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Zakir Naik - a manifestation of religious muslims worldwide. !
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Consumption of pork causes several diseases The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.
Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature......Quote by Zakir Naik
Again, another blatant lies easily detected by a medical science literate like me. Consuming pork can cause no less than 70 diseases ??? This Zakir Naik was trained as a medical doctor before he became a religious ulama, is it possible that he is only a quack doctor or simply again he is making up a lies ! The answer is most likely the later.....
Just turn open Merck's Veterinary Manual, Bible for veterinarian. How many zoonotic diseases from pig which is tranmissible to human ??? Not more than 20 ! In fact, number of zoonotic diseases from cattle and sheep too are staggering and in fact in some cases, zoonotic diseases from ruminants are more dangerous than pig's ! Take Mad Cow Disease in cattle and it's counterpart in sheep, Scrapie for example, it is very deadly and dangerous because it is caused by Prion and unlike virus, bacteria and protozoa, it is very resistant to high heat treatment !
How about helminth diseases in ruminants ??? Deadly cysticercosis and hydatid disease in cattle and sheep are equally as menacing as other endoparasites disease in all livestock.
That's why in modern operation of abattoir, one has to inspect the carcass of regardless pig, cattle, sheep or goat to make sure that the final consumer ready meat are safe for consumption.
So you see, for a science literate like me, it is just too easy to expose the devilish lies by a revered ulama among muslim community !
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Pork has fat building material
Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.....Quote by Zakir Naik
From the above, one has to wonder why Zakir Naik's guru Ahmad Deedat suffered a debilitating stroke ??? Does Ahmad Deedat take even a pig's epithelium in his life ???
Latest findings in dietary science has confimed that lard (pig oil ) is a healthy oil which contains up to 45% Oleic Acid, a monounsaturated fat which is beneficial to the heart and has anti-depression property. It is much much healthier than butter. No wonder islamic countries are not known for longer life span.......
http://journal.livingfood.us/200 ... risco-or-margarine/
http://www.rodalenews.com/research-feed/healthy-cooking-oil
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Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth
"The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.
Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia,pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta." Quote by Zakir Naik
Again, a blatant lie orchestrated by the deceptive muslim Zakir Naik to vilify the innocent pigs.......
Anybody who has ever been to a piggery and cattle feedlot unit will be able to honestly share the encounter that pigs defecated mostly in the corner of their pig pen and try to stay away from their own droppings whereas cattle will simply defecate spontaneously and trample and lay on their droppings !
So, it is crystal clear that anybody who is filthier than a pig on this mother earth is Zakir Naik and who ever believe in this quranic fallacy !
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wkk5159 posted on 2-11-2013 08:49 PM 
You are truly a intern of Zakir Naik, don't you ? No wonder Christians find it redundant to even reply to your post and thread and only free thinker like me still enjoying the splendid moment of exposing naked lies in the likes of Zakir Naik and you.
I copied and pasted from other website for my response to Zakir Naik's vicious lies on pig and pork ?? You think i'm same level as you ah? Too ashamed of the fact that your Quran has been exposed to be just nothing more than a anti-science trash paper ? Or simply you are still in agonising pain that your master Zakir Naik's fallacy finally comes to an end ?
Unlike an under educated retard ustazy like you who hardly can write any substantial point of your own and rely solely on mother of all lies website like Loonwatch.com for your copy and paste reference. As a true professional in medical field, every single words i wrote to refute Zakir Naik's lies on innocent pigs was my own words plus some references from reliable neutral and science-based websites. Who do you think you are ? Naa.....give it a pass !
You are nothing more than a retarded islamic fundamenlist and most likely a potential terrorist. You are public enemy to every benign earthlings.
Retard australoid like you simply doesn't deserve any intellectual respond from me.
Ha ha , all hot air but nothing substantial. Your reference is not even to any scientific organization. Like I stated , you need to do 2 things to be taken seriously
(1) produce the scientific journal to support your case
(2) produce the biblical verses that state consumption of pork is allowed
So far you have failed on both counts but just blowing hot air. Yet you demand to be taken seriously? To such effect , you are just a clown.
