Christians say we live once, Buddhists insist on rebirth. Who to believe then?

Emoloser

I assume that  most of people who is religious, they are lack of dopamine in their brain. They do  not enjoy in what they are doing. So they felt empty inside, therefore they are looking something outside from their life and starting using imagination to create something beyond normal human thinking. The medical terms is "Negative schizophrenic".

I would say that, these were happening to most of well known religion avatar. Anyway, this is just my speculation.

Sephiroth

I assume that  most of people who is religious, they are lack of dopamine in their brain. They do  n ...
Emoloser Post at 31-3-2012 10:09

Are you a medical doctor? A professional shrink? Or just a crackpot making claims?

genot

21 # Anyway, this is just my speculation.

I assume that  most of people who is religious,

This is your mere speculation and assumption. My speculation, you might also have the simptom as well

genot

Believe in Buddha... If we are Buddhists and believe in Jesus, then we are not Buddhist anymore but Christians. Then what is the use of Trairattana (Buddham the Guru of human and tewada, Dhammam n Sangham Saranam Gacchaami)?

tuakang

genot posted on 14-9-2012 04:27 PM
Believe in Buddha... If we are Buddhists and believe in Jesus, then we are not Buddhist anymore but  ...

so .. kena ada kefahaman “中庸” 。。 iaitu "center" .. tengah tengah ....   selepas itu anda akan faham direction anda ..  

Sephiroth

Something all Christians should watch, listen and understand carefully :

Source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPTABj96MyY

Facts to take note :

1. Church REMOVED the teaching of Jesus regarding Reincarnation cos the Church thought that the people will waste their lives IF they knew they had multiple life times. Unfortunately, they did not anticipate that even with one life time, a person can still waste it by being an atheist.

2. Father Peter admits that Laws of Karma is universal law - even in Christianity - even quote some of the verses from the Bible about what you do is what you get. Therefore, logically speaking, Laws of Karma is Universal Law which transcends religion and race.

wei_loon5063

tuakang posted on 18-1-2012 10:38 AM
yeah .. li chun ..

every year one time only ..

This is astronomy, soltice and movement of the moon

wei_loon5063

orangbesi posted on 10-3-2012 11:00 AM
Reply 19# Buddhitakso

BUDDHA  tidak pernah kata ajaran dia adalah ajaran agama, atau dia tu tuhan ataupun dia nabi etc...

dia cuma tunjuk masalah yg sedia ada selama billion tahun (dhukka & anicca) - keperitan & ketidak kekalan

ajaran dia dipanggil Dhamma (ultimate reality)

u tanya saya, saya boleh kata ajaran dia melingkungi

counseling, astronomy, physics, psychology, quantum mechanics, cosmology, biology,

tapi tak pernah saya jumpa sepatah ayat dalam sutta yang mengatakan buddha anggap dia tuhan / suruh kitaq sembah dia

orangbesi

Sephiroth posted on 16-10-2012 11:21 AM
Something all Christians should watch, listen and understand carefully :

Source : http://www.yout ...

1. Church REMOVED the teaching of Jesus regarding Reincarnation cos the Church thought that the people will waste their lives IF they knew they had multiple life times. Unfortunately, they did not anticipate that even with one life time, a person can still waste it by being an atheist.
2. Father Peter admits that Laws of Karma is universal law - even in Christianity - even quote some of the verses from the Bible about what you do is what you get. Therefore, logically speaking, Laws of Karma is Universal Law which transcends religion and race.


dulu pun aku ingat camni juga
tapi bila aku selami nya...............dah tak betul la kawan

bukan diLAHIRKAN semula
cuma...................berpindah alam

orangbesi

wei_loon5063 posted on 2-5-2014 02:28 PM
BUDDHA  tidak pernah kata ajaran dia adalah ajaran agama, atau dia tu tuhan ataupun dia nabi e ...

BUDDHA  tidak pernah kata ajaran dia adalah ajaran agama, atau dia tu tuhan ataupun dia nabi etc...
dia cuma tunjuk masalah yg sedia ada selama billion tahun (dhukka & anicca) - keperitan & ketidak kekalan
ajaran dia dipanggil Dhamma (ultimate reality)
u tanya saya, saya boleh kata ajaran dia melingkungi
counseling, astronomy, physics, psychology, quantum mechanics, cosmology, biology,
tapi tak pernah saya jumpa sepatah ayat dalam sutta yang mengatakan buddha anggap dia tuhan / suruh kitaq sembah dia


sejahtera wahai kawanku

aik - masa bila aku kata buddha adalah tuhan yg perlu disembah?
  aku pun tahu dia adalah pemimpin
  jasad yg dekat dgn YANG MENGUASAI SEGALANYA

istilah agama = tatacara hidup yg ditetapkan
   sebagaimana buddha tetapkan KEBENARAN yg tulus dr hatinya
   itulah AGAMA
   dan benar tu .......agama/ajaran merangkumi semuanya

baru le sempurna hidup ini kannnnn

vikramavardhana

Lahir semula, jelmaan semula, zahir semula.... Ini semua perkataan merujuk kpd roh-roh yg memasuki rantau alam2 berlainan... Terdapat pelbagai jenis rantau alam di alam semesta ini... memang semua perkara dalam alam semesta ini tertakluk kepada anitya (tidak kekal)... Merenung terlampau mengenai jiva (roh) termasuk dlm 14 perkara yg membuang masa (Jetavan Vihar, Sabbhasava Sutra)...

