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BIS - Batalion Infantry Standard

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Post time 12-11-2007 08:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by yko9798 at 8-11-2007 08:58 PM
Each BIS would be equipeed by:

1) Pistol - Either FN-35 Browning or HKP9S or Vektor
2) Assault Rifle - Either Steyr or M16 (M4 most probably) as the M16A1 now went to the RESERVE UNIT
3) BIS Machine Gun - Either MINIMI or FN MAG
4) Close Support - MILKOR MGL or M203
5) Anti Tank - RPG 7 or C-90

Mission Critical Weapons (based on nature of engagement)
1) ERYX, METIS-M, BAKTAR SHIKAN
2) CARL GUSTAV M-40 RCL
3) IGLA, ANZA, STARBUST
4) BROWNING 50 Cal Machine Gun
5) 60mm Mortar
6) MK19 SACO


No grenades?
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Post time 12-11-2007 08:18 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mentosonline at 12-11-2007 08:08 PM


No grenades?


Other than MGL & M203, of coz la hand grenade. It's like field ration without biscuit hehe
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Post time 12-11-2007 08:20 PM | Show all posts

Reply #22 lipanlapan's post

Not in the list mah
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Reply #4 yko9798's post

1 section baper org dan apa senjata yg depa bawak......
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1 section baper org dan apa senjata yg depa bawak......
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Reply #4 yko9798's post

1 section baper org dan apa senjata yg depa bawak......
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Post time 13-11-2007 09:37 AM | Show all posts
hehehehehe..........miss out the grenade.......

well...as mentioned by lipan, grenade is a must.....as for the jenis, the most common is the fragmentation grenade.....yang lain tu, biaseler....ade stun grenade, smoke grenade etc...
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Post time 13-11-2007 09:39 AM | Show all posts
Launcher, Grenade, 40mm, M203

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Type Grenade Launcher
Place of origin  United States
Service history
Used by Argentina, Australia, Austria, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Greece, Ireland, Israel, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Singapore, Sweden, USA
Wars Vietnam and later
Production history
Unit cost US$601 [1]
Variants See text
Specifications
Weight 3 lb (1.36 kg) (unloaded)
Length 15 in (380mm)
Barrel length 12 in (305mm)

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Cartridge 40x46 mm grenade
Caliber 40mm
Action Single shot
Rate of fire 5 to 7 round/min
Muzzle velocity 250 ft/s (76 m/s)
Effective range 160 yd (150 m)
Maximum range 1,312 ft (400 m)
Sights Quadrant sight or ladder sight on rifle
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Post time 13-11-2007 11:28 AM | Show all posts
Better grenade wat..RPG7
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Post time 13-11-2007 02:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ferryman2393 at 12-11-2007 04:59 PM
maybe.  tapi assault rifle biasa especially 5.56mm tak ada range.  tambah lagi kalo M4 'baru' kita nie.  kena longer barrel especially kalo nak reach 800m to 1000m or thereabout.  and kalo dia pakai semi auto sniper rifle, tak lah kekok sangat kalo kena ambush.

thinking out loud again...



peluru 5.56mm takde range? pastu camner kita nak tembak? keluar je dari laras terus jatuh ke tanah. camni pistol air lagi efektif

jangan mare, gurau je.

wa paham maksud lu. 5.56mm memang takleh pegi sejauh 7.62mm dan penertration pon takde la dasat. pastuh anak peluru dia ringan dan mudah dipengaruhi faktor angin dan sebagainya.

wa bukan tak suka idea lu cuma dari segi praktikalitinya wa rasa agak kurang la.

selain daripada isu firepower (semi auto vs auto/three round burst), ada isu logistik. sekarang senjata bantuan skuad lazimnya pakai Minimi. sebabnya dia pakai peluru yang sama dengan M-16 atau M4. so, kalo tak cukup peluru bila bertempur, boleh la guna member lain punya peluru.