(1) Scientific Journals
The Americal Journal of Clinical Nutrition
Conclusions: In these 2 cohorts combined, frequent consumption of bacon was associated with an elevated risk of bladder cancer
The CDC
Neurocysticercosis is a preventable parasitic infection caused by larval cysts (enclosed sacs containing the immature stage of a parasite) of the pork tapeworm (Taenia solium)...
An estimated 1,800-2,000 persons are diagnosed with neurocysticercosis each year in the United States.
The Genome Institute , Washington University
T. spiralis is the cause of most of the human trichinella infections and deaths around the world, and its pathogenicity is higher than that of other trichinella species due to the higher number of newborn larvae produced by the females and for the stronger immune reaction induced in humans. The life cycle of the parasite begins when a person or an animal eats contaminated meat containing larvae...
The geographical distribution of this species in wild mammals appears around current or past foci of infections originating from the domestic cycle i.e. pig transmission, but quickly infect the surrounding animal population.
The rate of infection has decreased over the years but still happening
(2) Verses in the bible that prohibit consumption of pigs
lev11:7-8 (NIV bible)
7 And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.
8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
Come on , lets see how you are going to respond.
Ha ha , probably with a lame excuse : '..No wonder Christians find it redundant to even reply to your post and thread and only free thinker like me still enjoying the splendid moment of exposing naked lies in the likes of Zakir Naik and you..'
Are you so scared to be challenged and questioned of the biblical verses you quoted? You are a coward who is afraid to be challenged. Ha ha ...
(3) The most glaring reference
The most glaring example is you. You are just snorting loudly here and there without reference and evidence. Like a razorback ... yes? Ha ha
Ha ha , lets see how this so called 'true professional in the medical field' respond. Oops ...soon you you will be blabbering about 'UMNO' lah , 'ranking of university' lah ....
So far all copy paste arguments from you from who knows where ... ha ha
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When i said that muslim like Zakir Naik and his intern sam1528 is spreading lies elsewhere is again and again reinforced by their valiant response in propagating lies...
The latest;
(1) Scientific Journals
The Americal Journal of Clinical Nutrition
Conclusions: In these 2 cohorts combined, frequent consumption of bacon was associated with an elevated risk of bladder cancer.....by Intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
The retrograde anti-science muslim like sam1528 is just like his master Zakir Naik is science illiterate and worse still devoid of slight knowledge in food science and only depend on references from copy and paste source in the net in which he can't even comprehend.
Can natural uncured and unprocessed pork cause cancer ??? Tell this to any food scientist and this ustazy's head will sure get hammered !
What is bacon ? Bacon is a treated pork belly which is high in inorganic phosphate salt which can cause cancer if consume excessively. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/healt ... e-cancers-grow.html
See, it is not the pork itself that cause cancer but rather the additive in it.
Similarly, those immitation ham which made from beef and even chicken sausages which is high in phosphate salt and sodium nitrite are equally the contributing factor for cancer if consumed excessively. This statement of course is from a science literate like me and this of course can be testified by any food scientist !
2)Neurocysticercosis is a preventable parasitic infection caused by larval cysts (enclosed sacs containing the immature stage of a parasite) of the pork tapeworm (Taenia solium)...by Intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
Cysticercosis present in many livestock and this include of course pig. Taenia solium cause cysticercosis in human if consume uncooked pork infected with Taenia solium, a type of tapeworm.
But how about cysticercosis caused by T.solium's counterpart, Taenia saginata in cattle ? It cause the same condition in human if consume uncooked beef infected with Taenia saginata.
See the above scientific facts i don't even require help from the website because i'm myself is an expert in this field and unlike science illiterate intern of Zakir Naik who is only good at.....you know lah
We have to thank the science illliterate muslim ustazy sam1528 for openly humiliate himself here.
3) T. spiralis is the cause of most of the human trichinella infections and deaths around the world, and its pathogenicity is higher than that of other trichinella species due to the higher number of newborn larvae produced by the females and for the stronger immune reaction induced in humans. The life cycle of the parasite begins when a person or an animal eats contaminated meat containing larvae...by Intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
How about Trichella in pig ? Any livestock if reared in unsatisfactory hunsbandary condition will have problem with nematodes(endoparasite) and this does not only confined to pigs, but ruminants like cattle, goat and sheep as welll.
