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Author: doremon_virago

Camner nak kahwin lagi satu?

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Post time 26-9-2007 09:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by doremon_virago at 25-9-2007 10:46 PM
Looking at the response, all the ladies view the INTEND to take another wife very negatively, all are saying NOOOOO. Almost like I would be committing a sin ! But would I really? Taking anothe ...


As one of the ladies who have replied never said that its a sin to marry another...

But I was wondering if yr intentions are really pure from your heart why is there a need to do it behind yr wife...without her consent or her ever knowing? Be a man..if u want something go ahead but have the balls to do it out open not hidding like a petty thief

Also don't hide behind the cliche of having the means and that the prophet married widowers and divorcees...come on la...who are you kidding u are just trying to justify yrself..trying to convince yr mind that u are doing the right thing...

think again between choosing doing the right way or the peaceful way what is the best?


Peace Brother...tell us the outcome of yr decision to marry for the second time.

[ Last edited by  SleepyFish at 26-9-2007 10:23 AM ]

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Post time 26-9-2007 09:37 AM | Show all posts
Susah nye menjadi seorang 'wanita'....cantik pun susah..x cantik pun susah..
U bertuah sbb dpt isteri yg hampir2 perfect....tak semua org boleh dpt isteri mcm tu..
tp still x nak menghargai nye disebabkan kerana perasaan 'nak'..
well,u kene fikir betul2...jgn lupa Allah minta petunjuk...
Hopefully Dia boleh membantu...lg2 dibulan yg baik ni..
n 1thing cuba la imagine mcm mane hancur nye hati seorang isteri bile tau semua ni...
n KALAU dia minta berpisah..adakah u sanggup accept????
N of course ur children couldnt accept it...n mungkin respect they all pd u akan berkurangan....just my 2cents berpandukan pengalaman....
Wateva we do...kene la Lillahi ta'ala..harta dunia hanyala sementara..bile2 Dia boleh tarik blk kesemuanye....
well,all the best dude......jgn tergesa2.....
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Post time 26-9-2007 09:45 AM | Show all posts
dh muak ler nk bincang isu nih...
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Post time 26-9-2007 09:56 AM | Show all posts
doremon,
nape bila pasal nak khwn lain br ko nak ckp pasal sunnah ?
senang je, Allah ada berfirman  kalo ko yakin ko blh berlaku adil, go ahead....
tp kalo sebaliknya.......
tu pikiaq sendiri......
jgn nnt ko buka benang baru kat cni n tajuknya
"isteri aku nak cerai, camna?" @
"aku tertekan"
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Post time 26-9-2007 10:06 AM | Show all posts
new page....
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Post time 26-9-2007 10:07 AM | Show all posts
Ello bro...kalau dah rasa u berhak nak kawin lagi..berterus terang le ngan wife tu...n kena berani le amik risiko nya..lepas tu duduk le berbincang 6 mata..macam mana corak poligami yang bakal korang lalui...

Yup paham sangat dugaan orang lelaki ni..bila banyak duit sikit..berada sikit..kalau ada rupa lagiiii le bonus...dugaan macam ni memang hebat..but better off dari yang simpan pompuan or langgan ayam la...
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Post time 26-9-2007 10:07 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 26-9-2007 11:13 AM | Show all posts
tuan rumah,

klu ko rasa nak kawen sbb mampu dari segi kewangan, kawen je lew...tp ikotlah adat..jgn main nak bwk lari anak org kawen kat siam ke tewan ke indon ke beknam ke etc...

tp...

pada pandangan aku, semua ko da ada...pendapatan melebihi had, seorang isteri yg baek dan segala2nyer yg nmpk baek...ada baeknyer jugak ko beramal jariah ke..p umrah ke..menunaikan haji ke....bukan takat nak kawen jek ikot sunnah nabi..(aku paling pantang betul kalau ada statment camgini)..asal kawen jek sunnah nabi..
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Post time 26-9-2007 11:31 AM | Show all posts
...sembahyang istikharah dulu...bertaubat banyak2....engko ingat gaji >10K boleh tanggung bini lagi satu? Kalau dpt yg redha dgn ape yg ngko ade oklah
buatnya permintaan melebihi keupayaan?...mahu jadi mcm polis jutawan itu?...hakim yg menerima rasuah...isteri yg bunuh suami..yg potong kemaluan  
suami?...suami yg bunuh isteri...jadi gila...atau ape2 yg kadang2 xterfikir dek kepala otak kita...Kalau ngko rase nak berumah ditepi pantai teruskan....
tapi kalau aku jadi bini ngko aku akan kate....
Tak apelah bang..u dah jumpa gading bertuah tanduk tidak berguna lagi...disebabkan saya takut abang masuk neraka kerana tidak dapat berlaku adil maka
ceraikan saya....payung emas itu akan saya cari dengan cara lain....
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Post time 27-9-2007 01:04 AM | Show all posts

Reply #100 Ratu75's post

Well said, Ratu...
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Post time 27-9-2007 01:09 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Lipton at 26-9-2007 10:07 AM
Ello bro...kalau dah rasa u berhak nak kawin lagi..berterus terang le ngan wife tu...n kena berani le amik risiko nya..lepas tu duduk le berbincang 6 mata..macam mana corak poligami yang bakal ko ...



tepat sekali, jgn jadi mcm org tua kt tempat aku yg setiap bulan turun ke Batam atas urusan bisnis.. bisnis atuk dia..
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Post time 27-9-2007 01:12 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lyly at 26-9-2007 11:13 AM
tuan rumah,

klu ko rasa nak kawen sbb mampu dari segi kewangan, kawen je lew...tp ikotlah adat..jgn main nak bwk lari anak org kawen kat siam ke tewan ke indon ke beknam ke etc...

tp...