wei_loon5063

sejahtera wahai kawanku

aik - masa bila aku kata buddha adalah tuhan yg perlu disembah?
  aku pun tahu dia adalah pemimpin
  jasad yg dekat dgn YANG MENGUASAI SEGALANYA

istilah agama = tatacara hidup yg ditetapkan
   sebagaimana buddha tetapkan KEBENARAN yg tulus dr hatinya
   itulah AGAMA
   dan benar tu .......agama/ajaran merangkumi semuanya

baru le sempurna hidup ini kannnnn

thank you, but agama/religion adalah nama yang you panggil dhamma, tapi dhamma bukan apa yang agama rujuk

vikramavardhana

Dharma menurut fahaman kita...

• keadaan fitrah sesuatu, yatha butha
• undang2 alam semesta secara tertentu atau menyeluruh
• ajaran2 Guru Buddha sbg penjelasan bg undang2 alam yg terpakai utk masalah2 penderitaan manusya
• fenomena2 dan yg berkait dgn nya
  

pengamalan ajaran Buddha itu dharma vinaya... pemahaman ciri2 fitrah kejadian alam itu dharma vicaya...

agama merujuk kpd kitab2 suci... 5 semua... dgn tambahan tradisi2....

wei_loon5063

BUDDHA SAY:

O, bhikkus(monks), every second every moment, you are born, decay and die.... same as us, same as now, same as you and me.... we are constantly born, decay and die... every second.

those who deny without understanding is deem as ignorant(ajiva)

Sephiroth

wei_loon5063 posted on 8-6-2014 10:38 AM
BUDDHA SAY:

O, bhikkus(monks), every second every moment, you are born, decay and die.... same as ...

And yet, as our body constantly changes and we are born, decay and die in every moment, something within us remains the same. Therefore, Why is it so difficult for Buddha to believe that something equally "indestructible" exist within all of us which enable us to connect to our metaphysical state (the Mind) and our physical state (the body)?

Emoloser

spirit made of substance which can decay and dissolve, consciousness does not dissolve, therefore rebirth in other form of substance, consciousness is God itself.

substance can be created by consciousness if we learn to use our consciousness properly, if we rebirth in advance form, we will learn how to use conciousness to create matter or spirit or other substances we prefer.

Sephiroth

by Emoloser

spirit made of substance which can decay and dissolve, consciousness does not dissolve, therefore rebirth in other form of substance, consciousness is God itself.  

And what is Consciousness? What is Spirit? Anything created by the physical body WILL die with the death of the Physical body, so if you are to say that Consciousness goes into another body (reincarnate), then what is the different between Consciousness and Soul?

substance can be created by consciousness if we learn to use our consciousness properly, if we rebirth in advance form, we will learn how to use conciousness to create matter or spirit or other substances we prefer.

And where did Buddha taught that? Which Sutra says that?

Sephiroth

The Gita – Chapter 2 – Shloka 24

क्योंकि यह आत्मा अच्छेध है, यह आत्मा अदाह्रा अक्लेध और नि:संदेह अशोष्य है तथा यह आत्मा नित्य, सर्वव्यापी, अचल, स्थिर रहने वाला और सनातन है ।। २४ ।।

The Soul is eternal, everlasting. It cannot be destroyed, broken or burnt; it cannot become wet nor become dried. The Soul is the most stable thing in the universe, it is immovable and present throughout the universe.

Most stable, immovable and present throughout the Universe. Definition of a Soul in Bhavagad Gita. If this is not definition of Energy, then what is?

Ps : Immovable here means that the atoms are in stable condition and even if it is taken apart, the atoms cannot be destroyed and will form another cluster and get together.

Emoloser

And what is Consciousness? What is Spirit? Anything created by the physical body WILL die with the death of the Physical body, so if you are to say that Consciousness goes into another body (reincarnate), then what is the different between Consciousness and Soul?

soul has consciousness,  consciousness not necessarily a soul, everything has it's own consciousness including an atom, but the level of consciousness is different according to the level of evolution.

  substance can be created by consciousness if we learn to use our consciousness properly, if we rebirth in advance form, we will learn how to use conciousness to create matter or spirit or other substances we prefer.



And where did Buddha taught that? Which Sutra says that?

from OASHPE

Emoloser

Sephiroth posted on 16-10-2012 11:21 AM
Something all Christians should watch, listen and understand carefully :

Source : http://www.yout ...

the reason behind christian dan islam being introduce is to deny the existance of soul reincarntion into other body. Soul reincarnation
are meant to manupulate human body with extra soul in order to produce higher energy fo occult purposes. Every creature that born
into this world has its own soul and this soul eventually decay and dissolve. When this soul being reincarnated to other human or animal
body, the body will have extra soul which could produce extra energy since its brings past life karma. This extra energy being produce
will be consumed by dark forces to extend theirs soul existance.