This science illiterate ustazy sure never heard of gastrointestinal worm and lung worm in ruminants like Haemonchus, Trichostrongylus,Trichuris, Ancylostoma and Metastrongylus before and solely depends on copy and paste without understanding the significance of the disease.
Still pig headedly want to quote from Bible regarding consumption of pork like your God damed fore father Ahmad Deedat and Zakir Naik ???
You are a proven liar like any other devouted muslims and you still have the audacity to quote from Bible to support your fallacy ??? Piece of advice here, today is Sunday, there is plenty of Christians in the church, just go to the nearest church and ask any of the Christians and even pastors on the matter of pork and you will get the Biblical answer, why die die have to rely on the answer from a free thinker like me even i have answered it zillions time ? Are a fan of mine ??
on the second thought, why not you just ask the kids in the Sunday school for the answer, they are more than sufficient for a Zakir Naik's intern like you. 
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wkk5159 posted on 3-11-2013 09:07 AM
When i said that muslim like Zakir Naik and his intern sam1528 is spreading lies elsewhere is again and again reinforced by their valiant response in propagating lies...
The latest;
(1) Scientific Journals
The Americal Journal of Clinical Nutrition
Conclusions: In these 2 cohorts combined, frequent consumption of bacon was associated with an elevated risk of bladder cancer.....by Intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
The retrograde anti-science muslim like sam1528 is just like his master Zakir Naik is science illiterate and worse still devoid of slight knowledge in food science and only depend on references from copy and paste source in the net in which he can't even comprehend.
Can natural uncured and unprocessed pork cause cancer ??? Tell this to any food scientist and this ustazy's head will sure get hammered !
What is bacon ? Bacon is a treated pork belly which is high in inorganic phosphate salt which can cause cancer if consume excessively. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/healt ... e-cancers-grow.html
See, it is not the pork itself that cause cancer but rather the additive in it.
Similarly, those immitation ham which made from beef and even chicken sausages which is high in phosphate salt and sodium nitrite are equally the contributing factor for cancer if consumed excessively. This statement of course is from a science literate like me and this of course can be testified by any food scientist !
2)Neurocysticercosis is a preventable parasitic infection caused by larval cysts (enclosed sacs containing the immature stage of a parasite) of the pork tapeworm (Taenia solium)...by Intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
Cysticercosis present in many livestock and this include of course pig. Taenia solium cause cysticercosis in human if consume uncooked pork infected with Taenia solium, a type of tapeworm.
But how about cysticercosis caused by T.solium's counterpart, Taenia saginata in cattle ? It cause the same condition in human if consume uncooked beef infected with Taenia saginata.
See the above scientific facts i don't even require help from the website because i'm myself is an expert in this field and unlike science illiterate intern of Zakir Naik who is only good at.....you know lah
We have to thank the science illliterate muslim ustazy sam1528 for openly humiliate himself here.
3) T. spiralis is the cause of most of the human trichinella infections and deaths around the world, and its pathogenicity is higher than that of other trichinella species due to the higher number of newborn larvae produced by the females and for the stronger immune reaction induced in humans. The life cycle of the parasite begins when a person or an animal eats contaminated meat containing larvae...by Intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
How about Trichella in pig ? Any livestock if reared in unsatisfactory hunsbandary condition will have problem with nematodes(endoparasite) and this does not only confined to pigs, but ruminants like cattle, goat and sheep as welll.
This science illiterate ustazy sure never heard of gastrointestinal worm and lung worm in ruminants like Haemonchus, Trichostrongylus,Trichuris, Ancylostoma and Metastrongylus before and solely depends on copy and paste without understanding the significance of the disease.
Still pig headedly want to quote from Bible regarding consumption of pork like your God damed fore father Ahmad Deedat and Zakir Naik ???
You are a proven liar like any other devouted muslims and you still have the audacity to quote from Bible to support your fallacy ??? Piece of advice here, today is Sunday, there is plenty of Christians in the church, just go to the nearest church and ask any of the Christians and even pastors on the matter of pork and you will get the Biblical answer, why die die have to rely on the answer from a free thinker like me even i have answered it zillions time ? Are a fan of mine ??
on the second thought, why not you just ask the kids in the Sunday school for the answer, they are more than sufficient for a Zakir Naik's intern like you. 
