the difference between muslim convert and christian convert

hujanhijau

after seeing debmey persistent effort posting stories of ex-muslim, i started searching for some more stories and i notice something quite interesting..

christian convert (from any beliefs convert to christianity) are mostly commoners and people in certain dillema regarding issues such as lifestyle, poverty, restriction etc.

while muslim convert (from any beliefs convert to islam) are mix of people with substantial public status and scientists.

you can just google 'scientist convert to islam/christianity' for a quick test

why is that? care to comment?

gunblade712

coz those who reverts back to Islam (there is no such thing as a "convert to Islam" , pm me if you want an explanations.) are those who think with their brains and studied the Quran without a slightest feeling of biased in their heart.

those who converts to Christians thinks with their earthly lust, thinking that Christian allowed sosial freedom without them looking and studying the Bible themselves.

hujanhijau

Originally posted by gunblade712 at 16-2-2009 04:07 PM
coz those who reverts back to Islam (there is no such thing as a "convert to Islam" , pm me if you want an explanations.) are those who think with their brains and studied the Quran without a sli ...

i think i know what you mean...
Gary Miller said something similar once, right?

gunblade712

I think so.

heard it from both Yusuf Estes and Sheikh Faiz.

cabang

in malaysia, normally coz by our country rules

hujanhijau

wheres debmey by the way..

hujanhijau

debmey, dont you want to have fun here?

kinki

anyway, do we need scientific study on Islam? becos they are so particulars about Islam......tapi kalau hati dah takde hidayah, buat la mcmana pon.....let them be. tanggungjawab kita just to convey the message..that's what left from our beloved Prophet....

gunblade712

since when did our country rule stated that you have to become a Muslim?

hujanhijau

if Malaysia really have such rule, there wont be any christians or hindus in Malaysia..

get your facts right bro

Debmey

islam converts are enticed with special rights and priviledges and the right to own 4 wives.
Chrsitian converts face persecution by malaysian authorities and muslim relatives and frens.

Islam converts are not allowed to leave islam after they joined it.
Christian converts are free to continue or leave the religion, no coercion.

gunblade712

every religion gave out their own "rights", debmey..

what you say is based in Malaysia's law only, which, applied to Malays..

If Christian converts are free to continue or leave the religion, then you are not following your own Bible. Deuteronomy clearly says that you must persecute those who leave the religion.

If you say that the rule is abolished, then please show me a verse in the later books of the bible that relinquished the law.

If not, the Law must be hold... which you Christians failed to do.

hujanhijau

congratulations, you finally have the gut to post here!

now, take one more step and read why those scientist embraced islam, you love reading articles about converts right..
or do you want me to post some here?

kinki

Originally posted by hujanhijau at 10-3-2009 15:58
congratulations, you finally have the gut to post here!

now, take one more step and read why those scientist embraced islam, you love reading articles about converts right..
or do you want ...

post le.......leh wa tumpang sekaki

13Friday

Most scientists think they can make deals after become Muslims
in rich countries..

ussopp

wow......



dont be jelous....

why?  non muslim countries are not rich enough?

if i m not mistaken, here is always an arena to propagate that most muslim countries are poor and western one are rich....

so according to your post, they dont support their own scientist?....ah ridiculuous....

gunblade712

taht's all?

by all means, elaborate..

hujanhijau

Originally posted by 13Friday at 10-3-2009 16:09
Most scientists think they can make deals after become Muslims
in rich countries..

really? these guys?

A German Physician and His Wife
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSQXzecv8

Czech and European Scientists
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bUozJS-alvE

Dr.Webber from England
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTpqdEvk1Y

Debmey

What about the scientists that are Christians? Why don't you believe in all those scientists?

Here's an Arabic doctor who left islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up3yuQDAWKQ

hujanhijau

i never said there wasnt one.
the only thing i claimed is that theres MORE scientist chose islam rather than christianity

which side would you put your trust on, a group of 100 scientist or a group of 10 scientist? would you believe a majority or a minority?