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[Dunia] Wanita mati otak dikekalkan hidup demi fetus dalam rahim

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Post time 21-12-2014 08:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Sedihnya nasib baby tu
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Post time 21-12-2014 08:15 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Badut.Sarkas posted on 21-12-2014 08:11 PM
In 1 part of world,  fetus cube diselamatkan.. in another part of the world, kanak2 mati ditembak. S ...

Ler, ni satu jasad bernyawa potentially viable and they are trying to determine the right of a foetus to survive...

Yg perang tu like Zionist bunuh kekanak tembak tu , yg mrmbunuh tu yg miemilih untuk bunuh...

Kalau religion yg benar, dah tahu dah jawapan pada aspek nyawa, akal, jasad dan harta benda
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Post time 21-12-2014 08:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
So what is life? How would u know that you are alive?

Coma je ke kita tau di mana seseorang tu brain dead...???

Sebelum locked in syndrome didokumentasi....berapa nyawa dah 'off' mcm tu?

Hmm? Commonlah pengetahuan manusia terbatas...yg besar Al Haq , agk aneh bila ada yg jyangkan isu ni atas nama hak asasi tapi menafikan hak asasi potentially viable ,

Lagi satu foetus tu satu term, adakah foetus itu DIKIRA MSNUSIA???

Jawablaaaa
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Post time 21-12-2014 08:25 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 21-12-2014 08:11 PM
4 months foetus cuma nak prolong at least 34 minggu to37 weeks...

Sebab tu bila fitrah dikecual ...

Menurut pakar medical fetus 16 minggu tu terlalu awal utk diselamatkan dan peluang utk selamat sgt tipis. Makin terseksalah tubuh si ibu, sudahlah dijadikan inkubator jd subjek testing utk melihat kot2 fetus tu ada survival chance utk hidup. Tambah lg si ibu berhadapan dgn komplikasi kesihatan. Ramai doktor menolak utk meneruskan life support utk kes sebegitu atas sebab etika. Dan ai setuju dgn @Decaffeinated  - too much playing God.
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Post time 21-12-2014 08:36 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 21-12-2014 09:05 PM
Kat sini satu nyawa dlm badan seorang ibu hidup....tak show pun signs of deterioration

i pon tak sanggup. tapi i kinda get to thinking about the latter effects of being housed by a brain-dead mother. macam, would this affect the baby's brain and health? it's such a scary thing to think about.
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Post time 21-12-2014 08:45 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 21-12-2014 09:19 PM
So what is life? How would u know that you are alive?

Coma je ke kita tau di mana seseorang tu br ...

betul as what you're saying. who are we to decide about one's chance of living. if the mother had the say, she would want to save her baby too cause that's just an instinct of a parent. and if there were some side affects of being carried by a brain-dead mother, i guess that's the lesson we have to learn. hopefully the child will be supported well by whomever responsibled.
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Post time 21-12-2014 09:17 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 21-12-2014 08:15 PM
Ler, ni satu jasad bernyawa potentially viable and they are trying to determine the right of a foe ...

Ohh zionis rupanya tembak budak2 sekolah Pakistan tu, ingatkan Ummah taliban. Aku dah tertipu ngan dakyah yahudi rupanya.
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Post time 21-12-2014 09:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
dani-rox posted on 21-12-2014 08:25 PM
Menurut pakar medical fetus 16 minggu tu terlalu awal utk diselamatkan dan peluang utk selamat sgt ...

Ler sebab tu depa nak prolong to at least but if the mom's really cant sustain and there are signs of deterioration , letthem both passed away with that mechanism. Tak rugi pun.

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Post time 21-12-2014 09:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Robab posted on 21-12-2014 08:45 PM
betul as what you're saying. who are we to decide about one's chance of living. if the mother had  ...

I go by this rule je, do no harm. Lagipun i percaya pakar perubatan in ITU, obstetrician and neonatologist lebih pakar untuk judge the clinical status of the two parties. Pasal condition of the foetus tu, kita tak tahu pun , how's the baby is progressing, the baby heart rate ctg ke, routine ultra soubd dcsn ke, placenta function ke? Baby's echo record ke? Ade ke sign of deterioration?

I mean senang  untuk discuss bebenda ni mmg atas kertas segala mcm mmg menarik...tapi kan benda ni juga it has something to do with the family reaction to unfavourable event, their psychology...ni pasal kubbler ross stages jugak ni...on the family...sebab tu may be ini juga faktor yg dihighlight

Pada i...right now the baby..tu dulu.

Eee tak sanggup...nak switched off...UNLESS the mom tulis sesiap surat DNR. do not resuscitate.
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Post time 21-12-2014 09:45 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
So, what is life?

Foetus is a human or what?

How can we define that the action taken is FOR THE BEST INTEREST of so and so?

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Post time 21-12-2014 09:49 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Badut.Sarkas posted on 21-12-2014 09:17 PM
Ohh zionis rupanya tembak budak2 sekolah Pakistan tu, ingatkan Ummah taliban. Aku dah tertipu ngan ...

I kata zionist yg tembak kanak kanak kat palestin...yg kat pakistan tu sama jugak, so ape halnya?

Itu pembunuh decides membunuh...

Dan saya ulangi agama yg benar dah bagi jawapan untuk keselamatan akal, nyawa ,jasad harta benda...

Kalau kita ada problem dgn religion atas kejahilan sendiri x payah nak salahksn agama.

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Post time 21-12-2014 09:52 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
The foetus is 4 months now , and might need another 3 more months saje at minimum...sebab sayang nyawa laa...ade ethics battle.
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Post time 21-12-2014 10:00 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 21-12-2014 09:49 PM
I kata zionist yg tembak kanak kanak kat palestin...yg kat pakistan tu sama jugak, so ape halnya?
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Ye la ye la aku percaya yang bunuh kanak2 Pakistan tu yahudi zionis.. and takde kena mengena ngan religion of peace.

Peace yo!
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Post time 21-12-2014 11:11 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf posted on 21-12-2014 09:34 PM
Ler sebab tu depa nak prolong to at least but if the mom's really cant sustain and there are signs ...

Senang kan, bole main2kan nyawa manusia esp. si ibu. We're talking about human being, not a machine that the doctors can turn on and off at their disposal.
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Post time 21-12-2014 11:20 PM | Show all posts
- A fetus can’t survive on its own. It is fully dependent on its mother’s body, unlike born human beings.

- Even if a fetus was alive, the “right to life” doesn’t imply a right to use somebody else’s body. People have the right to refuse to donate their organs, for example, even if doing so would save somebody else’s life.

- The “right to life” also doesn’t imply a right to live by threatening somebody else’s life. Bearing children is always a threat the life of the mother.

- A “right to life” is, at the end of the day, a right to not have somebody else’s will imposed upon your body. Do women not have this right as well?

That's all.
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Post time 23-12-2014 02:13 PM | Show all posts
practically sangat susah.. di malaysia - IMPOSSIBLE.. di negara maju, masih lagi ada harapan to defend that foetus.

too many issues will arise.. saya jangka dengan teknologi perubatan dunia masa kini, only slim chance is there.

morally- saya tentang. personal preference.
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