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Post time 18-11-2007 07:59 PM | Show all posts |Read mode

saya buka thread yang baru untuk topic yang banyak telah kita bincangkan --
tetapi kerana terlalu banyak juga replies - saya mengambil keputusan menutup
thread yang lama dan akan jadikannya sebagai reference  pada thread ini --

this is the reference --

http://forum3.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=282721&extra=&page=1

*this thread will be merged to that first thread after 6-9 months or so
- thanks

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about child abuse -- should adopt protection policy

--lots of organization that deal with children, including schools,
nurseries  tuition centres should adopt child protection policy --

- this has been proposed by the women, family and community development
ministry not long ago ---

-- under this policy, all employees and volunteers would be screened before employed
in any organization involving children --     

--child minders and teachers need to be trained to look out for warning signs of abuse -
plus --- institutions involving children cannot afford to be as laid-back as they have been!! -

- the non government organizations (NGOs) has urged the ministry to set up a dedicated
helpline for children --- and as the time being - the ministry is engaging the services
of a consultant for this -   i think this is quite helpful for the children and very important
for them to have this kind of interaction where they can feel safe --

- as far as i am concerned, in canada there's been a helpline services which uses the expertise
of child welfare experts  and here --- children are taught to recognise the letters which spell
out the word 'HELP'  on the phone!!

- for quite a long time in malaysia there's been no route for children to reach out for help thus this
helpline will be quite helpful whereby they can be advised where to go and whom to contact!! -



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 Author| Post time 18-11-2007 08:11 PM | Show all posts

a great article i wanna share with forum members ---

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Protection for children
Are we failing our children?

By : TAN CHOE CHOE and P. SELVARANI


Listen to the children and don抰 dismiss what they tell us, say child
welfare experts.



Most of us think an abused child's ordeal ends after his story is reported. But does it really? Experts tell TAN CHOE CHOE and P. SELVARANI that, sometimes, our system fails to help these children and, in some cases, condemns them to further abuse


OVERWORKED, ignorant, uncaring, and sometimes inept -- these are some of the people who work with our abused children, said experts.

These accusations have been levelled at everyone; from the average social worker, the neighbourhood police officer, right up to the magistrate sitting in the children's court.

And in quite a number of cases, these accusations weren't far off the mark, said retired assistant director of the Welfare Department, Vijayakumari Pillai.

"It's sad but true. At times, no one actually listens to the child, whether it's the (medical staff of) hospitals, police or welfare authorities.

"They'd rather talk to the parents, because it's easier and faster to get information."

Maybe it was denial or a lack of interest, but in more instances than she cared to count, the authorities were more inclined to disbelieve a child's account of alleged abuse.

Ironically, statistics show that parents are more often than not, the perpetrators of the abuse.

It was reported in the New Sunday Times in July that parents were responsible for nearly five out of 10 reported cases of child abuse last year.

But what about unreported ones, or where the authorities failed to recognise that the child was a victim of abuse?

"If the abuse isn't identified and the child is wrongly returned to the parents who turn out to be the abusers, chances are, there will be further abuse," said Dr Farah Nini Dusuki, vice-president of the Malaysian Association for the Protection of Children.

She cited a case where a couple abused a child in Shah Alam a few years ago.

"For some reason, the child was returned to the parents and they left for a neighbouring state, where they continued the abuse and later fled further north. The child eventually died from the repeated abuse."


If it's physical abuse, it's harder for the adults around the child to ignore, but what if the abuse is of a more discreet nature -- like sexual or emotional abuse?

"If it's rape, you can look for signs of penetration, but what if it's molest and the authorities are not trained enough to identify this?" asked Farah.

This is not a far-fetched scenario because the bulk of people who work with abused children are social workers of the Welfare Department who haven't been properly trained for the job.

It was previously reported that a 2005 survey commissioned by the department showed only one out of 10 social workers had any social work background.

Vijayakumari remembered a case where the ineptitude of a welfare officer caused a suspected paedophile to be let off the hook.

"We were informed of the sexual abuse by the suspect's wife. When we went to investigate, the officer did not remove the victim from the suspect's home, but instead, gave counselling to the suspect."

The reason -- the officer didn't want the suspect to lose his job as he was the sole breadwinner of the family.