pastu isu mag capacity. sniper rifle ni mag dia cuma boleh muat 10-15 butir bergantung kepada mag yang digunakan. itupun mungkin dalam mag tu tak isi penuh sebab mau jaga spring dia. bayangkan dalam firefight, tembak sekejap je habis. alang M-16 tembak semi auto pon sedar-sedar peluru dah habis. tu pakai mag 30 butir tu.   

satu lagi, peluru 5.56 mungkin lacks the killing power over long distances, tapi ini lebih baik sebenarnya. sebab anggota musuh yang cedera perlu dirawat, dijaga dan dilindungi- bermakna kurang musuh yang boleh berjuang. kalo anggota musuh yang mati, itu tak payah jaga. biarkan je. dia takkan merayaunya

selain itu, ada isu engagement range. dalam operasi sniper, depa akan engage musuh from extreme distances untuk mengelakkan musuh tau di mana kedudukan mereka. selain itu, depa selalu mengubah kedudukan dan hanya akan tembak bila perlu sahaja. ini berbeza dengan operasi platun. tugas infantri adalah memusnahkan musuh. bermakna mereka bertempur secara dekat dan pertempuran lazimnya fast and furious. mempunyai anggota yang marksman adalah satu aset yang besar tetapi memberi mereka senjata yang khas untuk operasi dan taktik pertempuran yang berbeza, itu akan membahayakan mereka. Dalam pertempuran jarak dekat (up to 300 meters) kaliber peluru tidak lagi penting kerana kuasa membunuh adalah lebih daripada cukup.  

seperti wa cakap sebelum ni, daripada kasik sniper rifle, lagi baik bubuh je scope kat atas M-16 atau M4 tu. kalo mau lebih kick, pakai je G3 atau FN FAL dengan scope. abih citer.

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Post time 13-11-2007 02:35 PM | Show all posts

Reply #23 mentosonline's post

actually, if you look carefully, Mk. 19 is in the list.
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Post time 13-11-2007 07:42 PM | Show all posts
BIS 1 section 8 org, section leader Sarjan
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Post time 13-11-2007 08:12 PM | Show all posts
Saya rasa kalau nak menembak lebih 1000 meter, baik guna sniper rifle. Assault rifle memang digunakan dalam jarak 50m hingga 500meter aje. Lebih daripada tu perajurit tu kena well trained in lobbing the projectile sebab peluru mula jatuh selepas keluar dari barrel.
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Post time 13-11-2007 09:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mentosonline at 12-11-2007 08:20 PM
Not in the list mah


Huhu, ok, top up

Grenade

Hand Thrown : HE Frag + Smoke (a few colour)

Single shot : M203

Revolving (multiple) : MGL Milkor

Automatic : AGL Mk 19

Rocket Propelled : RPG 7 - Anti Tank, MP


Recoiless Rifle

106 mm RCL


Bayonet


M-16 / AUG Steyr


Flare

Signal Flare - various colour

Para Flare

Trip Flare

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Post time 26-12-2007 04:47 PM | Show all posts

Fast patrol boats of the RMN berthed in Pulau Berhala, off Sandakan. RMN conducts coordinated patrols with Indonesian Navy and Royal Thai Navy under the ambit of respective bilateral general border co-operation agreements.

walaupun caption salah tapi ini standard equipment BIS jugak ke? Berapa biji TDM ada dan yang meletup ari tu dah ganti ke tidak?
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Post time 27-12-2007 02:16 AM | Show all posts
meletup? ape kes meletup ni lak
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Post time 28-12-2007 11:14 AM | Show all posts
yang meletup tu bukan ke kastam yang punye?
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Post time 28-12-2007 11:30 AM | Show all posts

Reply #38 asri_041's post

tak berapa lama dulu ada rover meletup tak silap..bukan kes kastam langgar wayang letrik tu weh..tapi teman tak ingat details...
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Post time 28-12-2007 11:55 AM | Show all posts

Reply #34 RainbowSix's post

actually, combat engagement is around 300 meters. beyond that, the enemy is too small to see with naked eyes, let alone aiming at them without a scope. and if you look at the trajectory of a bullet, when it exited the barrel, the bullet is moving in a curved trajectory.

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