Ha ha , again you are trying to disengenously argue your way thru. Lets look at your arguments
(1) Cause of cancer is multifactorial. Therefore such combination that produce bacon causes the said cancer. I am surprised that you jumped on to such conclusion as your link states as follows :
However, experts urged caution over using the results of the trials on mice to predict the effect of phosphates on humans.
Professor Stephen Spiro, of the British Lung Foundation, said: 'The authors claim that in mice with lung cancer a diet high in phosphates increases lung cancer growth rates.
'While this may be a relevant observation, it has never been assessed in man. Further study would be required to ascertain any link in humans.'
How do you make your conclusion being :
See, it is not the pork itself that cause cancer but rather the additive in it.
Ha ha , you are making an assumption not data driven conclusion. Too bad , you have been caught out again.
We cannot run away from the fact that pork is part of the equation. Therefore the argument still stand. You need to understand the conclusion which I will quote :
In these 2 cohorts combined, frequent consumption of bacon was associated with an elevated risk of bladder cancer.
BTW , becon has been aroud since 1500BC. It is part of pork consumption. Whether it is processed or not , is it still a pork product? Yes or no?
(2) Taenia saginata in cattle
Of course there is but the difference here is that we muslims are prohibited to consume blood and rare meat. This already has already fulfill the required preparation. So how is it now? Again , the dietary laws plus its preparation shows that we muslims have been right all along. The CDC reportInfections with T. saginata occur wherever contaminated raw beef is eaten, particularly in Eastern Europe, Russia, eastern Africa and Latin America.
T. solium are more prevalent in under-developed communities with poor sanitation and where people eat raw or undercooked pork. Higher rates of illness have been seen in people in Latin America, Eastern Europe, sub-Saharan Africa, India, and Asia.
None or very low occurance in the dominant muslim areas. The data don't lie. Its not only prohibition of pork but the method of how meat it is cooked has been laid out to us muslims. Appears that Islam is from God after all.
(3) Didn't you read my post. I stated that it is decreasing but nevertheless still occuring. This is really funny , you pig eaters were so scared to consume pigs during the outbreak of the Nipah Virus. Anything equivalent happened to the cattle / mutton / lamb industry in Malaysia? The answer is no. Therefore we can conclude that pigs is a big part of the equation that causes such health related problem.
Ha ha , in reality your argument is just hot air. So much so for you being a 'true professional in the medical field and you are an expert in this area'. Your argument is nothing but trying to provide a situation which is far from reality. You need to wake up and smell the coffee. Where is your data?
Ha ha , until now you are in fear of providing a counter argument of where in your bible that allow for the consumption of pigs. Asking others to answer on your behalf is a sign that your ignorance and trying to run away. You are a coward ... are you? Ha ha
It is true , I am a big fan of you. I love it when you go bezerk and make a fool of yourself and christianity when I provoke you. You are now the leading man who runs down Christianity and the bible. Christians must be so proud of you. Not to mention your exposed lies .... ha ha
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sam1528 posted on 3-11-2013 01:40 PM
Ha ha , again you are trying to disengenously argue your way thru. Lets look at your arguments
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Ha ha , again you are trying to disengenously argue your way thru. Lets look at your arguments~ by intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
Still haha here and there ? Retard science iliterate like you had your face slapped repeatedly and yet still want to come back for more ? You are no different than a bitchy whore who enjoy masochism, don't you ?
(1) Cause of cancer is multifactorial. Therefore such combination that produce bacon causes the said cancer. I am surprised that you jumped on to such conclusion as your link states as follows :
However, experts urged caution over using the results of the trials on mice to predict the effect of phosphates on humans.
Professor Stephen Spiro, of the British Lung Foundation, said: 'The authors claim that in mice with lung cancer a diet high in phosphates increases lung cancer growth rates.
'While this may be a relevant observation, it has never been assessed in man. Further study would be required to ascertain any link in humans.'
How do you make your conclusion being :
See, it is not the pork itself that cause cancer but rather the additive in it.
Ha ha , you are making an assumption not data driven conclusion. Too bad , you have been caught out again.