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dia nk kahwin dia punya pasal lah, dia yg nk peluk bukan ko, suka hati dia lah nk kasi statement sunnah nabi ke, kita kt sini tk payah sgt nk menghalang.. apapon semua nanti dia yg akan tanggung termasuk lah kt dlm kubo nnt.. kita kasi nasihat yg secukupnya sudah..

bab dia lari kawen kt Siam atau Indon tu, itu suma bergantung kpd karenah birokrasi Jabatan Agama.. kt KL (JAWI) memang payah sbb dlm borang tu kena kasi 3 sbb (tk silap aku).. so klu dia kawen kt seberang pon, itu tk jadi masalah bagi dia ..  
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 Author| Post time 30-9-2007 07:25 AM | Show all posts
The authority is making 2nd marriage (halal) more difficult than it should be. Remember the case of a singer who wanted to get married in KL but could not, but in Terengganu it was no problem.
On the other hand, other haram activities continue unabatted.

Alas... we had good discussion.

As for my case,
1. Can I be fair to both - resounding yes
2. Can I afford it - yes (in fact it would reduce my expense, now I stay in hotel in KL everytime outstation (1/week), now can stay in bini muda house. 1st one in penang.
3. Will it hurt my wife & kids ?, yes if she know (which I don't intend to let it out open)
4. Will I execute the intend ??? Still unsure - maybe the gf is after my weath.

The most likely scenario is I will remain monogamous.
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Post time 30-9-2007 10:54 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by doremon_virago at 30-9-2007 07:25 AM
The authority is making 2nd marriage (halal) more difficult than it should be. Remember the case of a singer who wanted to get married in KL but could not, but in Terengganu it was no problem.
O ...

if i'm one of your kids...u plak kawin lain tak ckp satu pun....itu dah mcm mencalarkan imej seorg kepada seorg anak...so kalo u nak teruskan niat suci murni u discuss with your family...u yg nak kawin, u pandai2 le discuss ngan derang...jgn kata u senyap2 wife u takleh tau...what if u die earlier....datang jugak 2nd wife menuntut...bayangkan ler...mungkin rancangan u nih leh take off dgn baik if you bagi pemahaman yg sewajarnya pd family you...lgpun tak yah u nak beralasan bohonng sunat if sampai turn yg 2nd...
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Post time 30-9-2007 08:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by doremon_virago at 30-9-2007 07:25 AM
The authority is making 2nd marriage (halal) more difficult than it should be. Remember the case of a singer who wanted to get married in KL but could not, but in Terengganu it was no problem.
O ...



answering your 3rd question. obviously yes, they'll hurt. Sudah terang lagi bersuluh.
Bila terluka, akan menyusul pelbagai tindakan yg menimbulkan huru hara, Unexpected action will come.
The true colors can be seen. Itu sebab, kami suami isteri bertindak menyembunyikan perkahwinan kami. But if u decide to remain as a secret, u need trusted people to rely on, for me.. i rely on my family.
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Post time 30-9-2007 10:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by doremon_virago at 30-9-2007 07:25
1. Can I be fair to both - resounding yes


How can u be so sure?

Originally posted by doremon_virago at 30-9-2007 07:25
2. Can I afford it - yes (in fact it would reduce my expense, now Istay in hotel in KL everytime outstation (1/week), now can stay in binimuda house. 1st one in penang.


Mungkin dari segi itu saja. Bagaimana dgn perbelanjaan bakal isteri kedua, anak tiri dan anak baru yg mungkin bakal lahir nanti? Have u REALLY thought and calculated it?

Originally posted by doremon_virago at 30-9-2007 07:25
3. Will it hurt my wife & kids ?, yes if she know (which I don't intend to let it out open)


Jadilah seorg lelaki dan BERANILAH utk bertanggungjwb terhadap perbuatan u sendiri. Janganlah jadi seorg pengecut. Ke mana hilangnya perasaan kemanusiaan u? Selama ini u mempunyai GF di luar tanpa pengetahuan isteri u, itu sudah cukup MELUKAKAN hatinya jika suatu hari nanti, dia tahu. Adakah u ingin menambahkan lagi dgn melukakan hati seorg wanita yg u dah kahwini selama 10 tahun, yg membawa kandungan selama 9 bulan, yg bergelumang dgn maut, demi melahirkan benih u? Yg membesarkan anak2 u, yg menjaga makan minum, sakit pening u? Ke mana semua pengorbanan, cinta & kasih sayang itu melarikan diri? Ke luar tingkap? Jangan ingat semata2 kerana dia tak tahu, maka dia takkan terluka. Sepandai2 tupai melompat, akhirnya akan ke tanah jua. Dan apabila suatu hari nanti rahsia itu bocor, fikirkan apa KESAN dan AKIBATNYA kpd keluarga u. Please, avoid SELFISHNESS. Kalau u benar2 dah bulat hati nak bernikah lagi satu, perkara PERTAMA ialah - Beritahu isteri u. Sekurang2nya HORMATILAH dia sebagai org yg telah u kahwini atas dasar cinta. Saya tak dpt bayangkan betapa BESAR & DALAM luka seorg isteri yg dikhianati suaminya sendiri...

