Syria says repulses Israeli jets

Debmey

Originally posted by capable_warrior at 10-9-2007 05:39 PM
Did I not mention that, Mao said guerrilla warfare was never an end to itself.How hard is it to read and understand.

of course guerilla war is not an end to itself, but guerilla wars raerely wins. How hard is that to understand?

d'zeck

heard from ur countrymen? igla's crew perhaps..

Debmey

Thats why we service Iglas ourselves. We have the technology.

d'zeck

ur pren told otherway, but still u buy russian 'bad things'..
cet poodah la u two..

Debmey

not all are bad, Igla is pretty good and have proven itself in combat but you will definitely have master servicing. We produce our iglas.

[ Last edited by  Debmey at 11-9-2007 01:28 PM ]

malberi8

when other ppl buy russian weapon u said its a 'bad choice' but when ur ppl bought it
then u said its a good choice...

when we buy PT 91 u also said a bad choice, not suitable for our terrain and bla
bla , and now u have leopard... 50tons tank most suitable for ur tiny island?

MLRS also once consider a bad choice?looks whos been shopping around now?
wat kind of mentality is this? bias, double standard..

deb, u've been drinking too much # water(new water) lo !!

lipans

Israel just nak test air defence Syria in case depa buat serangan mengejut ke atas Iran. Cuba buat straight line, kemana hala tuju jet tu. Tentunya Tehran. Kenapa kat utara Syria? Sebab itu adalah jalan yg boleh dikatakan selamat & boleh digunakan. Turkey, takkan benarkan ruang udara diorang digunakan terang-terang. So, diorang benarkan Israel guna laluan kat sempadan Turkey-Syria dan lalu kawasan yang US control.

Itu pasal Iran, bekalkan air system dr rusia ke Syria sebab nak prevent Israel punya attack la. Skrg diorang dah tau, capability Syria punya defence. Diorang akan kaji balik, nak guna ke tak laluan tu.

Kalau Israel decide nak attack jugak, lepas ke tak. Kalau bawak nuke, apa kebarangkalian pesawat yg bawak tu ditembak jatuh & nuke tak sempat explode & dirampas oleh Syria. Mau tak naya Israel kalau nuke tu kena rampas. Nightmare la diorang.

Debmey

Originally posted by malberi8 at 11-9-2007 03:12 PM
when other ppl buy russian weapon u said its a 'bad choice' but when ur ppl bought it
then u said its a good choice...

when we buy PT 91 u also said a bad choice, not suitable for our terrain ...

Can you show me when i ever said those were bad choices? Please show me or you are a liar!

Nick_Perelman

Israel targeted Iranian weapons in Syria - report

CNN says incident in which Israeli planes reportedly invaded Syrian airspace was actually an attack on Iranian weapons transferred to Syria; operation apparently included ground forces, report says

Ynet Published:  09.11.07, 18:29

CNN news network reported Tuesday that the incident in which Israeli planes reportedly invaded Syrian airspace was actually an attack on Iranian weapons transferred to Syria.

According to the report, the incident involved an aerial operation that also included ground forces that were meant to mark targets or inspect the damage caused by the attack.

It was also reported that the operation left "a great hole in the ground" in the Syrian desert. The report was based mainly on sources in the American government and CNN said that Israel was satisfied with the operation's results.

The report said Israel apparently targeted a type of weapon transferred through Syria to Hizbullah from Iran.  
Sources told CNN reporter Christiana Amanpour that weapons have been transferred in this way for the past three or four years uninterruptedly.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3448687,00.html

This explains why Syria is angry but does noty show what was attacked.

Debmey

these people are sneaky. Its all al takiya.

anyway, i trhink israel should be more aggressive and attack syria more, especially the leadership.

