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Next Generation Korean MBT , K2 Black Panther

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Post time 11-11-2007 11:11 PM | Show all posts |Read mode


K-2 Black Panther Specifications



Weight 55 tonnes
Length 10 m (7.5m chassis)
Width 3.1 m
Height 2.2 m
Crew 3 (commander, gunner, driver)

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Armor Layers consisting of soft- and hard-kill anti-missile defense systems, ERA, NERA, modular & new unknown type of composite armor
Primary Armament :120 mm, 55 caliber smoothbore gun (40 rounds) with auto loader
Secondary Armament: 1
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Post time 12-11-2007 12:55 AM | Show all posts
crappy korean vehicle!
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Post time 12-11-2007 12:55 AM | Show all posts
crappy korean vehicle!
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Post time 12-11-2007 12:56 AM | Show all posts
crappy korean vehicle!
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Post time 12-11-2007 12:25 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 edelweiss101's post

sukati ko je cakap crappy.....
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Post time 12-11-2007 01:37 PM | Show all posts
salah satu mbt terbaru dunia.  apa pengalaman kita operate KIFV korea?  buleh harap ke?
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Post time 12-11-2007 01:50 PM | Show all posts

Reply #6 ferryman2393's post

boleh. cuma resale value dia jatuh la. maklum la kereta korea
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Post time 12-11-2007 02:48 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 tin's post

at one time ago, korean vehicle had a hard time kat m'sia kita nie.  sebab after sales service practically non existent.  bukan setakat nak ganti minyak hitam, but OEM things.  Original Equipment Manufacturer things.  sekarang, consumer vehicles dari korea nampak mcm ok.  wa pun pakai hyundai sekarang nie.  LOL.  tak tau ler kalo satu hari nanti wa kena ganti cermin depan tu.  agak-agak senang cari tak?  atau kena tunggu 6 bulan baru dapat....

mbt terbaru korea nie nampak cantek.  industri berat korea pun memang ada track record dari segi kemampuan dan kualiti.  i think much better than china.

maybe 5 tahun nanti bila kita dah betul-betul faham tentang operasi mbt kat m'sia kita nie, kita buleh consider mbt nie.  mana tahu, time tu re-sale value dah turun.  
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Post time 12-11-2007 03:43 PM | Show all posts
Hang Citer pasai Kereta ka atau MBT ??
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Post time 12-11-2007 04:35 PM | Show all posts
wa cerita pasal after sales service especially OEM procurement.  contohnya meriam mbt nie.  ada service life kan.  apa depa panggil, barrel fatigue?  bila service life dah habis, nak cari replacement agaknya senang tak?  ntah-ntah time tu dah tak ada meriam tu lagi dah.  kalo nak senang cerita, kita pakai buang jer.  
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 Author| Post time 12-11-2007 10:01 PM | Show all posts
More info on the K2


The K2 Black Panther is the most expensive main battle tank to date


The K2 Black Panther main battle tank evolved from the XK2 programme. This next-generation MBT was developed in South Korea using indigenous technology only. It's development began in 1995 and a full scale production is expected in 2009-2010. The K2 Black Panther will replace the K1 main battle tanks. Currently the K2 is one of the most advanced main battle tank in the world, outclassing anything North Korea, China or Japan have. Furthermore it is the most expensive main battle tank to date, overtaking the Japanese Type 90 MBT.

   This tank uses both modular composite armor of undisclosed type and Explosive Reactive Armor (ERA) blocks. It is also completed with an active protection system and countermeasures system. Protection of the K2 is broadly similar to the M1A2 Abrams MBT considering that the K2 is significantly lighter.

   The Black Panther is armed with a 120-mm Rheinmetall smoothbore gun, completed with an autoloader. This MBT has a maximum rate of fire in 15 rounds per minute. It is worth mentioning that autoloader's is similar to that, used on the French Leclerc main battle tank.

   It also has a very advanced fire control system, allowing to track and engage not only the main battle tanks, but low-flying helicopters as well. Maximum effective range of fire is up to 10 kilometers. Furthermore it's fire control system can spot, track and fire automatically at visible vehicle-size targets without needing any input from a human operator.