Disturbed by the officer's handling of the case, Vijayakumari reported the matter to Bukit Aman.

However, she was horrified to learn later that a policeman had asked the suspect to bring his alleged victim to the police station.

"Then the policeman took the boy home and told his parents not to let him visit the suspect's house too often. That was that, case closed."

"Sometimes, the well-being of the child just isn't made the priority, as it should be," said Dr Irene Cheah, who heads the Suspected Child Abuse and Neglect team at Hospital Kuala Lumpur.

Magistrates in the children's court are also said to be lacking in their handling of children's issues.

"They deal with children's matters but are sometimes unaware of the provisions in the Child Act. Some don't even have a list of the homes where a child can be sent to," said James Nayagam, executive director of Shelter Home for children.

Some court advisers are also ignorant of the provisions in the Act and the rights of a child, he said, adding that in most cases, the courts tend to just go with what the welfare officer reported.

Farah said magistrates needed to be trained to deal with children's matters.

"In other jurisdictions, in New Zealand for instance, you do not become a judge unless you've had at least 15 years' experience as a practitioner.

"But here, the magistrate's position can go to someone who has just popped out from convocation day. So you can't blame him or her for inexperience."

She wondered how many of them had visited welfare homes for abused children or rehabilitation institutions like Sekolah Tunas Bakti and the Henry Gurney School, "where they conveniently send children to".

Describing the situation as "pathetic", she said they should at least visit these places and find out what they were like. Infernal delays from government red tape and insufficient resources are also further compounding the problem.

"Say there's an abused child on the streets of Kuala Lumpur.

"There's no information easily available on where they can go for help; no one to tell him what his rights are, or to tell the mother what the child's rights are," said Dr Hartini Zainudin of the Nursalam Chow Kit Shelter for abused and neglected children.


This is a worrying situation for a country which signed and ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) some 12 years back.

But as Malaysia joins the world to celebrate the 18th anniversary of the CRC on Tuesday, Hartini said "there is light yet at the end of the tunnel".

"I wouldn't have been able to say that to you six months ago. But things are moving in the right direction now."

The education consultant who had worked with children for over 22 years in New York and came back three years ago admitted she had a massive culture shock when she started working with children here.

"A lot of support system that I assumed were in place weren't. (But) the government has been made aware of this.

"Still, it's an on-going process to develop a system that works for us; just that there're not enough resources and experts to formulate a comprehensive plan immediately."

So what happens in the meantime?

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that's why i think child protection policy is very important to be adopted in the place
where children are involved --

none - or i should say very small number of parents really LISTEN to their child when it is
involve about abusive situation ---  therefore adult should be more attuned in listening
to the kids --

adult also have these tendency to feel 'power constant' whereby they know that whatever
they do to their kids - there'll be hardly a counter attack by kids towards them --  this kind
of abusive mind  should be erased from the parents or guardian of small children --

- lots of cases happened in malaysia where the abused children being returned to their parents
after a brief period of times - and this kids won't get any protection against the adult --

i call for parents and guardian -- please LISTEN to your children MORE - and attuned to their
whereabout and understand that  these children are your 'amanah'  therefore you are responsible
for their 'well-being' and safety ---   

please TAKE care of your children and always make them feel safe with you and give them
the best care  so that they will feel loved! --
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 Author| Post time 18-11-2007 08:53 PM | Show all posts


a very good article for us to share --

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CHILD SPECIALISTS BADLY NEEDED

ONLY specially trained people should interview a child, and he or she should use the language that the child is comfortable with.

Retired assistant director of the Welfare Department, Vijayakumari Pillai, recalled the case of an Indian boy who wrongly pointed out his abuser when he misunderstood a question a police officer asked in Malay.

She said if language was a problem, an interpreter could be engaged. In many instances, she said children who were interviewed were subjected to multiple interrogations by the authorities, and this could be traumatising.

"We've been speaking about having one person, a child specialist or therapist, to interview the child for the last 20 years but it's still not happening."

Dr Farah Nini Dusuki, vice-president of the Malaysian Association for the Protection of Children, said Malaysia should consider adopting the child advocate system where the child would have a lawyer representing him or her in court for both public and private proceedings.