We cannot run away from the fact that pork is part of the equation. Therefore the argument still stand. You need to understand the conclusion which I will quote :
In these 2 cohorts combined, frequent consumption of bacon was associated with an elevated risk of bladder cancer.
BTW , becon has been aroud since 1500BC. It is part of pork consumption. Whether it is processed or not , is it still a pork product? Yes or no?
~ by intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
Madrasah trained ustazy like you even know what is neoplasia or in layman term cancer or not ??? What is carcinogenic agents ?? Naaa...you must have never heard of the term before and let alone understand it.
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wkk5159 posted on 3-11-2013 09:07 AM
When i said that muslim like Zakir Naik and his intern sam1528 is spreading lies elsewhere is again ...
This is interesting :
It appears that pork from pigs that have been fed with food waste (or commonly known as garbage) taste better than being fed with Corn and Soy meal. Source , pg 76
Pigs are actually scavengers and they thrive in such environment per its diet of garbage. That is where you get all the health related issues and such is just an accident waiting to happen.
The Consumer Report in Jan 2013
Here are details from our tests:
- Yersinia enterocolitica was in 69 percent of the tested pork samples. It infects about 100,000 Americans a year, especially children. We found salmonella, staphylococcus aureus, or listeria monocytogenes, more common causes of foodborne illness, in 3 to 7 percent of samples. And 11 percent harbored enterococcus, which can indicate fecal contamination and can cause problems such as urinary-tract infections.
- Some of the bacteria we found were resistant to multiple drugs or classes of drugs. That’s worrisome, because if those bugs make you sick, your doctor may need to prescribe more powerful (and expensive) antibiotics.
- Ground pork was more likely than pork chops to harbor pathogens. That’s to be expected, since grinding meat provides another opportunity for contamination.
- Some antibiotic claims you’ll see on packaging are misleading. And a “no hormones added” claim might be true but is meaningless, because hormones aren’t allowed in pork production.
Ha ha , you are going to have a tough time.
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Why haha here and haha there you retard, your premature delirium are just short live like your ED dicky...
Just had damn problem with the broadband services (again, lousy services from muslim majority TM again )
1) Cause of cancer is multifactorial. Therefore such combination that produce bacon causes the said cancer. I am surprised that you jumped on to such conclusion as your link states as follows :
Food additive like phosphate salt and sodium nitrite are contributing factor in neoplasia formation and this had been proven in laboratory mammals. Of course no testing on human had been carried out as it is unethical, or perhaps we can test it on muslims who still pig headedly refuse to believe that these chemical salt are carcinogen.
Milk has been identified as contributing factor in breast cancer formation and does this mean that milk is also "haram' ?http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/257782.php
2)Taenia saginata in cattle
Of course there is but the difference here is that we muslims are prohibited to consume blood and rare meat. This already has already fulfill the required preparation. So how is it now? Again , the dietary laws plus its preparation shows that we muslims have been right all along. The CDC report
What is the incidence of cysticercosis in pork consuming population in countries whereby proper husbandary is practiced ? The answer: almost nil. Similarly, what is the incidence and prevalence of cysticercosis caused by T saginata in developing countries where proper animal husbandary is not in place, Indonesia for example, 90% muslims with population of almost 300 million, how's the incidence of zoonotic cysticercosis in cattle and man ?http://www.science.gov/topicpage ... +cysticercosis.html
(3) Didn't you read my post. I stated that it is decreasing but nevertheless still occuring. This is really funny , you pig eaters were so scared to consume pigs during the outbreak of the Nipah Virus. Anything equivalent happened to the cattle / mutton / lamb industry in Malaysia? The answer is no. Therefore we can conclude that pigs is a big part of the equation that causes such health related problem.
What ? Now Nipah virus, a virus which had been eradicated and has not seen the shadow of it for the past 10 years in Malaysia. Science iliterate like you sure don't know Nipah virus is just a layman term for a group of virus from Paramyxoviridae, paramyxovirus also cause Newcastle disease in poultry and does this make your chicken "haram" too ?
See refuting and exposing the lies of a fanatic science iliterate ustazy who try futilely to vilify the innocent pigs is just too damn easy.....
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sam1528 posted on 3-11-2013 03:50 PM
This is interesting :
It appears that pork from pigs that have been fed with food waste (or commo ...