   The 120-mm gun can fire variety of munitions, notably the KSTAM (Korean Smart Top-Attack Munition) rounds. These are smart target activated fire and forget projectiles, but shouldn't be confused with anti-tank guided missiles. The KSTAM has it's own guidance system, aided by four stabilizing fins. At the final stage a parachute will deploy to slow it's fall and accurately engage target. Such principle is broadly similar to mortar-launched anti-tank munitions. Furthermore the K2 can fire KSTAM munition from behind the cover. The KSTAM has a maximum effective range in 8 kilometers.

   Secondary armament consists of coaxial 7.62-mm machine gun and anti-aircraft 12.7-mm K6 heavy machine gun, mounted on top of the roof. Both of these machine guns have a very respectable ammunition load (12 000 x 7.62-mm and 3 200 x 12.7-mm). Furthermore the K6 heavy machine gun has an automatic system, that identifies friend from a foe.

   This main battle tank has a crew of three, including commander, gunner and driver.

   Other features of the K2 include digital battlefield management system and navigation system for rapid coordination and increased situational awareness between friendly forces. It is also completed with an NBC protection system.

   The K2 is powered by the license-built MTU MB-883 Ka500 engine, developing 1 500 horsepower. There is also an auxiliary gas-turbine power unit, developing 400 horsepower. It powers onboard systems when the main engine is turned off. The K2 Black Panther has a state-of-the-art semi-active hydropneumatic suspension. Every boogie wheel can be individually controlled, allowing this MBT to "sit", "stand", "kneel" or to "lean" in any direction. This feature gives tank a number of advantages, furthermore it is claimed that such suspension system is easier to maintain, comparing with traditional one.

   The Black Panther is fitted with a deep wading kit. It enables vehicle to cross rivers and other water obstacles up to 4.2 meters deep. Previous K1 and K1A1 MBTs lacked this feature.

   The K2 main battle tank will also be offered for export customers. Turkey has successfully negotiated import or license production of the K2 Black Panther.
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Post time 12-11-2007 10:11 PM | Show all posts
I wonder when hey say most expensive tank in the world, do they compare with M1A2 as well
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 Author| Post time 12-11-2007 10:14 PM | Show all posts
The tank costs around 9 million USD ( 30 million ringgit each)...anybody knows the cost of a Abrams??....
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 Author| Post time 12-11-2007 10:18 PM | Show all posts
I know  the Japanese Type 90 MBT was said to be the most expenisive tank in the world before..i think it is becase of smaller production numbers, so the cost of the tanks will be high..same goes to the K2...

... they surely must be more expensive then the Abrams considering thousands of M1/M1A1/M1A2s have been built and these tanks will be built in smaller numbers...
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Post time 12-11-2007 10:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by davidctw at 12-11-2007 10:11 PM
I wonder when hey say most expensive tank in the world, do they compare with M1A2 as well


Comparitively Nihon's  Type 90 was the lowest production number per year compared to commercially successfull Leoapard 2 or battle tested Abram.

Try calculate the total overhead of Nihon's tank plant per number of tank annually (workers & managemant slary, machinery & land cost, utility bills, material price fluctuation, design fees etc)

i.e $  200 M /  2 tank  per year against  similarly $ 200 M / 25 nos.
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Post time 12-11-2007 10:34 PM | Show all posts

Reply #14 matmin77's post

Yep, true indeed. People say " Economic of Scale".

The more we could produce within the time period than other competitor, the lower the production cost will be.
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Post time 12-11-2007 10:36 PM | Show all posts
so its expensive not because of the technology but the small amount that is being produced....no bang for buck.
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Post time 12-11-2007 11:30 PM | Show all posts
its a rojak tank by simply adding technologies from different makers.
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Post time 12-11-2007 11:30 PM | Show all posts
it seems like a rojak tank by simply adding technologies from different makers.
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Post time 13-11-2007 05:13 AM | Show all posts
design luaran nampak biase je.xnampak pun buleh reduce kuasa hentaman peluru anti tank...
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