Vijayakumari thinks that everyone who deals with children, including childcare providers, teachers, welfare officers, police and medical personnel, should have some basic knowledge of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC).

"But how many people actually remember the CRC? We often talk about the Child Protection Act but nobody talks about the CRC."

She said children and families who were educated on the CRC would learn about their rights to personal safety, protection, development and education and grow up to respect one another more fully.

"If CRC is really implemented in schools, kindergartens and homes, there would be fewer cases of abuse, molest and rape."

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they should have a child specialist  or  a welfare workers whom understand
the chilldren better --

sometimes children speak the different linga  and as an adult we might
interpret it differently   thus, to have a child specialist is quite crucial
to understand them ---

i think - it is true that many didnt realize about crc (convention on the rights of
the child)  that's why we can see lots of parents whom didnt understand this
didnt even bother to send their kids to school to get a proper education -
regardless perhaps they have no money - there's always welfare department
to lend a hand and give extra dough so that the kids can go to school and
learn --   as well -- with CRC   i gather more children will be safer and protected
and consequences there'll be fewer abuse cases ---
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 Author| Post time 18-11-2007 09:08 PM | Show all posts
CONVENTION GUIDED BY FOUR PRINCIPLES

THE Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on Nov 20, 1989, recognises the civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of children.


Malaysia is one of the 193 countries which have ratified the CRC. Malaysia signed the CRC in 1995.

Somalia and the United States, although both have signed it, are the only two countries in the world who have not yet given the CRC legal force.

The convention states that everyone under the age of 18 (the definition of a child), regardless of gender, origin, religion or possible disabilities, needs special care and protection because children are often the most vulnerable.

Guiding principles:

Although the convention has 54 articles in all, it is guided by four fundamental principles.


    * Non-discrimination (article 2): You should neither benefit nor suffer because of your race, colour, gender, language, religion, or national, social or ethnic origin, or because of any political or other opinion; because of your caste, property or birth status; or because you are disabled.

    * The best interests of the child (article 3): Laws and actions affecting children should put your best interests first and benefit you in the best possible way.

    * Survival, development and protection (article 6): The authorities in your country must protect you and help ensure your full development -- physical, spiritual, moral and social.

    * Participation (article 12): You have a right to have your say in decisions that affect you, and to have your opinions taken into account.

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i for one think that this convention guides should be implemented to most
centres, schools or any places that have children involved --

having the CRC  no doubt can help to protect the children from continuing
being abused or take advantage by the adult! --

children have their own rights to be treated with respect and not only the
family or parents but the country itself must ensure that they are being
protected physically, spiritually, morally and socially --
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2007 01:01 AM | Show all posts
CHILD PROTECTION:  Draw up clear guidelines

let's see the summarized that i did for the child protection - a clear
guidelines from the women's centre for change in penang --

let's hope we learn a thing or two and how to protect our children
from being abused !! ---


- women's centre for change penang welcomes the announcement of a child
protection policy in light of the murders and sexual abuse of children -

-- there's child act that will also be amended to make mandatory for teachers
to report abuse against children besides doctors and childcare providers -

---  some concerns which need to be addressed : ---

* - support for family members -- many people find it difficult to report child sexual
abuse for many reasons, especially when the perpetrator is a family member - and
fear of retaliation from the perpetrator -

* - to encourage people to lodge reports -  there should be emotional support for
the child or family as well as financial aid if the abuser is the breadwinner in the family --
it is vital that society is sensitized to the issue so that the neighborhoods can support
the family when an incident happens --

* - support for those reporting -  many individual are not sure what to do when faced
with a child sexual abuse complaint -   some are uncertain of the agencies to contact or
the procedures to follow --   some maybe fearful of retaliation from the perpetrator -

* - one teacher complained of being accused by school authorities of embarrassing the
school when she highlighted the sexual misconduct of a teacher towards his students -
there must be guidelines for reporting as well as support and protection for teachers
and other professionals if mandatory reporting is to be implemented -

* - support for the victim -  even long after the incident - an abused child can continue
to suffer!!! -- the "healing" process is very important !!! --

* - time and again, the centre has come across children who were traumatized by past
events of abuse --

* - avenues for these children to seek help to overcome this problem are limited --