This is interesting :
It appears that pork from pigs that have been fed with food waste (or commonly known as garbage) taste better than being fed with Corn and Soy meal. Source , pg 76
Pigs are actually scavengers and they thrive in such environment per its diet of garbage. That is where you get all the health related issues and such is just an accident waiting to happen.
The Consumer Report in Jan 2013
Here are details from our tests:
- Yersinia enterocolitica was in 69 percent of the tested pork samples. It infects about 100,000 Americans a year, especially children. We found salmonella, staphylococcus aureus, or listeria monocytogenes, more common causes of foodborne illness, in 3 to 7 percent of samples. And 11 percent harbored enterococcus, which can indicate fecal contamination and can cause problems such as urinary-tract infections.
- Some of the bacteria we found were resistant to multiple drugs or classes of drugs. That’s worrisome, because if those bugs make you sick, your doctor may need to prescribe more powerful (and expensive) antibiotics.
- Ground pork was more likely than pork chops to harbor pathogens. That’s to be expected, since grinding meat provides another opportunity for contamination.
- Some antibiotic claims you’ll see on packaging are misleading. And a “no hormones added” claim might be true but is meaningless, because hormones aren’t allowed in pork production.
Ha ha , you are going to have a tough time. ~ by intern of Zakir Naik sam1528
Hehehe, see who's going to have a tough time ? Do you even understand the germs you are quoting ? Salmonella,
Staphylococcus and Listeria. Are they Bacteria ? Virus ? Protozoa ? Lies after lies from science iliterate muslim like you is just so too easy to be exposed and dismantled !
Wild Pigs are omnivores just like jungle fowls are omnivores. Scavengers are just derogatory term assign to them by haters of swine like muslims. Since chicken are also scavengers, does this make chicken "haram" too.
In fact, any livestock if not confined properly can potentially become a scavenger, even cattle, a herbivore will be seen grazing and scavenging at rubbish dumping ground if not kept properly.
Back to the matter of pathogenic bacteria, bacteria like Salmonella sp, Staphylococcus aureus and Listeria monocytogen are not specific to pork alone, it is present in beef, mutton and poultry meat. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762206.html
Why so scare of pig ah ? You don't eat your own kind, is it ?
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wkk5159 posted on 3-11-2013 04:49 PM
Why haha here and haha there you retard, your premature delirium are just short live like your ED dicky...
Just had damn problem with the broadband services (again, lousy services from muslim majority TM again )
Ha ha, round and round goes 'wkk5159' but not answering the question. Now blaming the TM service? Hmm , there is Maxis but you are using TM. This shows that you are looking at all sorts of excuse to moan and whine.
Food additive like phosphate salt and sodium nitrite are contributing factor in neoplasia formation and this had been proven in laboratory mammals. Of course no testing on human had been carried out as it is unethical, or perhaps we can test it on muslims who still pig headedly refuse to believe that these chemical salt are carcinogen.
Milk has been identified as contributing factor in breast cancer formation and does this mean that milk is also "haram' ?http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/257782.php
Simple question and until now you cannot answer. Where is the scientific study that confirm such? You cannot provide. Therefore you are just making an assumption. However I have the support that consumption of bacon increases the risk of cancer. Is bacon from pigs? Yes or no? Is cancer multifactorial? Yes or no?
Milk a contributing factor in breast cancer formation? Hmm , the article states of breast cancer survival meaning milk should be avoided for breast cancer patients not milk is a contributor to breast cancer formation. Excerpt of the said article :
Patients who have suffered from breast cancer should avoid consuming high-fat dairy products in order to improve their long-term survival.
Ha ha , you understand what you read? So much so for a 'true professional in the medical science and an expert in this area' ... you don't even know the difference between a contributor of cancer and long term survival of cancer patients.