[ Last edited by  Debmey at 12-9-2007 09:57 AM ]

lepat99

why Israel not attacked Syria aggressively is becoz there were clever just not like u.. i think u are not studying in the strategic studies la..learn more la weh..buat malu je..i think if u in the parliament mayb u be a clown overthere..buat kena gelak je..becoz u don't put urself in thier position..

lepat99

why Israel not attacked Syria aggressively is becoz there were clever just not like u.. i think u are not studying in the strategic studies la..learn more la weh..buat malu je..i think if u in the parliament mayb u be a clown overthere..buat kena gelak je..becoz u don't put urself in thier position..

malberi8

go back to all ur previous post.. and in adition in 'military nuts' , kiasu ..

if u calling me a liar, i really dont mind, but just imagine how many ppl here
thinks that ur liar...

IceMallet

Surelah...its been awhile since the Yids havent kill any babies, rite?

tangopapa

Debmey

The Israelis have indeed been very stupid.
They expect people who's religious ideology is to kill Jews to make peace with them.

d'zeck

who cares if u also very stupid

Debmey

I certainly don't mind you being stupid my fren.

jofizo

Israeli warplanes targeted weapons destined for Hizbullah in a strike last week in northeastern Syria, a US government official said Wednesday, even as Israel remained silent over the incident.

The official said the target in the strike last Thursday was a site where Israel believed Syria was storing weapons from Iran heading for the Lebanese terrorist group.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the information involves intelligence gathering and because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Officials in Washington declined for several days to say whether they were aware of the strike, then on Tuesday confirmed they had intelligence indicating it had taken place.

Meanwhile, Syria's UN Ambassador, Bashar Ja'afari, denied the reports on Wednesday, claiming the Israeli jets escaped without hitting their target.

"This is, as we say in French, blah blah," Ja'afari told reporters. "This is nonsense. This is unfounded statement. It is not true because they have already violated the airspace of a country, a member state of the United Nations."

"It's not up to the Israelis or anybody else to assess what we have in Syria and what we don't have," he said.

Ja'afari said it was also "totally wrong" because the Israelis could not find any target in Syria. That is because they were "running away" after coming under fire from Syrian air defenses and dropped their ammunition and extra fuel tanks to lighten the load, he said.

The Syrian ambassador sent identical letters to Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the president of the Security Council accusing Israel of "flagrant defiance of international law," the UN Charter and council resolutions.

While Syria has repeatedly affirmed its desire for "a just and comprehensive peace in the region," Ja'afari accused Israel of "choosing aggression and escalation instead of espousing the option of peace" and committing "war crimes."

"In warning the Israeli government of the consequences of such blatant aggression, Syria emphasizes that if the international community persists in disregarding these Israeli actions in breach of international law, that is likely to subject the region and international peace and security to serious consequences that may be difficult to control," he said in the letter, circulated Wednesday.

Ja'afari told reporters Wednesday that Israel carried out the "provocative act ... in the middle of the huge momentum with regard to the peace process in the Middle East."

"We think the Israeli purpose behind doing such an aggressive act is to torpedo the peace process, to torpedo the idea of holding an international conference with the idea of having a comprehensive peace," he said. "So the issue in itself might not be a pure military one, but having a very important diplomatic and political background."

The letters did not ask the Security Council to take any action, but Ja'afari said Syria expects both the council and the secretary-general to react.

"What's happened is a violation of the Charter, a violation of the sovereignty of a member state of United Nations, and bout the secretary-general and Security Council should assume their responsibilities by reaction to such an aggressive act," he said. "They should react because this is their duties, this is their job. It's not up to me to dictate to them what to say."

When Israeli aircraft attacked a Syrian village in October 2003, Ja'afari recalled that the secretary-general denounced the attack and the Security Council condemned it.

"We are waiting for serious outcomes, equal, at least, to the gravity of what happened," he said.

France's UN Ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert said the letter was circulated to all 15 members but it was not discussed at a meeting on Wednesday. Diplomats said this was because the Syrians did not ask for any action.