* -there is a desperate need for therapists in this area, not just for child victims but also for
child perpetrators  or (young offenders/juvenile offenders)  -

* the centre urges the government to take a more integrated approach towards mandatory
reporting and child protection --

* unless and until reporting procedures and support structures are in place, policies and
legislation relating to mandatory reporting will continue to remain mere words on paper --


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 Author| Post time 11-12-2007 05:47 PM | Show all posts
Didera ibu tiri, bapa
Oleh Saipul Adli Mohamad

KOTA TINGGI: Rasa tidak sedap hati seorang lelaki selepas melihat lima anak saudaranya kurang ceria dan dalam ketakutan ketika melawat mereka di Tanjung Sedili, dekat sini, Jumaat lalu, membongkar derita kanak-kanak itu yang dipercayai didera bapa kandung serta ibu tiri.

Lelaki terbabit kemudian memeriksa badan kelima-lima anak saudaranya dan mendapati ada kesan lebam serta luka pada beberapa anggota badan empat daripada mereka, sebelum membuat laporan polis pada hari sama kerana mengesyaki mereka menjadi mangsa dera.

Timbalan Ketua Polis Daerah, Deputi Superintendan Muhammad Shamsuddin, berkata susulan laporan polis dibuat lelaki terbabit, pihaknya menahan sepasang suami isteri berusia 40-an, kelmarin untuk membantu siasatan.

揃apa saudara kanak-kanak itu terkejut apabila mendapati mereka yang berusia antara tiga hingga lapan tahun terlalu kurus, ketakutan, mata bengkak serta ada kesan lebam dan luka di badan.

揂dik bongsu daripada lima beradik itu yang berusia setahun dipercayai tidak didera kerana tiada kesan penderaan pada badannya.

揃erikutan itu, kita menahan sepasang suami isteri Ahad lalu untuk membantu siasatan mengikut Seksyen 31 (1) (a) Akta Kanak-Kanak 2001,
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Post time 11-12-2007 05:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dexa at 11-12-2007 05:47 PM
Didera ibu tiri, bapa
Oleh Saipul Adli Mohamad

KOTA TINGGI: Rasa tidak sedap hati seorang lelaki selepas melihat lima anak saudaranya kurang ceria dan dalam ketakutan ketika melawat mereka di ...



zaman ni pun masih ada parents ygn dera anak sendiri...:@
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 Author| Post time 11-12-2007 07:09 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 tina_turner's post

kalau dah nama pun manusia
dari zaman jahilliyah - waima zaman
nabi musa (firaun bunuh anak2 lelaki)
ke zaman muhammad saw orang2 arab
menanam kanak2 perempuan sampai sekarang
tak henti-henti sama ada mendera, membuang
dan membunuh dengan kejam kerana sikap manusia
yang tidak  berpegang kepada agama  -
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 Author| Post time 31-12-2007 06:08 AM | Show all posts
Bapa disyaki dera anak hingga mati ditahan

JOHOR BAHRU 30 Dis.
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:00 AM | Show all posts

Patah tangan sebab bapa geram

Patah tangan sebab bapa geram

Oleh MOHD. TURMADZI MADUN

KUALA LUMPUR
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:01 AM | Show all posts
what d toot kind of father :@ :@
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:02 AM | Show all posts
lorr..nape x patah kn terus tengkok bbdk tuh?
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:09 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 yipun78's post



not exactly the heartwarming kinda of news expected to start off the new year
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:11 AM | Show all posts
eishh.. lagi anak jadi mangsa..
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:11 AM | Show all posts
Kalau duk umat flat, buang je anak luar tingkap tu. Kate la terjatuh ke, ape ke...
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:12 AM | Show all posts
aparaa...
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:13 AM | Show all posts
ramai org mesia yg jiwa parah skrg ni
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:15 AM | Show all posts
takde pertimbangan akal punya bapak
boleh lagi hidup orang macam ni
kasi sula je
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:15 AM | Show all posts
geramnya aku.... bodo.... mmg jantan tak guna.....
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Post time 2-1-2008 10:18 AM | Show all posts
patahkan tangan si bapak tu pulak..an eye for an eye..biar dia rasa sakit ke tidak..:@
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