What is the incidence of cysticercosis in pork consuming population in countries whereby proper husbandary is practiced ? The answer: almost nil. Similarly, what is the incidence and prevalence of cysticercosis caused by T saginata in developing countries where proper animal husbandary is not in place, Indonesia for example, 90% muslims with population of almost 300 million, how's the incidence of zoonotic cysticercosis in cattle and man ?http://www.science.gov/topicpage ... +cysticercosis.html
Ha ha , almost nil? Where do you get this information? Again , arguing from your wet dreams? Oh , I see , in indonesia? Ok lets have a look a the said paper :
the potential role which dogs may play in the transmission of T. solium. Special attention is focused on Indonesia: taeniasis caused by T. asiatica in North Sumatra, taeniasis/cysticercosis of T. solium and taeniasis of T. saginata in Bali, and taeniasis/cysticercosis of T. solium in Papua (formerly Irian Jaya)
Ha ha , who keeps dogs? Muslims or non muslims? What is dorminant religion of the population of Bali and Papua? It appears that you don't even understand your own argument.
What ? Now Nipah virus, a virus which had been eradicated and has not seen the shadow of it for the past 10 years in Malaysia. Science iliterate like you sure don't know Nipah virus is just a layman term for a group of virus from Paramyxoviridae, paramyxovirus also cause Newcastle disease in poultry and does this make your chicken "haram" too ?
See refuting and exposing the lies of a fanatic science iliterate ustazy who try futilely to vilify the innocent pigs is just too damn easy.....
Ha ha , running from the argument again. The Nipah virus affected pigs or chicken or cattle? Does it matter if it have been so called eradicated? It happened , didn't it. What animal was affected? Why should we consume the animal which was suseptable to such? Only ' 'ahem - ahem' , less than intelligent people would do it. Why didn't you consume pigs during such outbreak? Scared that you are going to die? Aiyah ...
What did you refute apart from exposing your less that average comprehension? Ha ha .... told you that you would have a tough time ...
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wkk5159 posted on 3-11-2013 05:09 PM
Hehehe, see who's going to have a tough time ? Do you even understand the germs you are quoting ? Salmonella,
Staphylococcus and Listeria. Are they Bacteria ? Virus ? Protozoa ? Lies after lies from science iliterate muslim like you is just so too easy to be exposed and dismantled !
Wild Pigs are omnivores just like jungle fowls are omnivores. Scavengers are just derogatory term assign to them by haters of swine like muslims. Since chicken are also scavengers, does this make chicken "haram" too.
In fact, any livestock if not confined properly can potentially become a scavenger, even cattle, a herbivore will be seen grazing and scavenging at rubbish dumping ground if not kept properly.
Back to the matter of pathogenic bacteria, bacteria like Salmonella sp, Staphylococcus aureus and Listeria monocytogen are not specific to pork alone, it is present in beef, mutton and poultry meat. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762206.html
Why so scare of pig ah ? You don't eat your own kind, is it ?
Ha ha , does it matter whether it is virus or bacteria or like you stated protozoa?
Again data related studies have confirmed that
(1) pigs taste better when fed with garbage - this is just an accident waiting to happen
(2) again and again pigs have been confirmed to be vessels for health related issues
You have nothing but arguing that beef may also be a source of food borne illness. However for a muslim , eating blood and rare meat is prohibited. That effectively ensure the condition of healty cooking is met.
Chicken are scavengers but chicken do not eat garbage like pigs. You have a liking eating meat of garbage eaters. Can I now call you a 'garbage man'? Ha ha
Where are the biblical verses that states consumption of pork is allowed? So far you have been so scared to provide the so called verses. Gasp! Could it be that there are no such verses? Ha ha
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wkk5159 posted on 3-11-2013 11:02 PM
The differences between a honest science literare Samaritan and a deceptive science iliterate yet imbecilic ustazy sam1528 couldn't be any clearer.
Yawn....just take his first futile accusation that consumption of pork cause bladder cancer as appetizer. Here is the truth (but i doubt that Zakir Naik's intern can understand or rather chose to be another pseudodyslexic imbecile like we have encountered much too often with fanatic muslims)
My contention is that bladder cancer is caused by preservative cum additive in processed bacon, phosphate salt and not fresh pork itself. i don't need any desperate references like that madrasa trained terrorist candidate sam1528 because of my background as a personel in medical profession but just to shut up the imbecile i attach here few references from the reliable sites( definitely not Loonwatch.com).
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/d ... 1770110604/abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1687839
http://www.researchgate.net/publ ... rats?ev=pub_cit_inc
Similarly, cured meat of beef, mutton and chicken with phosphate salt also increase the risk of bladder cancer.
