job  but he is deaf -
i will hire him --

there're plenty of jobs that a deaf with q ...


Bagus.. semua kerja yg anda senaraikan tidak memerlukan bunyi.....

mungkin kalau ada public nak berbincang dengan pegawai tadbir.... kerani buleh cakap.. maaf encik.. bos saya pekak.. encik buleh ckp dgn saya...


OKu kena buktikan kelebihan diorang berbanding orang normal...
kalau setakat ada degree... orang normal pon ada degree... dalam kondisi ini.. orang normal yang ada kelebihan..
Seperti yang aku cakap... tak semua kerja sesuai dengan OKU... pohonlah lagi..

Kalau dapat kerja yg tak guna degree pun apa salahnya.....
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Post time 15-5-2007 10:17 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dexa at 15-5-2007 05:35 PM
Job coaches for disabled
By : Sulaiman Jaafar

KOTA BARU: Despite the government抯 best intentions, only 377 of the country抯 1.1 million civil servants are disabled.

A 1998 government ci ...


Berapa jumlah kakitangan welfare dept...?

mubngkin mereka patut yg pertama melantik Pegawai pegai dari golongan oku....

statistik mungkin akan naik....

1.1 Million civil servant kau mesti tolak army dan semua agensi keselamatan...
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Post time 16-5-2007 08:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by peace at 15-5-2007 10:13 PM


Bagus.. semua kerja yg anda senaraikan tidak memerlukan bunyi.....

mungkin kalau ada public nak berbincang dengan pegawai tadbir.... kerani buleh cakap.. maaf encik.. bos saya pekak.. enci ...





salam peace....

bukan ka zaman  skang teknologi komunikasi canggih...  lihat la e-mel.. sms... telesidang .. telefon bermesej, videophone bergambar  etc membantu OKU .... OKU mampu hadapi seme jenis keja dibantu ngan teknologi komunikasi yg sedia ada ..... saudara look so berfikiran sempit... setiap masalah utk OKU ade penyelesaian dan kemudahan .... jika saudara mempunyai otak baik, dah lama saudara ada penyelesaian utk OKU ... that's da man... bukan mencari kelemahan yg ada pada OKU ....  saya andaikan saudara sure ade penyelesaian yg baik di atas setiap situasi dan kelemahan yg saudara nyatakan... setiap kali ada kelemahan, nyatakan skali penyelesaian ...


thanz peace ....
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Post time 16-5-2007 08:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Redz-XacK at 16-5-2007 08:01 PM





salam peace....

bukan ka zaman  skang teknologi komunikasi canggih...  lihat la e-mel.. sms... telesidang .. telefon bermesej, videophone bergambar  etc membantu OKU .... OKU mam ...


sedara nie.... sektor gomen lambatlah nak cater semua tu...
emel pon tak semua staff ada...
telekonferens.. prfftthh... berapa banyak jabatan yg ada buat sistem tu...

aku bukan pikiran sempit lah....

dahlah pekerja gomen nie dah dicop oleh rakyat sebagai pemalas dan tak efisien.....

kalau amik OKU yg tak sesuai dengan skop kerja.... lagiii lah legally tak efisien...

I'm not offending OKU eh?
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Post time 16-5-2007 08:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by peace at 15-5-2007 10:13 PM


Bagus.. semua kerja yg anda senaraikan tidak memerlukan bunyi.....

mungkin kalau ada public nak berbincang dengan pegawai tadbir.... kerani buleh cakap.. maaf encik.. bos saya pekak.. enci ...


hahaha lawak la ko ni....

antara 377 kakitangan kerajaan yang OKU tu..
Ada sorang pegawai, guna wheelchair.. kira lumpuh.. tangan pun sangat weak..
dia kerja di bahagian yang 100% engineers...
Dia software engineer, tapi dia salah sorang yang handle mechanical engineering kat situ..

Selalu gak tengok dia kena outstation...
dia pun ada NIOSH green card (wajib ada untuk masuk construction site)...
takde sorang pun tanya kenapa orang camni nak ambil green card.. camne nak masuk site...
dah jawatan dan tugas dia perlukan card tu maka dia kena ambil kursus tu..

Bangunan pejabat dulu yang takde ramp, sekarang dikelilingi ramp, automatic door disediakan...
Habis hampir ratusan ribu, tapi takde masalah pun bagi jabatan dia...

Ini setakat bisu pun dah dijadikan constraint...
Yg penting, bagi peluang dulu kalau dia layak...
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Post time 16-5-2007 09:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by padlie at 16-5-2007 08:51 PM


hahaha lawak la ko ni....

antara 377 kakitangan kerajaan yang OKU tu..
Ada sorang pegawai, guna wheelchair.. kira lumpuh.. tangan pun sangat weak..
dia kerja di bahagian yang 100% engine ...


ada ke jawatan jurutera perisian kat sektor gomen?

kau tipu aku ke apa nie? Dia Gred apa?

Berpa banyak duit public habis nak sediakan opis utk dia?

Kalau satu dept ada PEGAWAI not KAKITANGAN oku...

kau harap semua dept kerajaan kena ada macam tu ke?

Apa perasaan kau kalau kau lost job interview dgn seorang OKU yang kau tahu kau lebih berkemampuan dari segi keupayaan memikir, keupayaan mentadbir, keupayaan berkomunikasi... blablabala...

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Post time 16-5-2007 10:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by peace at 16-5-2007 09:03 PM

ada ke jawatan jurutera perisian kat sektor gomen?

kau tipu aku ke apa nie? Dia Gred apa?


Dia Q41... Under MOSTI, kebanyakan Q41 buat pelbagai tugas termasuklah software engineer...


Berpa banyak duit public habis nak sediakan opis utk dia?


Soalan ni ko tak patut tanya, ko berat sebelah...
Beribu banduan dengan penagih kita boleh bela kat penjara dan pusat serenti ko tak persoalkan pun..
diorang lagi la menyusahkan masyarakat.. habiskan duit puluhan juta kat diorang tanpa hasil dengan puluhan ribu kat OKU yang memberi hasil, sama ke?

Kalau satu dept ada PEGAWAI not KAKITANGAN oku...

kau harap semua dept kerajaan kena ada macam tu ke?


Aku tak harap macam tu..
Apa yang aku nak, kita takleh nilai diorang dari perkataan OKU tu..
Kalau dia layak, ambil la.. kalau tak, tak payah..
Bukan susah untuk beri sedikit keadilan.. bukannya sedikit keistimewaan...

Apa perasaan kau kalau kau lost job interview dgn seorang OKU yang kautahu kau lebih berkemampuan dari segi keupayaan memikir, keupayaanmentadbir, keupayaan berkomunikasi... blablabala...


Kan aku dah cakap, OKU yang perlu dipertimbangkan adalah mereka yang mempunyai kemahiran.. bukannya sembrono ambil je.. aku jumpa ramai je blind yang mampu berfikir, mentadbir, komunikasi  dengan baik... Tapi sayangnya diorang blind...


cara ko cakap ni memang offense OKU la... Seolah-olah diorang tak layak bekerja... Sama cam pendirian Samy Vellu...

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