Bride Kidnapping In Central Asia

hamizao

I know that during Jenghiz Khan's time, the men wiould kidnap brides from another tribe. His mum was kidnapped and so did happen to his wife later on the pretex of revenge for what his dad had done.

Recently, I came to discover that the men of Kyrgyzstan also kidnap their brides, a  tradition that's normal to them. You may read a story from here: http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/kyrgyzstan/thestory.html

Though the tradition was banned by the Russian laws previously, it is coming back. I wonder where else this can be found.

z3t_ex

Interesting tradition..
go go go..kidnap her

astatine

bukan kat indon pun ada ke tradisi nih... tu yg budak2 pempuan Malaysia kena kidnap kawin kat indon

aziz79

3# astatine
yurp.. kat lombok..

hamizao

I understand it is an old normadic custom where tribes may have lived separately. Instead of inbreeding with their own tribal people which may  be too small in number, they took away the girls from other tribes especially when an amicable arrangement looked impossible.

This tradition is also practised in many Central Asian countries like Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Uzbekistan, Chechnya and so on.......all countries which were once part of the Mongol Empire.........

hamizao

bukan kat indon pun ada ke tradisi nih... tu yg budak2 pempuan Malaysia kena kidnap kawin kat indon
astatine Post at 2-8-2009 21:59

Postlah ceritanya.

JulietTheOrange

ader masuk lam mastika pasal lombok kidnap pasangan nih

reddots

hmmm, camner ek nak stori mori pasal ni..
rasanya kat brunei pon ada.. tp tak sure zaman sultan mana tah.. kidnapped bride ni.. tp yg aku tau dan ingat, (dgr dari mulut org tetua jer...)semenjak tu, adat perkahwinan brunei mmg ada tutup2 muka ni..
alah, kalau korang ingat lagi masa perkahwinan Diraja tu, kan ada Pg anak Isteri Sarah , muka dia ditutup dgn kain merah o biru tak silap aku.. tp  bila dah duduk kat pelamin, kain tu akan dibuka.. kiranya mcm tu la.. tak sure bleh masuk kat sini kat tak stori aku nih..

hamizao

7# JulietTheOrange
I found something about Lombok (by xuessium):

Lombok is home to the Sasak Muslims and they are considerably much more conservative compared to the Balinese (who are incidentally Hindus) just next door.
[The island's inhabitants are 85% Sasak (a people, closely related to the Balinese, but mostly practising Islam), 10-15% Balinese, with the small remainder being Chinese, Arab, Javanese, and Sumbawanese]

Unlike the Muslims in general, the Sasak in Northern and west Lombok have a caste system. There are four caste castes, the highest being Datu for men and Denek Bini for women, the second Raden for men, and Denda for women, the third Buling and the fourth Jajar Karang. In Central and East Lombok, Lalu for men and Lale for women.

Religion, that is, Islam is a driving force as a way of life and the Sasaks are pious Muslims. Me & my mate invited our waiter to sit down at our table (us being the only customer anyway) and had a good chat with him and me & my mate realised that while the people on Lombok wanted progress, they wanted none of the debauchery that usually comes along with it. They greatly treasure family life and many locals having sought and received their fortunes elsewhere, will usually return to their true home eventually. ...................................

hamizao

Now their marriage customs (by xuessium):

Very lucky to encounter a Lombok-style wedding. Great photography opportunities!! Was really puzzled why the bride was not smiling at all!

Young couples in Lombok have a choice of three marriage rituals; an arranged marriage, a union between cousins and elopement. The first two are uncomplicated: parents of the prospective bridal couple meet to discuss the bride's dowry and sort out any religious differences. Having handled the business arrangements, the ceremony called "Sorong Serah" is performed.

The third method is far more complicated and dramatic. Theoretically a young girl is forbidden to marry a lower caste man, but this rule can be broken through "kidnapping" and "eloping" and thus still is a widespread practice on Lombok, despite the fact that in most instances, the parents of the couple know what's afoot. Originally it was used to elude other competitors for the girl's hand or to avoid family friction, but it also minimised the heavy expenses of a wedding ceremony. The laid down rules of this ritual must be followed step by step. After the girl is spirited away by the boy, he is to report to the Kepala Desa (Village Chief). The Kepala Desa then notifies the girl's family through their village head. A delegation from the boy's family visits the girl's parent, and between them they settle on a price for the bride, a fine (uang adat) which is distributed among members of the bride's family in recompense for losing her.

Traditional dowries are worked out according to the caste differences; the lower his caste and the higher hers, the more he has to pay. Once settled the wedding begins. Generally the bride and the groom are dressed in ceremonial clothes, carried through the village's street, accompanied with sounds of traditional music (gamelan) mingled with the shouts and laughters of the guests as the couple are swooped up and down and around on their way to the wedding place. Throughout the whole ceremony, the bride must look downcast and unhappy at the prospect of leaving her family (Lightbulb!!).

hamizao

I only know posting the url. Please help if you know how to do a better posting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIYG8adhNiw&feature=channel

sonyabladerun

I met this bride at  international dating sites and she is really very kind and smart. I was confused by the news she was kidnaped in Central Asia. Maybe someone knows her faith? I would like to meet her and help with anything she needs. I was kidnaped in my childhood, so i know how it is and what print it leaves on your mental health.

pokaibanktokyo

Budaya bangsa babu, bangsa hamba abdi

pokaibanktokyo

astatine replied at 2-8-2009 01:59 PM
bukan kat indon pun ada ke tradisi nih... tu yg budak2 pempuan Malaysia kena kidnap kawin kat indon

Lombok bangsa babu guna sihir. Kalau tidak siapalah nak kawin bangsa lembik 2B miskin hina

pokaibanktokyo

Bride kidnapping is a slave race tradition

mienina

reddots replied at 3-8-2009 03:18 PM
hmmm, camner ek nak stori mori pasal ni..
rasanya kat brunei pon ada.. tp tak sure zaman sultan man ...

Menarik ni. Klu x keberatan dan boleh share cerita lah. Nak dgr juga ni. Thanks