Any wonder why there is no university from islamic country in the Top 100 best university in the world ?
Ha ha , talking about universities , I am beginning to think that you are a product of a paid uni. You know the ones people like you go to as you are not competative enough to get a place in the public university. Am I right?
Your contention of bladder cancer caused by the preservative / additive does not have the support of any scientific finding. The link that you refer to address this issue as follows :
Professor Stephen Spiro, of the British Lung Foundation, said: 'The authors claim that in mice with lung cancer a diet high in phosphates increases lung cancer growth rates.
'While this may be a relevant observation, it has never been assessed in man. Further study would be required to ascertain any link in humans.'
How do you make such conclusion whereas a certain professor state the opposite? We all know that you are not an intelligent person (yeah lor , you cannot even differentiate between a contributor of cancer and long term survival of cancer patients). So what else? The question that you've never answered
- is the cause of cancer multifactorial? Yes or no?
- is bacon from pigs? Yes or No?
I am not even talking about fresh pork in which you are trying to divert the issue to. Pork has its own set of peoblems. Why are you trying to muddle th issue? The 3 links you provided are about observation in mice. However your earlier provided link states that such is inconclusive for humans. Do you know what is the meaning of inconclusive? I don't think you do , esle you won't be blabbering mindlessly.
Ha ha , you wish to talk about university ranking? The one you came from does not even have a ranking ... ha ha ... paid university where people like you who cannot compete into a public university go to.
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wkk5159 posted on 3-11-2013 11:23 PM
An madrasa trained imbecile who can't even differentiate the differences between bacteria, virus and protozoa still dare to post his fallacy here and suicidallly begin and end with signature prologue & epilogue of Ha ha Ha Ha.....
This pagan moon god worshipping retard don't even know what is Paramyxoviridae and still shamelessly( btw muslims where got dignity ? )argue with briliant medical personnel like me on the matter of Nipah virus. Guess he either can't stomach the truth that Newcastle disease in poultry also caused by Paramyxovirus or simply PD again. Really pity the retard that he has been slapped repeatedly by truth but still pig headedly charging back for more.....can't blame the obedient doggy for defending his master Zakir Naik though. Ah...on the matter of lecherous doggy ustazy 1528, don't know whether his master Zakir Naik send him to the veterinarian for annual Canine Distemper booster or not ? Canine Distemper of course is caused by Paramyxovirus too.
Cysticercosis anyone ??? Need me to elaborate somemore on it ? Naa.....guess i have to spare that poor doggy ustazy some gluteous muscle for his next Canine Distemper vaccination appointment at the vet.
Ha ha , you are a master of answering while not answering and running away.
The issue here is that the Nipah Virus affected pigs or chicken or cattle? Can you now show me in the history of this country where such disease affect the animal industry as bad as the Nipah Virus? You can't. That is why your obsession to talk about 'bacteria' lah , 'virus' lah , 'protozoa' lah in an effort to run from the issue. Now its the Newcastle disease which pose minimal health hazard in comparison to the Nipah Virus which high infectivity and high mortality. What is the vessel for the Nipah Virus? Pigs or cattle or chicken?
Ha ha , why are you going in circles chasing your own backside. You should have consumed pigs during the Nipah Virus outbreak. Scared to die issit?
Ha ha , you have lost and lost badly. You are again moaning and whining.
Ha ha , Allah the moon God again? Truly you have no shame with your blatant lies. Too bad , you've been exposed.
Where are the biblical verses that allow the consumption of pigs? None right. Why are you going against your bible? Oh yeah , when cornered you are now a half atheist.
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Anybody who has seen a chicken on the field knows that chicken virtually eat anything, if the gabbage is an organic matter and make available to the chicken, the chicken will unquestionably eat the gabbage.
This of course apply to cattle as well, it is not a rare scene to see cattle roaming into the rubbish dumping ground to graze if opporturnity arise.
Like i said before, there is only two animals in the world which are filthier than a pig and that two animals are Zakir Naik and his intern sam1528 who tiredlessly slandering the innocent pigs. This of course apply to whoever is still believing in this quranic fallacy !
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