On Tuesday, CNN reported that Israel Air Force jets that allegedly infiltrated Syrian airspace early last Thursday apparently bombed an Iranian arms shipment that was being transferred to Hizbullah, Tuesday.

A ground operation may also have been part of the foray, according to the network. Jerusalem refused to confirm or deny the report.

CNN said the operation involved ground forces and that the aerial strike left "a great hole in the desert." Although it did not name a specific source, the network cited "US government officials." The jets have been identified by the Turkish authorities as IAF F15Is, Israel's long-range bomber, after fuel tanks were found in Turkish territory.

The CNN report said the IAF's targets were likely weaponry delivered to Syria that was possibly intended for use by Hizbullah.

CNN's chief international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, delivered the report and quoted sources saying that Israel was "very happy" with the results of the operation.

A US military official described the Israeli incursion as an air strike "deep into Syria" that succeeded in hitting a target. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because it was an intelligence issue, said he did not know what that target was.

Syria has called the incursion a "hostile act," but has been largely silent on the details of what happened. Israeli officials have refused to comment.

On Thursday, Syria said its air defense systems had fired on IAF aircraft that had infiltrated its airspace near the coastal city of Latakia.

The government, including the Prime Minister's Office and the IDF, maintained their policy of refusing to comment on the incident following the CNN report.

Syria has been known to be transferring weapons of its own, as well as arms from Iran, to Hizbullah.

During the Second Lebanon War, the IDF discovered a wide range of antitank missiles and short-range rockets being used by Hizbullah that had originated in Syria. Several Iranian-made missiles were also in Hizbullah hands before the war, but these were mostly destroyed by the IDF before being fired at Israel.

Over the upcoming holidays, the IDF will continue to maintain a high level of alert along the Syrian border amid fears that Damascus will respond to the alleged flyover. Defense officials said earlier this week that tensions between the countries had begun to subside, but that there was a need to maintain a high alert "just in case."

AP contributed to this report.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat ... PArticle%2FShowFull

jofizo

(CNN) -- Syria accused Israel of a "flagrant violation" of its obligations when it carried out an airstrike inside the country last week, according to a copy of a letter released Tuesday.

Syria called the incursion a "breach of airspace of the Syrian Arab Republic" and said "it is not the first time Israel has violated" Syrian airspace, the letter to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon read.

It also accused the international community of ignoring Israeli actions.

Earlier, a U.N. spokeswoman said Syria had not requested a meeting of the Security Council.

Meanwhile, France -- the current president of the Security Council -- said it had received no letter from Syria.

Last week, Syria reported that its aircraft fired on Israeli "enemy aircraft" that flew into northern Syria early Thursday.

The airstrike may have targeted weapons that were destined for Hezbollah militants, according to sources in the region and in the United States.


The Israel Defense Forces had no comment on the report, and have refused to comment further on the new revelations.

But the sources told CNN the military operation, which happened Wednesday into Thursday, may have also involved Israeli ground forces who directed the airstrike, which "left a big hole in the desert" in Syria.

The strike may have targeted Hezbollah weapons coming into Syria or transiting through the country from Iran -- a pattern that, over the past three or four years, has occurred without any retaliation or other action taken against it -- the sources said.

The Israeli government is very happy with the success of the operation, the sources said.

Sources in the U.S. government and military confirmed to CNN's Barbara Starr that the airstrike did happen, and that they are happy to have Israel carry the message to both Syria and Iran that they can get in and out and strike when necessary.

Right now, diplomats in the region are trying to ensure the incident does not escalate.

The European Union's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, is serving as a conduit between Israeli and Syrian foreign ministers, urging both sides to allow cooler heads to prevail, Solana's office said.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem and other Syrian officials have been putting out their version of events. The Syrian government said Israeli bombs were dropped on its territory and fuel tanks from Israeli jets were dropped on the Turkish side of the border.


Al-Moualem was in the Turkish capital, Ankara, on Monday protesting this action and trying to get Turkey to support its desire to take Israel to the Security Council for the airstrike.

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