Originally posted by doremon_virago at 30-9-2007 07:25
4. Will I execute the intend ??? Still unsure - maybe the gf is after my weath.


Kalau u sendiri masih tak pasti, then KENAPA nak nikah lagi satu? Does it make sense to u? Dari sini sudah nyata bahawa u sendiri pun masih tak cukup mengenali hati budi bakal isteri kedua u. Kalau u betul2 kenal dia luar & dalam, u takkan berckp begini. Adakah u nak berkahwin dgn seorg wanita yg u sendiri pun tak kenal hati budinya? Aneh bin ajaib kalau begitu...Kelihatannya u seolah2 TAK BUAT cukup homework utk bakal perkahwinan rahsia u ini...

Berlaku JUJURlah kpd diri sendiri - Can u say that u REALLY know this GF? Dah kenal betul2 ke latar belakangnya? Keluarganya? Do u really know what she's like, inside? Do u really know what's weighing on her mind, most of the time? Do u really know her heart? Do u really know her SOUL? Do u really know her that much, sdgkan u sendiri pun tak pasti apa tujuan sebenar dia nak kahwin dgn u... I humbly suggest, ambillah masa utk bercuti, dan lakukan MUHASABAH diri. FIKIR masak2, bentangkan segala pro & kontra, minta petunjuk dan selidikilah JIWA u yg paling dalam..  Do u really LOVE this GF, or is it just INFATUATION? Are u in love with HER, or are u actually in love with the feelings/concept of BEING in love?

Poligami itu kedengarannya mudah, tapi praktikalnya payah...  Janganlah gunakan kemudahan yg diberi oleh agama, utk sewenang2nya menggunakan HAK anda sebagai seorg lelaki Islam, TANPA benar2 melakukan kerja rumah dan membuat persiapan serta kelengkapan dari segala segi. THINK. THINK. And THINK again. Sekiranya u dah berjaya mengharungi segala rintangan yg ada, u dah buat SEMUA kerja rumah yg SEPATUTNYA, dan hati u tetap juga pd GF itu, serta petunjuk dari Istikharah pun lebih cenderung kpd GF u, then by all means, teruskanlah...  Tapi saya mohon, janganlah sesiapa pun gunakan sunnah Rasulullah s.a.w utk defend diri/tindakan, sebab Rasulullah s.a.w sendiri pun TAK PERNAH sembunyikan berapa org ISTERI yg baginda ada...  

Maaf kalau ada yg tersinggung. My 2 cents...

[ Last edited by  andria at 30-9-2007 10:54 PM ]

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Post time 30-9-2007 11:18 PM | Show all posts
apapon , dlm hal ni aku berpendapat itu hak doremon utk membuat keputusan, tiada siapa buleh menghalang.. biarlah dia nk kawen, samada dia kenal sepenuhnya atau tidak, itu dia punya hal. dia yg nk beromen dgn pompuan tu bukan ko, jadi kita tk perlu melatah seolah olah hendak menghalang.. adakah kita di sini suka menyuburkan perzinaan ataupon menikah secara halal ???  


2. Mak bapak kita dulu pon bukannya org senang, jadi biar lah dia memulakan perkahwinan dari bawah bukan terus senang lenang.. itu lah baru namanya sehidup semati..


3. Jika bini tua dia tahu sekali pon, itu terserah pada dia lah samada nak failkan penceraian. sekarang ni cukup mudah, cakap aja laki dah ada pompuan lain, saya ni kebulur tk makan sbb dia tk mampu kasi nafkah.. Sedangkan ramai pompuan yg failkan penceraian sbb ingin berdikari, kenapa bini tua dia tk buleh melakukan perkara yg sama ??? Bini tua ni patut contohi pompuan yg suka sgt minta cerai ni..  

[ Last edited by  Dunhill. at 30-9-2007 11:23 PM ]

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Post time 1-10-2007 12:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by doremon_virago at 21-9-2007 08:26 AM
Bakground.
Segisatu- Aku : ni dah kahwin 10 tahun, anak dua orang, wife pun lawa, gaji pun tinggi (>RM10,000 sebulan).
Segidua-Wife : Lawa, well educated, ada degree tapi tak kerja , kahwin ata ...

macam mana nak memberi pendapat? kalau anda sendiri dah mengatakan isteri anda ok
apa niat anda nak pasang lagi satu? kemampuan? atau mengikut sunnah? :kant:

orang lelaki ada2 aja...tiada masaalah suka sangat mencari
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